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On 29.1.2022 at 10:18 PM, Chuck Nessa said:

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Strange, I certainly know all the musicians involved and some of them I saw live also, but about a Dick Griffin, who is obviously the leader, I haven´t heard ever. Maybe he is not so well known in Europe ? 

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I mostly know him through his work with Kirk and with Earland. He is not the biggest name but a very good player.

I'm listening to him right now here:

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Two more Dick Griffin dates:

-The Eight Wonder- : Dick Griffin Septet : Dick Griffin (tb) Sam Rivers (ts,sop,fl) Ron Burton (p) Warren
Smith (vib,perc) Cecil McBee (b) Freddie Waits (d) Leopoldo F. Fleming (cga,bells,perc)
New York, early 1974
Eight wonder                           Strata-East SES-1974/7
It could be                                   -
Girl, I really love you so               -
Jakubu's dance                          -
Flying back home                       -
Come be with me                       -
Note : Entire session also on Sugar Hill SH261 and Strata-East (Jap)JC7508.


-Now is the time- : Dick Griffin (tb) Clifford Jordan (ts) Bill Saxton (ts,sop) Don Smith (fl,p) Hubert
Eaves (p) Calvin Hill (b) Billy Hart, Freddie Waits (d) Lawrence Killian (perc,cga)
New York, c. 1975
Now is the time              Trident TRS504
Madrid                               -
Multiphonic blues              -
Waltz my son                    -
The queen                        -
Peaceful thinking             -

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the only one of those I have is the Strata-East though I have seen the other two online (not in person). The Strata-East is great.

There's an incredible oral history of Mr. Griffin in the third volume of William Parker's Conversations book on RogueArt. I transcribed the interviews and it was quite an intense process! He has led a fascinating life.

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I found the Trident LP somewhere (certainly not a collector-ish place) back in the day and snapped it up on the strength of the Strat-East. It too is quite tasty.

The Ruby LP was released on CD along with a few cuts from the Trident on a Ruby CD. I thought I had it, but it's misfiled if I do.

Dick Griffin is not the greatest trombonist ever, but he always made really good records, when he did. My kind of musician, always true.

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17 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Dick Griffin is not the greatest trombonist ever, but he always made really good records, when he did. My kind of musician, always true.

yep, I agree with this assessment.

the same volume of Conversations also has a fascinating interview with Bill Lowe, who I didn't realize lived in London and played with the South African contingent at the end of the '60s. 

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If you care, this is a stereo version of

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The stereo version sounds great, but omits "Casey Stew" and shortens "King Porter Stomp" by about 2 minutes. These edits undoubtedly were made to allow for the wider stereo grooves. I have made a cdr to include all the material.

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17 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said:

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If you care, this is a stereo version of

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The stereo version sounds great, but omits "Casey Stew" and shortens "King Porter Stomp" by about 2 minutes. These edits undoubtedly were made to allow for the wider stereo grooves. I have made a cdr to include all the material.

Have the Fresh Sound reissue on vinyl. Didn't know about the missing 2 minutes on vinyl. There are no track durations listed on the Item.

Thanks for the Info.

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Now spinning an LP that just arrived in the mail:

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Ismael Rivera con Kako y Su Orquesta - Lo Ultimo en La Avenida (Tico, 1971)
Craft 180-gram reissue 

Pre-ordered from Dusty, so it's hot off the press.  :)  
 

 

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Cedar Walton - SPECTRUM, Prestige PRST-7591, 1968. A very enjoyable Blue Note-influenced hard bop. I believe this is his first album under his name. I wonder why Walton never received Blue Note bona fides for the leader session. It's just that it may have been too late for him, because Lyon and Wolff were selling the company. I like the cover; the hand of Reid Miles was leading Don Schlitten's.

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4 minutes ago, Dmitry said:

Cedar Walton - SPECTRUM, Prestige PRST-7591, 1968. A very enjoyable Blue Note-influenced hard bop. I believe this is his first album under his name. I wonder why Walton never received Blue Note bona fides for the leader session. It's just that it may have been too late for him, because Lyon and Wolff were selling the company. I like the cover; the hand of Reid Miles was leading Don Schlitten's.

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Yes, this is a fine album. He had almost ten years s a sideman behind him at this point. I am trying to imagine how it would have sounded if it had been recorded at the RvG studio. 

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8 minutes ago, Daniel A said:

Yes, this is a fine album. He had almost ten years s a sideman behind him at this point. I am trying to imagine how it would have sounded if it had been recorded at the RvG studio. 

This predates it slightly (1967):

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1 hour ago, Daniel A said:

Yes, this is a fine album. He had almost ten years s a sideman behind him at this point. I am trying to imagine how it would have sounded if it had been recorded at the RvG studio. 

While listening, I remarked to myself that it sounded similar to RVG. Maybe it was the material itself that led me to believe that, because it's very BN-like, with similar dynamics and drive, as if it were produced by Alfred Lyon. The album is on the shorter side, even by the Prestige standards, clocking at under 35 minutes. I wouldn't be surprised if more tracks were recorded, but not released. 

1 hour ago, T.D. said:

This predates it slightly (1967):

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You sir, are correct!

What a stupid cover, in my opinion.

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1 hour ago, Dmitry said:

What a stupid cover, in my opinion.

"Cedar" means a kind of wood --->  example: Lebanonzeder tree.

So the cover art  combines his name with the  kind of wood. IMO not stupid

;-]]

 

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5 hours ago, jazzcorner said:

"Cedar" means a kind of wood --->  example: Lebanonzeder tree.

So the cover art  combines his name with the  kind of wood. IMO not stupid

;-]]

 

I know what cedar is. That's why I think it's a stupid cover, and a lazy design.

Do you think a sheet of plywood is sufficient to reflect on what's inside this record sleeve? I'd imagine working with something like these -

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6 hours ago, Dmitry said:

I know what cedar is. That's why I think it's a stupid cover, and a lazy design.

Do you think a sheet of plywood is sufficient to reflect on what's inside this record sleeve? I'd imagine working with something like these -

 

Well tastes are different and I have seen the connection immediately.  Coverart is always a part of the production costs. Some labels invest more and some not. I have seen here worse examples without any connection to the music inside.

My favorite is David Stone Martin

 

Now on the turntable

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52 minutes ago, jazzcorner said:

Well tastes are different and I have seen the connection immediately.  Coverart is always a part of the production costs. Some labels invest more and some not. I have seen here worse examples without any connection to the music inside.

The Cedar! cover is amusing and it's a good record.

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