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Everything posted by clifford_thornton
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I completely agree. GOLDMINE lists a mono copy of Jackie McLean Destination Out at all of $30 so we can conclude that they're way off. Yeah but Brandon, you know you were glad that Love Garden used it!
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I dunno, I waaaay prefer "Ghetto Music" over "Black Rhythm Happening." The former is harder, and that transition from the plaintive folk melody to the ensemble playing on "The Rain" kills me every time. $.02 anyway.
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Not that it's really 'jazz' per se, but all those turntables and laptop computers in modern 'improv' really annoy the shit out of me... ugh! I can imagine Maneri and Cecil would suck, if only 'cos Mat Maneri sucks. Last time I saw him he just sat on stage with a Heineken and a ciggie while Rob Brown and Whit Dickey went at it... what a poser.
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Which LP do you play the most often?
clifford_thornton replied to mikeweil's topic in The Vinyl Frontier
I played the crap out of "Change of the Century" (Ornette) and "Four for Trane" (Shepp)... the classics always get jammed the most. -
I've always had a soft spot for Grachan Moncur III, but Peter & Pepi Lemer are pretty great too... Of course, we can't forget the mysterious one-named percussionists: Robidoo Groentje (pronounced "Grain-chee") Djibrill Sahumba (AKA Raleigh Sahumba, but Sahumba for short) Adeyeme and: Ostaine Blue Warner (another mysterious percussionist)
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While Hutcherson is the obvious choice (his importance in the instrument's history) and Dickerson is a great player as well, I picked Teddy Charles. He's a great bandleader and arranger, and his quirky phrasing has more warmth than Walt's. He's an unsung hero of the instrument whose recordings with the PJQ, the Tentet and his "Jazz in the Garden" should not be missed. Whither Karl Berger? His first recording, albeit on piano, was in '64 I believe, and his dates with Don Cherry and as a leader for ESP and Milestone are great advances in the freebop tradition. Nice to see mention of Naughton and Hoggard, two very interesting players of the '70s. OTIC on... Al Francis and Earl Griffiths each made scant recordings as sidemen, but showed great direction on the vibes early in the decade. Lest we forget the great showing of Charles Moffett on the vibes for his own Savoy date ('68)? He's not often thought of as a vibist, but he was really something.
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Jazz on 8-track--did you ever have any?
clifford_thornton replied to ghost of miles's topic in Audio Talk
A buddy of mine has the Chris McGregor "Brotherhood of Breath" on Neon 8-track. Needless to say, it hurts my feelings... -
Do you buy CD duplicates of your LPs?
clifford_thornton replied to Leeway's topic in The Vinyl Frontier
Considering that an "EX" copy of that record (in Stereo, mind you) went for around $150 on eBay recently, I'd say $25 is reasonable if it's not too marked up. I'm all for vinyl, and usually buy LPs as 'upgrades' from CDs. But then I get to work and find I have nothing to listen to... -
Reece does a lot of Cherry-esque fluffs and things like that here; it's an odd date, especially considering the instrumentation. All of his BNs are excellent...
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Schweizer is amazing and rather underrated in the continuum of free European pianists. For some of her earlier recordings, I recommend the trio with Pierre Favre and Peter Kowald, "Santana" (on a private LP as well as an FMP reissue), the Favre quartet on Wergo (which adds Evan Parker on his usual axes), and any of FMP LPs of the 70s -- especially those involving the powerhouse saxophonist Rudiger Carl (sort of in between Brotzmann and Parker on tenor). Hopefully the Atavistic UMS-FMP reissue series will hit some of these superb titles.
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Here are the titles for the Roling series... I'll post the link when it's all done. Albert Ayler "Spirits" (unissued?) Carla Bley-Mike Mantler "Jazz Realities" Paul Bley "Touching" Paul Bley "Blood" Dollar Brand "Anatomy of a South African Village" Marion Brown "Juba-Lee" Ted Curson "Urge" Ted Curson-Bill Barron "Tears for Dolphy" Jazz Composers' Orchestra "Communication" Rod Levitt "Dynamic Sound Patterns" (unissued?) New York Art Quartet "Mohawk" New York Contemporary Five "Consequences" Dewey Redman "Look for the Black Star" George Russell "The Outer View" Archie Shepp-John Tchicai "Rufus" Cecil Taylor "Nefertiti, the Beautiful One Has Come" Any additons/corrections?
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What music besides jazz do you listen to?
clifford_thornton replied to AfricaBrass's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Well, as I think I've said somewhere else, Jazz/free music (and 'modern classical')saved me from the boredom that I was experiencing with (even progressive) rock... but now, my ears are back on open to a lot of rock... classic stuff like the Byrds, Neil Young, early Dead, etc. Also bought back all that SY, some of the Minutemen and the like and am enjoying it heartily once again. SY were great (can't say I like the newer stuff), and Thurston's improvised stuff isn't all that bad either. Hmm, what else -- early acoustic blues, bohemian whi'boy acoustic blues (Takoma Records), Brigitte Fontaine and the Daniel Vallencien/Saravah crew, Canterbury prog, some Krautrock, Parson Sound/Trad Gras och Stenar, generally anything really skronky gets me goin'. I've actually been listening to less jazz lately, and I know when I go back to it, my ears will be expanded once again. -
When the disc is cut so the needle sticks in the groove, creating a loop. I don't remember that on EOTH, though. Sometimes it can be an unintentional pressing defect, too.
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Well, I can post the list (numbers, anyway) when I have access to my home computer. However, we're still waiting on good scans of the Dewey Redman and Rod Levitt LPs before we post the pictorial discography online with, hopefully, a little more correct info on Ms. Roling and the whole bit. Any additions would, of course, be much appreciated. C
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Is this the same material as the "Cloudburst" LP that Murphy cut in the early 80s, or entirely different? Thanks.
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Isn't there a second volume of "New Dance!" with the same personnel and recording date? I'd love to hear it...
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63... he's just a kid! Let's hope he has many more birthdays to come.
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ebay madness re: vinyl
clifford_thornton replied to slide_advantage_redoux's topic in The Vinyl Frontier
Of course, those wax paper sleeves weren't too durable; hence, the introduction of paper sleeves. Actually, $200 isn't unreasonable for a nice copy of that Miles title. But look at the other auctions: an annihilated copy of the Rocky Boyd on Jazztime. I'd be afraid to see what a NM copy would do... -
Well... all the Friedman-Zoller dates from the mid-60s are classic and fairly free at times. I seem to recall one on Prestige, one on Riverside, and one on Emarcy under Zoller's name. Don't know if the latter is on CD, but the other two are. C
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Yep, AMG is out to lunch most of the time... quite a few musicians get the shaft or aren't even mentioned. And I also like their attempts to draw connections between musicians, such as Steve Lacy being a "follower" of Evan Parker (at least this one was up at some point). I do like Eugene Chadbourne's reviews, though...
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brownie-- Thanks for the info on Marte Roling and Fontana... a friend and I are working on a pictorial discography of her covers, but we know little about her (she's still working as an artist, but no contact info has been found). Cheers, C
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Schweizer's sick! Her sides for FMP and Wergo (and of course the PIP) are sooo heavy... Others: flutist/alto saxophonist Becky Friend (an associate of Sunny Murray and Alan Silva), multi-instrumentalist Zusaan/Kali Fasteau (-Garrett), of the Sea Ensemble and other aggregations. Karen Borca (referred to as "Helen" in an earlier post) is/was a wonderful bassoonist in Jimmy Lyons' bands. C
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I don't think "cherryco" has more than 20 Lacy LPs (have to look when I get home, he he) but yeah, the aforementioned "Sortie," "NY Capers and Quirks" and "School Days are a few of my favorites. I don't really like Irene Aebi's vocals, and I think I ended up parting with a number of Aebi-Lacy sides, but the small group trio/quartet/sextet stuff from the late 60s-early 70s I find most interesting (as he was still developing his thing). But I do like the trio of Lacy-Betsch-Avenel too; I was lukewarm until seeing them live -- a great working band if there ever was one. Lacy and Waldron made a great pair: the recent 4CD set on HatHut of their two duo LPs is astounding. The Lacy group plus Waldron also made a bitchin' side for America records in France, and a slightly pared down aggregation turned out "Journey without End" on Japanese Victor -- both of these are excellent. Finally, his solo LP on Saravah, "Lapis," is a classically warped side of Lacy let loose with the tape machines in a Paris studio. Fun stuff. He's a really individual voice, who's still "finding a way to the other side" in the music. Long may he live and create. C