clifford_thornton

I do like those Cadentia Nova Danica records quite a bit, but they aren't really anything like his small-group '60s recordings. Haven't heard much from the 80s or later, though I did see him in a group with Paul Smoker and Adam Lane that was one of the best jazz shows I've ever seen.

Sign me up... if it's anything like Side 1 of "Patty Waters Sings," I'm down. I like that creepy, low-key piano & vocals material just as much as the out stuff. And yes, she was/is a _gorgeous_ lady, as the album cover attests to (nude or not).

RIP A very unique composer and musician, to whom not enough attention is paid.

This is a drag; he always had such a great sound, and though I never met him, mutual friends sing his praises as a beautiful cat. He will be missed, but his contribution to that great saxophone section in the sky will be very strong indeed. RIP

$15-20 or so... Nothing Is, is probably the strongest of the three, though Heliocentric 1 has some nice moments. Vol. 2 kinda blows.

Every America is worth getting. They are all good. I like the Emergency record quite a bit -- Boulou Ferre takes it Out! Does anybody know whether the CDs will include extra tracks?

Tears for Dolphy was recorded in '64, Urge in '66. Both were released in '66, the former reissued by Arista-Freedom in the '70s. Just to clarify.

I finally picked up "Urge," on Fontana (as the "Tears for Dolphy") and it's way more 'out' than I expected. Booker Ervin is getting into Sam Rivers territory, and it's heavy. For some reason, I always feared the Futura was boring... but now that I know it's worth seeking...

The plates were switched on the second pressing of the LP, so that track one (A) is on side B and vice versa (i.e., deadwax lists ESPS-1044-B for the side-long A side piece). I believe that they took the CD from a second pressing of the LP and mis-tracked it accordingly. The Get Back LP reish also follows suit in this error.

I haven't engaged his more recent material as much as the raw, early stuff... The Aristas should be Mosaic'ed; I sold mine years ago and wouldn't mind just having it all at the press of a button (this is the digital-age, alter ego CT talking). Those duets with Max Roach are pretty nice, particularly the Hat Hut set.

I used to have that one on LP and didn't like it much, but just was handed the new 2CD set with extra tracks and am enjoying it quite a bit now. Funny how time and distance change one's opinion.

That's an interesting comparison, Late, though I'd almost want to think of someone like Ayler as the true "Art Informel" of jazz. After all, Dubuffet could really paint just like Ayler and Cherry could play bebop in the league of Bird and Miles. Very cool observation -- thanks!

Strangely, I've seen Lex/NY USA combinations on more than one occasion.

I like that one a lot, too. Manuel Villaroel is the pianist; he's on a few other Palms and has his own record on Futura -- also great.

Not only is Epic home to Good Charlotte, but also Curtis Fuller and Tubby Hayes. Put that one in yer pipe and smoke it!

Brownie, If you run into Tusques again soon and he's interested in doing interviews with someone in the states, I'd love to do it. I write for AAJ and Paris Transatlantic. PM me if you can! Regards, Clifford

Ubu, If you're into Lowe, you should pick up "Duo Exchange" with Rashied Ali if you haven't already done so. Knitting Factory reissued it on CD, and it's about as prime as one can get for tenor-drums duets. "Black Beings" is pretty good too, but not up to this level.

Other than the MPS dates, I heard there were a couple of more 'free' Barney sessions -- one on Vogue with Joachim Kuhn, Karl Berger, J-F Jenny-Clarke and Aldo Romano, and another on Moloudji with I think Francois Tusques. Brownie, do you know these? CT

You know, it's not 'unheralded' but I feel that I know far more people that have 'seen' the Art Taylor book (Notes and Tones) than actually read it. Great stuff, if you haven't picked through it.

Openian, right, I was trying to remember the name of the label. 'Diversions' is the other one that my buddy has. Interesting character, and with such short, catchy tracks it's no wonder he got radio play. Kind of like the UK answer to "The Cry" (Simmons-Lasha), that Open Music.

Wow, that's some rare shit. Never seen/heard of it before... Must Find, Must Find :rsmile: Have you heard that Bob Downes record, "Open Music"? Very nice flute-bass-drums date w/ Barry Guy. I remember it being something I knew I'd listen to a ton... if I could locate a copy.

Ebay is always amusing; I avoid it anymore... That Three Sounds is pretty uncommon, but really, if you have one you have them all. I don't understand why that Hutch broke the bank though -- I mean, a mono copy is very hard to find, but a Stereo Liberty? I think I paid about $10! The comedy quotient never ends!

The thing is that riders in the back of the pack use EPO, etc. just to hang on in the race. It's not a drug that makes you 'win', but helps you survive a stage race. I had friends in cycling who used to race in Europe, and even the single-day events one felt the need to use stuff just to stay in the pack. Lance is using shit, as is the peloton -- it's one of the not-so-secrets of the cycling world. I hope JU wins it this time around. Armstrong needs to go back to the ranch with Sheryl Crow and chill out for a while!

"Elements" came out on a 2-CD FMP set a few years ago along with other performances from that concert, issued on other LPs as "Cousscouss de la Mauresque" and "The End". I think it's still in print. Moondoc: dig "We Don't", a duo with Denis Charles on Eremite. Eremite is not always together with their orders in my experience, nor Forced Exposure. I don't know what they're smoking in Cambridge, but it affects their reliability for sure!

Probably one of the best avant-garde piano trio records EVER.