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I deleted the album "Drinka Lita Roza Day" from the Ronnie Ross Jazz Discography because I thought it unlikely that it would be jazz, although I've never heard it. It came up on eBay - picture below - and looked as though it just might include some jazz. Too expensive for me and it has been sold now. This is a very long shot I know but is anyone familiar with it - heard it or owns it perhaps? Is it a jazz record?

← Hmm... I just returned here to see whether or not track #2 had been identified yet. I've read through the whole thread again, but I don't see where the song has been identified. It was pointed out that Aldo Romano and Paulo Fresu were playing on it, but the album and the leader are as yet unidentified, and although several people thought the tune was "non dimenticar", John stated that neither the song nor the album was "non dimenticar". I just realized that I have a Nat Cole version of "non dimenticar", just played it, and that IS the melody Fresu plays. Did I overlook something? Is there an alternate title for that song? By the way, this one track made the whole BFT worthwhile for me. I love it. I've rarely listened to the Cole version, but this instrumental version has me convinced I need to start playing this tune myself. ← I knew it! Does the tune have more than one title then? All will soon be revealed I hope. The leader is Aldo Romano I should think.

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Hoping for another participant shortly, from Japan. Will that be a first? I'm sure he'll get a big welcome if he does decide to join in the fun, won't he? Big Kenny Wheeler fan.

Email sent - rarin' t' go.

Oh - and the arco bass of Paul Chambers is very distinctive too. He does not play the higher notes so much as some bass players when soloing I would say, and gets a really big sound. Eddie Gomez springs to mind for this - frenetic is the word perhaps. And of course you can sometimes recognise the voices from the sing-along devotees, like EG. But you don't want to listen to that. The trick is to ignore it if you can.

Following in the steps of Sidewinder (If indeed sidewinders take steps!). In a BFT a while ago I easily identified Ron Carter just from the way he plays the notes somehow, the resonance, the style of plucking the strings - it's not easy to put into words but you know it when you hear it. This is not a lot of help I know. He is about the only one that I think I can usually identify. I find drummers every bit as difficult if not more so.

Listening to the album "Curtis Fuller's Jazztet with Benny Golson", the tune "Wheatleigh Hall", by Dizzy Gillespie, is the same tune as "Blues by Five" which is variously credited to Budd Johnson, Miles Davis and Red Garland - maybe more. Is this duplication is widely known? Can anyone tell me who is the true composer?

So we should already have a sign-up thread for BFT27? - ten days ago!

And here is the newest additon to our picture library, obtained from a contact "elsewhere".

Twenty one today! That's all on the list I am still looking for now. Here it is:- (moved to later post August 10 2005)

After a lot of research I've established that "non dimenticar" means "don't forget" in Italian. I'm sure everybody else already knew that but I didn't. The trouble is the tune sounds so much like it to me - I remember it from when Nat King Cole had it as a hit I think - go back that far!. I wonder if it has changed it's name into the English version somewhere along the line. Will have to wait until "answers" to find out I know. This is really puzzling me - nothing new!

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tooter, I didn't mean to give the impression that I wasn't interested in guesses. I just expect that there will be some people who won't have heard any of these before, and I don't want them to be discouraged from giving their thoughts, even if they aren't able to guess. ← Yes, I see what you mean. Quite a number of times this has been mentioned, for the same reason mostly I guess. I am not discouraged by not knowing much though, if anything, so maybe that applies to others too. Just as well to mention it though.

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Now read previous comments. I wasn't first to guess Non Dimenticar but I am first with the personnel, if right! Don't knock the guessing, John - it's only one aspect of the BFT entertainment but I think it's an important one. Like/don't like (and shades in between), guesses, erudite comments - each to his own - anything goes.

Almost all of BFT26 is well outside my usual listening but I did find it a stimulating program. Plenty of interest here. 1. This gets off to a shocking start! The ensuing music has me wondering how much of it is arranged and written out, if any. There’s a sort of drone going on that sounds like a didgeridoo sometimes which is quite intriguing as background – contra bass clarinet? Exciting music, lots of things going on, but I can’t even begin to imagine who is playing or what it is. 2. This is one I just might know – Non Dimenticar from the album of the same name by Aldo Romano – Paolo Fresu, Furio di Castri and Franco D’Andrea (all from memory and I haven’t even got the album!). I do hope this is right because it’s the only one I can guess about. 3. Hypnotic – music for snakes? Foot tapping definitely out but slithering around is in order. 4. Didn’t like this one particularly – clarinet doesn’t have a very good sound to me but the interplay bears repeated listening. 5. No idea of who this might be either – Dolphy? March. The use of voices for just a brief section seems rather strange – I can’t understand why it was thought appropriate to introduce this change to the otherwise entirely instrumental performance. Like a yellow spot on a picture composed of reds. This is the view of a newcomer to this kind of music. I like the baritone sound. Is it a xylophone there? I found this an engrossing performance. 6. Is it jazz? Can’t guess at the language. Got power. I am eager to know what this is in due course. 7. Strange, uncomfortable mixture, but dramatic. No clue. 8. Thin clarinet sounds. I was reminded of my clarinet lessons at school but this is to insult the players extremely. Couldn’t get into this somehow. Needless to say… 9. Haven’t a clue what this is either – I avoid this kind of music like the plague. It might I suppose be Mingus or Haden, that sort of stuff. But could that be Pepper Adams on baritone? Long shot. He is a favourite baritonist, at least most of what he did. Not this though. 10. Oliver Nelson? Sounds like the sort of thing he encompasses. Makes me feel cheerful, the trad bits. Clarinet again, better timbre. 11. Eastern sounding music – something different, develops well. No clue as to who or what. There seems to be a tendency towards advocating this as the ideal length BFT – just one disc – and I certainly prefer it as the norm anyway. Good balance here between long and short tracks gives plenty to engage and yet good variety too. It can be done. I have not looked at any previous comments or done any research – this ought to be the norm too I think, at least for initial comments. Thanks for a very well composed BFT, John.

New picture obtained - 75/2 in the Ronnie Ross Jazz Discography - and this one does reduce the total yet to be found. Now only twenty two!

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So we've got Fran-Dance composed by Miles and Put Your Little Foot Right Out composed by Larry Spier - same tune.

It is! Another success! Thanks a lot Mike. I compared not only the main theme but also the bridge to make sure. Although the notation as played is somewhat different on the two versions ("Jazz Track" is the Miles track I was using), there can be no mistaking the bridge as being the same. AMG lists just twenty four versions and all of those by Miles.

Did it work, Mike? Surely you know it. You're just keeping me in suspense. BTW, anyone who would like to have the whole concert as broadcast plus another from Glasgow from a year earlier can download them from "dimeadozen" - it's still there and should be available for a while yet - few days maybe.

Please thank His Majesty for trying, although it is a bit of a let-down!

After spectacular success with the Stan Getz tune on another thread, here is a second one which has been bothering me. Ray Brown's trio, made up of Benny Green and Gregory Hutchinson, were in Edinburgh, Scotland, probably in 1997. They played a marvellous concert which I recorded from the radio. One of the tunes was not named however and I have been puzzled ever since as to what it is. It sounds like a traditional tune and lots of people say they know it. But so far nobody has been able to name it. There is a sample of just one chorus of the tune on my website - the address is http://rodneypledge.tripod.com/ - please paste this into your browser to go there and click on the link. Let me know if there is any problem hearing the sample. Thanks for trying anyway.

After this outstanding success, I'm having another go. See new thread on Ray Brown tune.