Hey gang. I am a long-time lurker on this site. It's great. I am also one of the misguided that participated in recordsforall's auction.
Long-time ebay buyer. I've bought hundreds of pieces of vinyl on Ebay over the past 7 or so years and admittedly paid for an education along the way. Prior to this fiasco my only truly bad experiences on Ebay, other than overpaying for LPs, were receiving a few overgraded records and getting sucked into the occasional bidding frenzy. I saw recordsforall's feedback rating and the paypal buyer protection plan offered on the auctions and the relatively low-range prices and jumped in on a few records. I've been in touch with some of the other "winners" in the auction.
Wanted to second some of the thoughts shared above. Paypal's inability to recover funds from recordsforall's account is separate and apart from their obligation to "insure" funds stolen in fraud. Their buyer protection program statement (on their site though not readily upfront) as of January 17, 2007 listed the qualifications for a transaction that would be covered. It is all geared into the status of the seller AT THE TIME THE AUCTION WAS LISTED and is based on the seller's feedback rating and certain other quantitative stuff. If buyer protection was available on recordsforall's items his auctions listings would say so -- and they did. Not a lot of wiggle room here for paypal.
I knew Diego Padovese was going to send me a package o' crap in order to show paypal a mailing receipt as proof that he sent me the LPs. I, for one, had the package sent to my law firm, had the delivery witnessed and then videotaped the package being opened to reveal, in my case, a motown 45 rpm. I've offered the videotape to paypal, but they have not been interested thus far. Oh well. I intend to stay on paypal by all means available to make sure they honor the insurance program they have set up and on which they market their services. I've never seen a more easily provable case of fraud -- so if they aren't going to pay on these auctions, not sure when they will.
In the meantime, I am watching the following auction with keen interests. Some eerie similarities between recordsforall's auction and this one -- recent Ebay membership, feedback built up on 45 rpm sales, sudden change from paypal payment accepted to international money orders only, no hisotry of blue notes to sudden availability of high-end, top quality stuff, etc.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LEE-MORGAN-Lee-Way-LP-...1QQcmdZViewItem
In the meantime, thanks to the long standing members of this site. I've learned a ton from reading through the posts. Hope to be a participant going forward.
B