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Thanks, that sounds very plausible.

Thanks mhatta. Makes sense.

Reviving this thread 13-15 years later. I was very surprised to learn that Renaud produced not only a Duke Jordan trio session, but also one by Al Haig with Bill Crow and Lee Abrams, recorded the same day as the Pettiford session, March 13, 1954. An oddity about this session is that eight tracks were issued on Swing--and slightly later Vogue and Period, and quite a bit later Prestige. And another eight tracks were originally issued on 10 inch LP Esoteric ESJ-7. Many decades later Fresh Sounds issued the Esoteric tracks with the same cover art and five more that weren't on the 10 inch LP. I haven't found any discussion about why the complete session wasn't issued on Swing; how and why a deal was made to transfer more than half the tracks to Esoteric.

Thanks! Valuable lesson that I have to pay closer attention when checking discogs whether it's showing info about an LP or CD.

I came across a Dexter recording of "All the Things You Are" that runs 23:40. The uploader provided the disc cover below. But discogs and one other source agree that "All the Things..." is not on that disc. The only recording by Dexter of "All the Things..." listed in Dexter Gordon Discography Project is the quintet recording on Steeplechase that runs 17:18. I did find a third recording by Dex of "All the Things..." on youtube that runs 20:10. Here he's with Rob Agerbeek-piano, probably Henk Haverhoek-bass and Eric Ineke-drums, presumably in the Hague. I don't know where else to look for information on the video that runs 23:40, which is falsely implied to come from the disc below. Any help greatly appreciated

I now have a digital copy of Lem Davis's recording of "This is Always." Sorry to say it is not the source of Pleasure's version. And I repeat that I can't believe that anyone that listens to the latter and also listens to Moody's recording will think that the Moody recording is Pleasure's source. So...the mystery continues.

Since starting this thread I learned about a recording of "This Is Always" by Lem Davis, Prestige 915, Oct. 16, 1951 that has never been reissued. The rhythm section of Teacho Wiltshire, Leonard Gaskin, and Teddy Lee is the same rhythm section that did Pleasure's "Moody's Mood" four months later on Feb. 9, 1952. Lem Davis is also on that recording. None of the members of that rhythm section or Lem Davis are on Pleasure's original recording of "This is Always", September 29, 1953. However, Teacho Wiltshire was involved in Pleasure's 1962 remake of "This is Always" linked to above by mikeweil--(he copy of the 1953 recording on youtube from the 78 is very noisy; Pleasure's vocalese is the same on the 1962 remake). Vincent Pelote of the Institute of Jazz Studies, Rutgers University-Newark, in a reply to my query, stated that the Institute does have a copy of Prestige 915. Any member (1) located close enough to Rutgers-Newark to make feasible a visit to the Institute, and (2) have sufficient interest in this to make the visit to listen to Lem Davis's "This is Always" to determine if it's the source of Pleasure's two recordings? An appointment is necessary to visit the Institute: https://www.libraries.rutgers.edu/newark/visit-study/institute-jazz-studies It would be great if someone could check this out. (Or maybe a member just happens to have a copy of Prestige 915).

Thanks, I can't believe that Moody recording is the source. I wonder how carefully the writer of the Blue Note reissue liner listened to the two versions. Delighted to hear you're working on that discography. Really look forward to its publication. Let me throw out something for your consideration. In what I believe is Pleasure's original composition, "Golden Days", in the bridge I think I hear him quoting from a part of Lester Young's solo on the immortal JATP recording of "Lady Be Good." It's only around 20 seconds but compare Pleasure from 2:55 to 3:07 on "Golden Days", to what Lester plays from 5:07 to 5:27 on the JATP "Lady Be Good." Meanwhile, to my thinking the search continues for the source of Pleasure's "This is Always."

This is embarrassing. Yesterday I wrote that I had identified the sources of 8 of the 9 tracks on the album by King Pleasure originally issued as "Mr. Jazz." Turns out that after the very helpful replies to my appeal for help on the source of "Mean to Me", I now have the sources of 8 of the 9 tracks. I thought Moody's recording of "This is Always" was the source of Pleasure's version. But that's clearly not the case. Still looking.

Wow, thanks. Based on all of Pleasure's other work it never would have occurred to me to think about tracks from the 30s. I bought "Mr. Jazz" a few years after it came out and now 60 years later, with your help I've finally run down every track.

In searching for the sources of the tracks on King Pleasure's last recording--initially issued as "Mr. Jazz" on United Artists in 1962--I'm up to eight out of the nine tracks. The one that still eludes me is his version of "Mean to Me." Anyone know whose recording he based that track on. Thanks.

Thanks very much. I'm surprised--he's not one of my favorites and of all the saxophonists listed as being on the track (discogs) I thought he was the least likely. Excellent solo. Does the piece justice.

Would appreciate it if someone could tell me who the featured sax soloist is on the track mentioned in my title. Thanks.

Thanks so much, Trumpet Guy. Wouldn't have thought it was Henderson taking the first solo. Did suspect it was Harrell on the final solo. Thanks again.

I recently discovered on youtube the track, "That's Earl, Brother", from the 1998 disc, _Trumpet Legacy_, with Eddie Henderson, Lew Soloff, Nicholas Payton, and Tom Harrell. Reading reviews of the disc I learn that "Earl" is one of only two tracks on which all four trumpeters play. Wondering if anyone might have the disc and could provide the order of the trumpet solos on that track. Thanks in advance.