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Yes- his solo on It Might As Well Be Spring is a gem. There's an obscure Louie Bellson Impulse side called "Thunderbird" that Carl plays nicely on. He also did some recordings in the last few years with Jiggs Whigham and Andy Martin, an L.A. trombonist. I can't help but think Wayne would be amused that a Carl tangent sprouted from his thread.

Thanks for the link, brownie. Well, I hope you're right and he does improve. He's physically in pretty good shape, it's just his mental state that continues to deteriorate. When I first heard Carl it was on the Supersax "Salt Peanuts" LP. At that point I was so blown away that I figured I could just 1)quit or 2)start practicing like crazy, because THAT was how trombone should swing. Over the years I got to know him and even record with him- I remember standing next to him in the studio, preparing to FOLLOW his solo, having thoughts like "What the hell was I thinking having him play on my CD?". Some have made the mistake of thinking "Hey, maybe I can cut him......." -that's when Carl would turn on all the burners and rip the cat a new one. There are some tapes floating around of Carl and Frank Rosolino playing together that are amazing. Too bad those two didn't record together more. Frank, J.J., Wayne- the greats are disappearing, I'm afraid.........

Thanks for all the info and suggestions, guys- you've enlightened me.

I wish that was true, brownie (unless you've heard some very recent news that I've missed). Carl (my favorite trombonist) is suffering from Alzheimer's. I went out to Vegas to visit him about a year ago and he, at that point, remembered me, but since then he's basically been going downhill, I'm sorry to say. He's not playing and is in an assisted care facility. Have you heard otherwise?

..and maybe a little hot zornography to get you real zorny. Oops! I said I'd stop and I didn't!

..'cause I was afraid it'd be the Twilight Zorn........... OK, we have officially reached PREMISE OVERLOAD!!!!!!!!!!

So his Zorn-aciousness is Zorn-tastic in this case, is that what you're saying Mr. Zorn-gry? His playing is Zorn-alicious?

...and Tina Marsh? Is the CO2 still goin' at it?

This is another one that I've seen around and wondered about (Minor Swing). How does John Zorn work out on this one? That's what has me wondering. I like a lot of Zorn's sides (like Big Gundown) but have had difficulty imagining him w/an organ band.

By the way, SS- When you said you named your son after Curtis Fuller I remembered my "Boss of the Soul Stream Trombone" CD. Is that where your name came from? Also, what the hell does that title mean? I've always wondered. Forgive me if this falls under the "duh" category.

Come on Lon and Jim- you guys are in the land of Blue Bell. Cookies 'n'Cream, Banana Pudding, Pralines'n'Cream....ah, the good old days of carefree living. Every place I've lived there's been a killin' frozen custard place. Ollie's in DeKalb, IL, Stoddard's in Kent,OH and Sheridan's here in KC. Any of you have a favorite?

What really gets me is that they actually say that there's FOUR servings in these suckers. FOUR servings!! I'm sorry, there's ONE serving! One sit-com's worth of ice cream. And about 200% of your daily sat. fat intake. I don't eat this stuff anymore, but I really loved the "Chubby Hubby"-and now I am one.

I'm very sorry to hear about Wayne's passing, but I'm glad his suffering is over. Wayne was a great guy and a great trombonist who played his ass off. He wasn't as widely known as some, but you'd be surprised at just how many sessions he played on- you've probably heard him and don't even know it. I got to hang w/him a couple of times- once in college he was a guest w/my jazz band. He played so smoothly and fluently he really kicked my ass at a time I needed some inspiration. He also was an articulate and approachable clinician- he always took time to answer any question. He will, of course, be missed. Thanks, Wayne.

Chocolate-covered pretzels- the best of both worlds!

There's been some discussion about the various jazz scenes. Some here were wondering about how Iowa City could have such a hip jazz fest and have it be so well attended in a time when jazz audiences are increasingly fickle. Were a lot of those people locals, or did a lot come from other cities? Probably a mixture, right? The thread is under "Live shows and festivals" and is called "Jazz in the midwest" or something like that.

"Curtis Stream", huh? It does flow nicely. "Hunker down" is all you CAN do- I don't think I could do anything else with my life, so I'll just keep pluggin' away whether or not things get better. I think the "hunkering down" part is where you learn a lot about your priorities. And where you learn to play the blues better. B)

OK, you got me- I haven't heard of this guy. I'll be interested to check it out.

Hey Miles251- So you found me, huh? I'm back in KC. If you'd read the board once in a while and maybe contribute every now and then you'd know what's going on. Wow, 4 posts since you've joined. Why don't you come around a little more often? I think people here would be interested to hear what you have to say. BTW, I brought you what I always bring you so bend over, sonny boy.

OK, anyone else out there need specific conditions for successful attainment of sleep? I need the following to reach REM nirvana: 1) noise/ moving air (my fan takes care of this. I can't hang with those Sharper Image-type noise machines- thunder, waterfalls and chirping critters keep me awake) and 2) cool temperature (sweaty bed not good unless doing horizontal tango) and 3) low level of light (slight anxiety of total darkness). Unfortunately, my wife prefers 1) absolute, still silence 2) HOT room and 3) DARK room. I refer to her preferred sleep environment as "The Crypt". Needless to say, we have two separate sleeping areas. I swear this saves our marriage, since we both need to get the maximum amount of sleep. I'd rather sacrifice a little intimacy than deal with her or me lacking in adequate rest. The two of us sharing a hotel room? Forget it. Also, when she wakes up in the morning, the covers on her bed haven't shifted in the least. A corpse shifts and squirms more than she does. I could set full glasses of wine around her and they'd still be there, undisturbed, in the morning. My covers are on the floor, the mattress cover is gone and I wake up shivering on a bare mattress like a junkie. Am I the only one suffering from this? I hope not.

Let me guess.....is it Andre Hayward? Josh Roseman? Andre just won the Monk competition. They FINALLY got around to trombone; figures, after I'm "too old" to even enter. I guess I'm more of an "up-and-chucking" kind of player...........

I don't know, sometimes one trombonist is one too many. I remember Brannen Temple. He still playing his ass off?

"DAY JOB".......... Two words that hit you like a sustained major seventh on a dominant chord......

All I know is that I'm always moist. Always.

Oh boy! New tunes! So you're diggin' the Harry Whitaker side, huh? Did you find the copy that was hiding at Streetside? It really grew on me.

Rooster, how have you been able to stand it?