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Good topic- these reissues deserve more attention. I have about a dozen of these and have been very pleased with what I've heard. The Dizzy, Art Farmer, Jimmy Cleveland (I'm thrilled to find ANYTHING by this under-appreciated trombonist), Lalo Schifrin, Konitz (I must say I prefer the most recent version of this one), Stitt and Jones Bros. are favorites. The most startlingly outstanding acquisition, though, was the Thigpen side Out of the Storm. This contains some amazingly great Clark Terry playing. It's one of those things you listen to and just crack up, it's so good. He does a solo on mouthpiece only that transcends "schtick". Thigpen, Herbie, Burrell, Ron Carter and Clark. Can't go wrong w/that band. Plus, I got Ed Thigpen to sign my copy.

I'm not very knowledgeable about cyber-terrorism, but I can't help but wonder if there's any way to trace this back to a source. Are these guys really adept at covering their tracks? It sure seems like a lot is known about them- where they're from, their motives, other hacking jobs they've done. Couldn't some "counter hackers" hack the hackers? Of course, my first thoughts were "some pissed off poster has exacted their revenge!". I won't even list the names that crossed my mind since it would only be speculation. Though you can guess, I'll bet. Glad to see the board back. I didn't realize how addicted I'd become until denied access . It's nice to have an alternative site like AAJ as sort of an "emergency family meeting place" to go to and get information (and vice-versa). Just glad it was up again. Duck and cover!

Looks like the Chiefs are for real. Finally. Maybe. Well, we'll see........ Man, that Michigan game was a shocker. They were out of sync the whole game. Ohio State sure doesn't look unbeatable- the Big Ten seem a little rocky this year. The MAC conference is sure shaking things up. I used to work at Northern Illinois- they had a major losing streak going during the 90s (of course, my wife used to work at Kent State, if you want to talk about teams w/impressive losing streaks!).

What has 32 arms, 29 legs and 6 teeth? The front row at a Willie Nelson Concert. EDIT: I guess I shouldn't ridicule Willie since pretty much the whole first Jack Johnson CD is dedicated to him.

Also Horace's Strollin'............

BTW, the title Greasy Sack Blues had nothing to do with fast food. It had everything to do with riding on a bus all day, if you catch my drift. Sorry if that's too much information.

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Hey, Lee wrote Speedball in Db! Lush Life. Body and Soul. Don Rader's chart for Woody's band, Greasy Sack Blues. Wasn't Basie's Blues in Hoss Flat in Db? I was in a circumstance where I had to deal with the key of Db or die. Once I got over the initial shock, I found that there are a lot of ideas that lay really well in Db (of course that applies to my medieval instrument-your mileage may vary!).

I thought the horns did a recording w/o Prince. I don't have it, I just heard about it. Me not know what answer to Rooster question are.

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Well, I'm assuming there will be a lot of support for "Gigolo" (is that one definitely coming out?) but personally I'd like to see "Delightfulee" get RVGd. And I certainly would not be disappointed with "Cornbread".

Welcome ninety! I think you need to define "screaming" a little more clearly. What you and I find to be "squeaky and annoying" might be completely different. Give us an example of something you like. Do you mean fast, busy playing, like bebop? Dizzy Gillespie, Clifford Brown, Fats Navarro. Or do you mean loud, flashy high note playing? Arturo Sandoval, Cat Anderson (with Duke Ellington's band), Maynard Ferguson, Jon Faddis. Or do you mean big band? The above names plus Bill Chase (Woody Herman band of the 60s), Buddy Rich big band, Stan Kenton big band, Maynard Ferguson big band. If you're thinking pop music, maybe Tower of Power, Earth, Wind and Fire, James Brown, Chase (a group from the 70s that put out some nice recordings- featured a lot of trumpet) My only advice to you is to try and vary your listening- many of the recommendations you'll get here will be music that has more content than just high, loud and fast playing. Listen to whatever you enjoy- that's the most important thing- but try to expand your tastes and sample as many types of jazz that you can. I always suggest Miles Davis as an important artist, not only because of his playing, but because of the great players he had in his groups. I suggest you keep coming here for suggestions- you will get some great advice from the members of this board! EDIT: Didn't Prince's horn section (I think they called themselves the "Hornheads") do a recording? There was also a recording of Steely Dan tunes (as instrumentals) by what seemed to be a bunch of LA studio players who called themselves the Hoops McCann band.

Hey, maybe if this becomes a Blue Note they'll RVG it and fix the crappy sound!

I like beans in chili. I guess ground beef isn't really kosher either to purists. I would expect that comment from someone from Texas- but San Francisco?? Don't you, like, put salmon and sprouts in your chili out there?

Sounds like one of those Flonase- type products you see on TV. You know, the happy Stepford people going about their business and the voice-over saying "side effects may include explosive flatulence and extreme bleeding from the ears" and such.

Another favorite weekend activity is firing up the ol' smoker. I did a whole turkey once for Thanksgiving- that took a long time, but it was great. Pork roasts, marinated skirt steak and chicken for fajitas, cornish hens- these are a few favorites. I haven't had consistent success with brisket, which is what I'd really like to nail. I think the secret is to smoke it for a while and then wrap it in foil so it doesn't dry out. Wood-wise, I usually use hickory, but I like mesquite on occasion, and fruit woods like cherry or apple work great for pork. I would like to eventually get one of those big smokers w/the side firebox- I currently just have a little water smoker that looks like R2-D2. Works OK, though. Anyone ever done the fried turkey thing? It sounds nasty health-wise, but people who have tried it say it's great. I just can't see me with gallons of hot oil and not think: recipe for disaster!! Or "Honey, where's the cat?" .

Elgin sausage is one of the things I miss most from my Texas days!

OK, it gets to be this time of year and it's time to start whippin' up the football-watchin' weekend goodies. Here's a favorite of mine: Your basic chili recipe Browned ground beef Kidney beans, with can juice Onions, garlic and green/red peppers, sauteed in a little olive oil Black olives Crushed tomatoes Rotel green chili/tomato w/chili seasoning A little bit o' BBQ sauce Splash of Worcesister, or however you spell it Beer ( to put in chili and drink during prep- I like Shiner Bock for chili) Chili powder, cumin, pepper (black and red) I don't add salt 'cause the canned stuff has plenty Corn bread w/ jalapenos and corn added Tasty! Even better the second day. Anyone have a good chili or other comfort food recipe? I know we've done cooking threads before, I thought I'd start a new one. I never tire of discussing food .

I just got my copy from Rooster. Congratulations, guys, you've done a great job! Excellent recording quality, great tunes (and variety)- I love the way you did the 11/4- you guys do a great job of obscuring bar lines! And most importantly, GREAT playing by everyone! Nice touch to use Ron, too. BTW, where's the micobrewery that's on the cover? I'll have what Joe's having! You know, Jim, I did a similar dedication to my mother on my CD. She passed while I was working on the CD- that's certainly a tough loss. Anyway, Jim, Joe and Randy- keep up the good work! I look forward to hearing you live sometime. Can I sit in?

BTW, happy birthday Jack McDuff!

I love this time of year- the end of the baseball season coinciding with the beginning of football season. I'm not much of a gambler, though. I have, however, lost a lot of my enthusiasm for pro football and other pro sports in recent years. It seems like these days you root for a logo- the days of associating players with one team for multiple seasons are long gone. I remember growing up in the 70s with teams like the Steelers, Dolphins, Chiefs, etc.- you could count on the same guys showing up each season. Now you end up having to root for the guy you HATED last season .

Have you heard the Jimmy McGriff w/big band called Tribute to Basie (on the Sonny Lester label)? That one was arranged by Manny Albam. I thought there were some interesting moments on it. I agree, the density of the organ timbre makes for a difficult match w/big band. The orchestration has to be approached w/this in mind. That being said, I think there's a lot yet to be investigated regarding the power of the organ sound facing off w/the power of the big band. It just seems that they shouldn't get in the way of each other.

wesbed, I must say I envy you- you're in the process of discovering players and hearing things for the first time (and this board is a great place to further your education). I remember very specifically where I was when I first heard certain recordings, and I remember that big rush that came from realizing that you were hearing some important music or players for the first time. That first-time feeling gets more and more rare as you become familiar w/the music (at least for me it has). I mean, I still get a rush hearing something good for the first time, but after you've studied the music and learned to listen with more of an analytical ear, it gets harder to be objective. You can usually figure out pretty quickly WHY something sounds good, but there's less of that mystical sense of hearing something and liking it w/o knowing why. I miss those days. I miss flipping through the LPs at the record store and coming upon some BN or other session I'd never heard of. I remember the first time I went to Rose Records in Chicago. This was in the 70s and Rose was THE place- it was nirvana (I hadn't yet discovered Jazz Record Mart)! I remember buying a copy of JJ's Proof Positive- that's one of those moments I was talking about. I apologize for the nostalgic tangent .

I too would like to hear what others think about this session. I just received it with an order and haven't yet had an opportunity to listen to it. The reissue apparently contains additional material which brings the playing time to nearly 80 minutes.

Invitation is one of my personal favorite tunes to play on. What a beautifully structured masterpiece! And it works at a variety of tempos and grooves. There is a nice version of Invitation on a Jack Wilkins recording w/Mike and Randy Brecker, Jon Burr, Al Foster and Phil Markowitz. This is a straight ahead session originally released as You Can't Live Without It but has since been reissued (paired with another nice session) under the title Merge. This group recently released a "reunion" recording, which I thought wasn't as good as the original. Even people who aren't Brecker fans seem to like his playing on this one. Another Joe Henderson version can be found on In Pursuit Of Blackness, a live session that is part of the Milestone box (Woody Shaw is on that one as well ).