Guy Berger

If the sound *is* a major improvment in the Conn, then I will have to pick that up. I totally missed this AotW back when it happened, but what a marvelous album! Somebody on the Miles Davis list suggested that "Cyclic Episode" sounds a lot like the 2nd Quintet with Miles laying out -- Sam even sounds a little like Wayne here. Guy

I'm so psyched about this... I've got my 8:15 PM Wednesday night tickets. Guy

Davis filled in for Carter a couple of times. There's a live recording from '66 (Portland ME, I believe) that has him on board, though I don't remember much about it offhand. Guy

Here's are two from a while back, but I think they are OOP: Sonny Sharrock, Ask the Ages Joe Zawinul, Zawinul

John -- A couple of recordings in this tree are not in the Wild discography, including the Down Beat Jazz Festival performance w/Archie Shepp and the balance of the 9/30/65 Seattle concert w/Pharoah and Donald Garrett. Guy

I have been listening to recordings of the Coltrane Quartet from March '65 at the Half Note. This is some incredible music, crappy sound quality not withstanding. If you listen to only the officially recorded stuff, it seems like he underwent a very rapid change in style, from A Love Supreme in December to recordings like Transition and Vigil, onto the final quartet recordings on Sun Ship and First Meditations. What these live recordings show is that the Quartet was already performing at Sun Ship - level intensity months earlier. The 3/19 show has a boiling version of "Impressions", and the 3/26 "One Up, One Down" has one of the most incredible Trane-Elvin duets I've heard. Highly recommended!! Guy

I thought I'd start this thread so people can chip in when something goes out of print -- it's very frustrating to hold off on buying something and then discover that it's vanished. Maybe this way we will have a chance to snag it before that happens. Guy

Just to prepare everyone, here's a cool essay on this album from rec.music.bluenote. I think this essay encapsulates almost everything I love about the album.

Alan Lankin's website now lists a Spring '04 release of Charles Lloyd / Billy Higgins duets on ECM. Anybody have additional info on this? Update 1/6/04: Alan's website now includes the title "Which Way Is East?" Guy

Count me in the "Santana fans" group, though I actually prefer the 1st two albums over the third. As far as the fusiony stuff goes, Caravanserai and Lotus are awesome, Welcome a little behind, and the other stuff more average. Borboletta has some awesome music but also its share of crap. Later material becomes more hit and miss. Guy

I don't think there's any record of Miles playing Milestones before 1963. Perhaps this is the version with George Coleman, Herbie, Ron and Tony from that year? Guy

The Byrds' versions of "Tambourine Man" and "My Back Pages" are major masterpieces. But I also really enjoy their covers of "Chimes of Freedom", "Spanish Harlem Incident", and "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere". Pack up your money, pull up your tent, McGuinn, you ain't going nowhere... The Band's first album also has a few incredible Dylan covers -- not sure if "Tears of Rage" counts since it was cowritten with Richard Manuel, but "I Shall Be Released" definitely does. Guy

In Ashley Kahn's book A Love Supreme, Carlos Santana says: "If I did do it [record another version of A Love Supreme], I would do it differently than the way John McLaughlin and myself did it when we just went for it. Now I dream big, man, I don't dream small. I would do it with a symphony, with real African drummers, Brazilian musicians, with Alice Coltrane, [indian sarod master] Ali Akbar Khan, Wayne Shorter, Pharoah Sanders, Herbie [Hancock], McCoy and everyone in tuxedos." (p. 204) Does that scare the crap out of anybody else? Guy

"This crustacean clearly could swim," said Siveter. And there was another striking feature, he added. "It is certainly the oldest penis in the world, that's for certain." http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ience_fossil_dc

I agree -- I have no problem buying legit, officially released material when it is available. If a record company does not find it worth its while to do so, then I think the material in question is fair game for copy & trade. Guy

This is an amazing, amazing collection of music. I've only gotten through 6 of the discs thus far and my favorites are probably those of the Rome gig (4 & 5). There's that cool collective improv bit where Chick's playing flute. Guy

My collection (miniscule): Jazz in Silhouette Interstellar Low Ways/Visits Planet Earth (the classic Trane-foreseeing Gilmore solo!) Angels and Demons at Play/Nubians of Plutonia Other Planes of There The Magic City Heliocentric Worlds Vols. 1 & 2 Atlantic Space is the Place (Impulse!)

"Competent" is a serious stretch when Rolling Stone comes to mind. Guy

I believe John Handy played that solo, not Hadi. Guy

Can I just add that Jaki Byard's recording of "Parisian Thoroughfare" (w/Roland Kirk) is one of my favorite recordings? What a rollercoaster. Guy

I was listening to the '64 Town Hall Concert and thought this would be an interesting poll. I excluded Dolphy to give the other guys a chance. Since I could only include nine candidates + "other", some important Mingus sidemen were unfortunately omitted. Guy

He looked fine when I saw him at the Iridium this spring. Guy

One obvious choice is Joe Henderson's State of the Tenor (BN) with Ron Carter and Al Foster. Another one I have is Odean Pope's EBIOTO (Knitting Factory). Guy

I haven't heard all these albums, but Time Further Out is just as good as Time Out. In fact, the group is much more effective at improvising over the unusual meters on this date. Guy