Guy Berger
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If I had to pick a favorite “Lovano on BN” (of the ones I’ve ever heard), it’d be either the Vanguard quartet w/Harrell or 52nd Street Themes.
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5 hours ago, Rabshakeh said:
I am not sure whether I am the only person to hear it.
I have read a lot about the influence of Marsh and Konitz on Braxton's soloing style, but I am an not sure I have read about any influence of Dolphy.
To me, it seems quite a clear link between Dolphy's interval hopping and Braxton. This is particularly strong (to my dumb ears) when he is playing other people's tunes.
I'm interested whether other forum members are of a similar view. Maybe I am wrong (I am not a musician, or particularly knowledgeable). Perhaps he has acknowledged Dolphy or discussed the link and I have just missed it.
What others said. I think the Dolphy influence might be too “obvious” for people to comment on whereas Marsh and Konitz are “surprising” and generates more commentary.
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Revisiting Lovano’s Blue Note albums for the first time in a long time. I have 10 of them.
the live quartet disc from the Village Vanguard w/Tom Harrell, Anthony Cox and Billy Hart is top notch.
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I ordered a bunch of stuff from this label this week:
Marion Brown/Dave Burrell, Live at the Black Musicians' Conference 1981
John Carter, Echoes from Rudolph's
Vinny Golia, Hell-Bent in the Pacific
Dennis Gonzalez, Songs of Early Autumn
Adam Lane/Darius Jones/Vijay Anderson, Absolute Horizon
Ted Daniel/Oliver Lake/Daniel Carter/etc, Interconnection
Charles Brackeen & ensemble, Melodic Art-Tet
Ahmed Abdullah & ensemble, The Group Live
Julius Hemphill & Pete Kowald, Live at Kassiopeia
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On 8/14/2024 at 8:36 PM, Chuck Nessa said:
Any opinions on Rob Mazurek's Exploding Star Orchestra?
AMAZING (I’ve only heard the 1st two on Thrill Jockey)
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My faves that I’ve heard are Henry Threadgill’s Dirt and More Dirt and Steve Coleman’s Synovial Joints.
i have also enjoyed Michael Formanek’s The Distance and Tim Berne’s Open Coma.
I may be forgetting other recordings of interest!
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He kept playing it in the early stages of the 1980s comeback!
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I’ve been exploring this guy’s music on Pi.
its pretty striking and uncompromising. Not in the sense of extreme jazz but more in the sense that it has some jazz trappings but sounds quite different.
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The only time (to my knowledge) that I had COVID was December 2022, and it was pretty unpleasant (worse than a cold, comparable to a mild flu - aches, fatigue, congestion). I got a paxlovid prescription and it was a miracle drug - worked almost immediately, with little of the metallic taste other people experience - but also symptoms returned once the prescription ended.
I assume I'm going to get this virus again from time to time. It seems to vary a lot by person whether the 2nd time is better or worse than the 1st one.
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40 minutes ago, medjuck said:
I've never found this in print but in the early '60s someone told me that the rap on the first quintet had been "a cocktail piano player, an out of tune saxophonist and a drummer who played too loud". Don't recall hearing that anyone had bad mouthed Paul Chambers.
I think that quote also said Chambers was very young.
FWIW, I don't think Chambers's arco playing is without reproach
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On 6/16/2024 at 11:27 PM, Gheorghe said:
Hello Friends !
I don´t know where to post this. Once there was a topic "Miles Davis Bootleg Series" with a lot of previously unissued material like the "Lost Quintet" etc.
Few Days ago I heard on youtube the great Miles from 1974 at Sao Paolo and I think it is some of the best things Miles did in that very dense and exiting period, together with Liebman, M´tume, Foster, and so on.
How much would I like to hear this on CD. I wonder why it was not issued yet, since I think it´s some of the greatest Miles of the ´70´s . Until I finally will have this, my favourite remains "Dark Magus". I heard that band live it was my first jazz concert, it all started there, and with Mingus of course......
Lots of recordings of Miles with the Cosey band, from 1973 through 1975, a few of which have been officially released.
i haven’t listened to this period closely - are these Brazilian recordings better than average, in terms of either content or sound quality?
On 6/17/2024 at 5:01 AM, John L said:According to the Losin discography, soundboard recordings were made for three nights in São Paulo - May 28, June 1, and June 2. Some of it has been bootlegged. I have a recording of the first concert that I got from somewhere (I can't remember where)
There’s also a recording from Rio, I believe.
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The 3 most recent releases just arrived here.
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RIP. Contributed to some great recordings!
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On 5/17/2024 at 6:44 AM, Daniel A said:
I consider this to be more post bebop than Jim Hall:
This is the kind of stuff that I had in mind. Music that lands in the same place as the Miles 2nd quintet, Coltrane’s classic quartet, the music that Shorter/Henderson/McLean/Hill were recording for Blue Note… it’s telling that these guys never included guitarists in their recordings prior to 1968.
Someone mentioned Larry Coryell upthread - good callout. I’d put him in the same bucket as Szabo, Zollar.
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1 hour ago, Niko said:
George Benson? Freddie Robinson? Joe Beck? Jimi Hendrix? There's so many more people I'm forgetting... The statement didn't feel quite right to me either....
Hendrix was not a jazz guitarist. Benson was a soul jazz guitarist, and Beck also strikes me as a fairly conservative player. Sonny Sharrock was an avant-gardist. Two folks who do fit into the bucket imho are Atilla Zollar (sp?) and Gabor Szabo, but they were relatively marginal in terms of importance.
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7 hours ago, ep1str0phy said:
BTW - thanks for the kindness, guys. I've definitely missed being here! Having a kid has completely recalibrated so many of my old habits.
Congrats!!!
A few quick reactions to reading this thread.
1) he recorded a lot of music for Blue Note! A lot of his contemporaries would have dreamed of that opportunity (though I am guessing it might have been low-paying, high volume)
2) For a guy with his “stylistic comfort zone”, he got to record across a very wide range of contexts! I don’t think they were holding him back in that respect.
3) His batting average over a very large number of recordings is quite high
Fwiw, it’s interesting that until John McLaughlin came on the scene there was no big-name post bebop guitarist, in contrast to other major jazz instruments. GG was the guy that BN chose to experiment with that space.
16 hours ago, ep1str0phy said:For reference: there's all that talk about how Wes played with the Coltrane band. I can absolutely understand why this might be the case. Wes's harmonic vocabulary was surpassing, but he also figured out how how to solo with octaves in an era when people hadn't yet developed a facility with that technique. I can't imagine too many other players who were able to play over Elvin in an era before good live sound and freely available gain/distortion options.
Don’t we have more recorded evidence of GG in adventurous contexts than WM? I think it’s telling that WM quickly left JC’s band, it’s hard to imagine him fitting in with most of their post-1960 recordings.
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He’s great on Tim Berne’s Diminutive Mysteries.
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I recently picked up McHenry's 3 albums w/Ben Monder, Reid Anderson and Paul Motian. They're very good.
One thing that stands out - especially on Roses and Ghosts of the Sun - is how much this music revolves around Motian's idiosyncratic style. It's just really hard to imagine what this music would sound like with a different drummer.
McHenry has a great sense for avant-garde drummers, given his subsequent partnership w/Andrew Cyrille.
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Wilkins plays on a few excellent tracks from that superb Julius Hemphill box set that came out a few years ago.
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On 4/29/2024 at 11:54 AM, clifford_thornton said:
When I have seen Zoh she makes a ruckus but there's not a lot of depth. She would not be the first to do that and nor will she be the last; my issue is the PR machine that is churning around it all, which seems at odds with the musical content.
How much of this do you think is just an “early career” thing?
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Was listening to the 2nd Big Satan album, Souls Saved Hear. Better imho than the first - just wonderful, compact anarchy. Marc Ducret is so good.
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On 3/20/2024 at 9:46 PM, Guy Berger said:
This one and Early Reflections are both incredibly good albums. Wish Benny would record more.
what’s it going to take for a record label to make another Bennie Maupin album? These two were excellent - the guy has a track record!!!!
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10 hours ago, Ken Dryden said:
When Pinder left, his replacement, Patrick Moraz, hastened the band’s decline with his mediocre contributions.
Moraz had zero impact on the trajectory either way. The band was starting to run out of ideas by the early 1970s.
On 4/25/2024 at 3:46 PM, felser said:RIP. He was a major contributor in defining their classic sound, then got out when the getting out was good.
Fair characterization. A huge contributor to their sound, which coupled w/Justin Hayward and John Lodge’s superior songwriting made the early MB albums worn so well.
There are a few instrumentals by him on the early MB albums that are awesome.
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On 1/13/2024 at 7:27 PM, HutchFan said:
Guy,
Since you just ordered those Brotherhood of Breath albums, you'll also likely enjoy this Harry Miller release: https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.com/album/which-way-now
I think it's terrific.
This is very good! Thanks for the recommendation.
Miles in France – Miles Davis Quintet 1963/64: The Bootleg Series, Vol. 8
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This is great music. Will pick it up.