michel1969

and just begin : hal mc kusick "triple exposure" yellow lbl NY

Al Cohn "That old feeling" RCA 1207 mono original

Who has ever seen it ? has it ? title "have mood, will call" on Sue Lp 1011.

. A lot of the early Riverside LP's (w/white label) you see in Europe have a safety lip as well and GB patent nrs stamped into the vinyl. These are IMO Europeas pressings - the American pressings are a lot heavier and have no safetly lip (and do sound better). European pressings or US press FOR european market ? They also bear an "US" pat. The weight difference is stunning, anyway. The "jazz lab" (12-229) is one of the heaviest record i've ever seen !

The admiral Nunmutz eventually won the Stereo True Blue battle (against some Japanese i believe...)

Yes... i must admit, they were a bunch of .... how do you say, "nunmutz" ? definitely right !

Another example of the Ebay madness : the flat edge madness. Many early Lex and NY23 Blue Note are described as "flat edge" (often meaning : "early" or "first press" / last flat was 1557, right or wrong ?). And flat edge attract premium bids, high price, mass hysteria etc... But in fact, many other record from other labels (Prestige, Riverside) should be described as flat edge or not, when necessary. For example, i have two copies of Tony Fruscella on Atlantic : one has a flat edge, the other has not. So there are obviously two pressings of this record. Anyway, its never mentionned on Ebay auctions, and prices are always the same for a NM record, although there are two editions and two covers, also (one framed, the other not). Every details is described on Blue Note, but the same details are often ignored on other labels... Hey after all, are those high bidders REAL connoiseurs ? I remember this guy bidding on a True Blue 4041, described as original STEREO (!!) pressing "STILL SEALED" (!!!). Tried to warn him two times.. Eventually he won the record (more than 400 $ !!!). After that, when he received the record he left negative, of course. I contacted him : "hey, i tried to warn you that you were bidding on a reissue" he answered "i did not know that there was no original stereo edition of True Blue"... To sum up, the guys bids 400 on something that he doesn't even know...

Hello, I'm new to this forum and would to share someinpressions about the topic. Everybody here talks about Blue Note madness, how high are now NM original press especially Lex, NY 23, and W63. And fifty more albums that are very expensive ( Colossus, Overseas, Jaro, Ad Lib Transition etc...). I've been collecting for ten years, an believe it or not, i eventually got tired of Blue Note ! I have many BN originals, including some of the most sought after (i don't say : Rare), i spent a lot of money buying them, and i realized that, altghough Blue Note albums are wonderful there are many non-BN album that are as hip, as groovy, as funky, as interesting as Blue Note ! Here are some of my favourite : Tony Fruscella ! Don Sleet (this one is worth 50 $ ! imagine with a BN number : 500 or +), Tommy Turrentine on Time ! Warne Marsh ! Many Epics (Chartlie Rouse, Dave Bailey), Rocky Boyd, Rene Thomas (Guitar Groove : worth 50 $ ! one of the greatest guitar albums ! ) Rolf Kuhn (Streamline : worth 120 $) Sonny Criss on Imperial etc, many Prestige, Riverside, Savoy I think that it is still possible to build an interesting collection (of course, far from the 75000 records fantasm ! ), with rare and desirable records. in fact, only Blue Note prices are growing senselessly. For many records, prices are stable. And -, you can still find them for a bargain. I paid 160 $ for a NM copy of Warm Woods on Ebay, 275 for Rocky Boyd etc... Most of the time, 1000+ prices are commanded by 1) the reputation of the dealer, 2) the "i-want-this-record- no matter-what price" state of mind, and the competition between two bidders. Remember the Monk RLP 242 that sold 3000 $ at Atomic ! if i try to sell my copy, it will probably reach 250. Period. Here's one i've never seen (in fact : one time on Anthony Pearson auction ) : Will Davis Trio "have mood, will call", on Sue LP 1011. I'd really like to catch this one. Thanks for comments ! Michel