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Getting into bed with the enemy. Is that what Marsalis and Couch do?

My memory of a recent blindfold test with Papa Lou suggests he is definitely of the Marsalis/ Couch mindset to a certain degree. I cannot remember the exact quote but Papa Lou was played an Ornette Coleman recording. his response was something along the lines of 'well it's not jazz, it might be interesting it might even be beautiful but it doesn't contain the essential ingredients of jazz'. I think he found it's closest comparison to folk traditions. i found this to be an interesting response in as much as Lou 'like Ornette' defines within jazz that sound of the 'blues cry' discussed already in this thread. It would be interesting to find the actual BF test. It was in Jazztimes or Jazziz I think and would add more light into this I guess. Lou sounded a little like Mingus in his belief that even if you didn't exactly play songs with changes, that your playing should contain the information of it, for it to be jazz.

'Incontinent' has two meanings in French. It means 'incontinence' but it can also be used as a synonym to 'immédiatement' (immediately). Second meaning was being used in this case! Thanks for clearing that up Brownie. If I ever have the good fortune to be in Paris one day l'll be sure not get these different meanings mixed up. Good to see these sessions getting re-released. Look forward to exploring more of them.

I have had two 'real' Harmolodic 'close encounters' though. Having stood at a urinal next to both 'Dewey Redman' and 'James Blood Ulmer,' although ten years apart. I was in there first both times. And no, I didn't look.

Fifteen years ago a friend of mine was having an art exhibition here in Melbourne. I had arranged to meet her to see the work. while we were at the gallery Eartha Kitt and a small entourage of very sharp looking African American men entered the gallery. 'Wow that's Eartha Kitt' I said to my friend, and 'she's come to see your show..that must be her band with her'. While Eartha and some of her entourage were talking to my friend, I plucked up the courage to approach one of her "band". I walked up to one of them and being nervous and gushing, out came words to the effect of, "Are you guys from New York?" "I love Jazz" "Do You Know Ornette Coleman?"........The person I was addressing turned his head towards me and said 'I'm from mainland Australia Mate......I'm just showing this mob around". By the time I had got over my embarrassment and the person I was speaking to had stopped laughing, Eartha and her band were already out of the gallery and off somewhere else. The person I had spoken to was an Aboriginal 'country and western, singer called Murray, from a place in rural Australia called Murray Bridge. This may be the only time a 'country and western' performer has ever been potentially mistaken for a student of Harmolodics, accept perhaps Jerry Garcia.

Well thanks to the recommendations of Magnificent Goldberg I now own and am thoroughly enjoying Meeting Mr Thomas and the Sonny Criss one. Both found second hand at the same store. Was rather sad to read in the liner notes that Rene Thomas had to leave his gig with Sonny Rollins and return to Europe 'incontinent'.....eeergh....perhaps something got lost in the translation.

Well while this thread is up here's a question I've been wanting to ask the BJP fraternity on the board. I remember not to long ago reading a blindfold test with Charlie Hunter where he was played Footprints off 'Memphis to New York Spirit'. Hunter responded positively to Patton's and Blood's playing but stated that he thought Leroy Williams was seriously undermining the overall quality of the performance. This being another one of my favourite sessions, I have to say that until reading this Blindfold Test I never had any reservations about Williams contributions to this session, or any other of his appearances with Patton. Hunter even went so far as to question whether Williams was a 'friend of Patton's from New Jersey', or something like that. Well the drumming on these sessions never hit me in the face like, say, Hugh Walker or Candy Finch, but nor did I find it anyway substandard. Did the drumming on these discs ever bother anybody else? BTW I noticed recently that Leroy Williams went on to play with Andrew Hill!!!

Is it possible to get to those AOTW threads from the search engine. I'm sure JamesTrane would enjoy reading them. hope he's still here. Maybe someone who knows how can make a link or give the info as to what weeks they were.

Actually I found this BB by accident when doing a Google search on 'Got a Good Thing Goin' and 'Let Em Roll', which led me to the album of the week threads. Before that I would've found it hard to believe 'anybody' would have loved or listened to those sessions more than me. Well if not more then certainly as much. When I've got the time and money to begin my investigations into the recorded legacy of Don Patterson, I'll make sure to use the search engine here first.

Caeser looks like the Sonny Sharrock of the hammond on this cover.

Thank you for the warm welcome Ritalin run out this week ?

That's a good album. The way he plays on Take the Coltrane is pretty incredible. I think at that time John was playing that Johnny Smith jazz box with some chorus and whatever amp was around. I could be wrong on that, though. I think it is a good album, but I just dislike his guitar tone on this record- sounds very synthetic to me. I miss the guitar sound. Oh yeh! Take the Coltrane! Great tune. Great performance. From the live clips I found on youtube it seems like McLaughlin was replicating the same tone live as on the record. Seems like that must have been the sound he wanted for that project. Makes an interesting comparison with Pat Martino's approach to his organ trio project with Defrancesco.

Well given up trying to find a copy of Enfin anywhere on the web. Looks like Meeting Mr Thomas is available easily though. Thanks MG. There is a rene Thomas re-issue appearing in a few weeks on the mysterious five-four label though. doesn't say what the contents are though.

You're rich!!!! MG Well with those autographs Brownie your vinyl might fetch $6026.48 on the open market.

What a sobering and informative reminiscence. There must have been some people who were exhilarated by the performances at that time though.

Well from the discography I'd like to hear ENfin with Lou Bennet that sounds really interesting. There is a Lou Bennet lp with Jimmy Goulay on GEMM going for the small amount of $3026.48 us however. Might have to settle for an entry level intro to Bennet/Thomas when I can. The sound bites from Guitar Groove on Amazon remind me a bit of GG's head arrangments for Solid actually. Thomas's tone is rich and full too. Time for a re-acquantence.

Yeh McLaughlins tone is always shifting. One of my favourite sessions ever is After the Rain with Defrancesco and Elvin Jones. I guess it would have been a much discussed project on these boards. Always wondered about McLaughlin's sound on that one. Would it be a midi processed chorus effect or a straight through the amp kind of thing? But yeh it would be great to hear him plug into a fender twin and let it rip.

Yes I had the book this photo was from and always remember it. It's such a beautiful picture and says so much about the music. Thanks for posting this and reminding me. I was thinking of this very picture only a little while ago when I caught an old eposide of Parkinson that had Sacha Distel guesting. He sang and played a nice guitar interlude. Also reminds me of a great duet tribute to Rene by McLaughlin and Coryell called 'Rene's Theme'. Can't remember which album it was off. Definitely an early Coryell Vanguard one, a very fiery exchange.

Wasn't it established in another thread MG that it wasn't Big John Patton playing on that one but someone whose name really was Malcolm Base. Or have I remembered wrongly. Anyway it's all a moot point to me because I haven't heard it yet. Oh well gotta have something to look forward to hearing from the past.

Is Museart recorded with Eddie Deihl and Big John on board as well.

The Complete Verve Recordings of Grant Green as Leader and Sideman

It's a k-2 edition. 20-bit. Thanks a lot! Thought this was the case. Do you think it might get RVGd

can anyone confirm if this is a new remaster or a re-issue of the previous Japanese cd from a few years ago. It is not a great recorded sound I guess, so any new remaster might add to the quality perhaps. This is my favourite Braith even though the Blue Notes are classic organ quartets, this one is kinda unique, although I have never heard the Museart session.

Flea's first instrument was trumpet and he was a jazz prodigy. Even played with Diz if I remember correctly. Then he discovered Jimi and the rest is as they say... history.