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What were the suggestions?

I recall (another) old online interview with her, maybe American, where the gist of it was that she seemed to be mixing rap-type lyrics with "Electronica" and was that going to prevent her acceptance with "R&B" audiences, because that stuff is all "European" not "Urban". Not even a subtle coding there...

Is there a difference between morphing and evolving? I do hear elements of the former sticking around and showing up in the latter, to then further evolve. Some organizational things had changed in some pretty basic ways and they stuck around. And I forget where Broken Beat/Drum & Bass (all the labels...) falls into the chronology, but that was some replacement toolbox stuff as well. Beats, changes, melodies, TEMPOS!, nothing is as it was, and one person, place, or thing didn't do it alone or at once! IMO, this micro wacko subsubsubsub genre labeling is missing the bigger point that a significant portion of the collective reality-perception/dance mojo (instinctual/ behavioral, not social) has changed. The people have changed. The shapes and colors have changed. Accents have changed Life has changed. The resistance is strong, but...you can't stop running water.

Not sure about CDrs at that price?

A flashlight will only show you what you point it at. I mean, give me a fucking break! https://www.discogs.com/master/1188411-Ursula-Rucker-Ruckus-Soundsysdom Ursula Rucker – Ruckus Soundsysdom Genre: Electronic, Hip Hop Style: Jazzy Hip-Hop, Future Jazz, Downtempo, Hip Hop, Leftfield Year: 2008

Sony Classical does have the 90s version in print, but....I ain't feeling that at all. I went to that site also, and I'm willing to wager that if you go there tomorrow, the release day will be that day.

It's blinding, not enlightening. Philly, eh? 2003, in Germany.

Why isn't the 1963 Julliard set currently on American (and hardly any!) CD? Sony Classical, WTF?!?!?!?!?!

I mean, when did "Acid Jazz" become "Neo-Soul". like....just like that, boom. That is totally illogical on the face of the evidence. It seems like a pretty clear case of a logical, linear multicultural evolution. But the word "Soul" brings it out of the global realm and into a very specific American frame of reference. Them Damn Dumb Americans at it again. Now we can has marketing and now we can has things to be ok that weren't so much before. There was a Monday interview online long ago (and long ago lost) where she said that when she was trying to get Verve to handle her releases in America that a BIG obstacle was that she considered her music Soul and Verve told her point blank no, you can't have Soul, Yellow don't have Soul. Call it something else. And that's as close to an exact quote as I can muster these days. So you know, everybody all yeahyeahyeah one world coming together and all that shit, but the obstacles are deeply entrenched and incentivized to dumb down EVERY fucking thing. And so they do.

Increasingly meaningless labels, oth, seem to be exponentially thriving!

I still look at Monday as the high bar for this whole direction. Not that she invented it, just that she showed.....a LOT of possibilities. They called her "Acid Jazz" then, but....really? I'm also thinking about other people, such as United Future Organization, Kyoto Jazz Massive (at times), 4Hero (at times), JazzaNova, etc, And some of the people who did their remixes. None of them really broke through in America, but the did (sometimes) feature quite good African-American female(often) vocalists. Drummers have (thankfully) evolved to the point where they can do it live with or without additional technology. So (once again) we've gotten a marketing term that creates a limited picture of what has really happened. And, dare I say, a little bit of racial pigeonholing that maybe works at cross-purposes to what might benefit the artists involved.

What about when it's non-African- Americans doing it? Retro-Neo?!?!?!

Still?

Ok, what genre is being used to pigeonhole stuff like this. My Pandora wants to know... I know what it used to be called but that was a while back...

https://voyagela.com/interview/meet-tomoki-sanders-tomoki-sanders-new-york-city/#:~:text=I was born in New,a music-lover from Japan.

Edited per request.

So that's Pharaoh Sanders' son on soprano, eh?

I like that

One of the great voices. RIP.

Fathead on bari btw

Caught it on Kanopy this evening and felt rewarded for having done so. Recommended!

What's this about a Milt Jackson + Abbey Lincoln record? Yes please!

New name to me as well.

Or watch TV?

They are, and it's a nice minor league park.