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Shelly Manne - Essence (Galaxy, 1977)

Yes! Alves is wonderful. His two records with the Brazilian Trio are excellent too.

Thanks for the link to the info on Joe Dodge, Jim. Very interesting stuff.

How about Will Vinson?

I've always liked his solos on "Balcony Rock", where he shows he could play the blues (though I can't think of any other examples) and Le Souk, where he goes East a few years before Miles and Coltrane did. Both on Jazz Goes to College. If I were limited to just one DBQ record, it would be Jazz Goes to College.

paul, what do you think of that hodes LP? I've never heard that one.

Interesting stuff about Konitz and Scientology. I had no idea. Even if Konitz was just dabbling with Scientology, it reminds me of something that I remember in Konitz's book. I remember him describing the experience of going to see a certain musician and then talking about how he was playing "wrong" -- and then sort of being offended by it in a moralistic sort of way. (Don't hold me to this b/c it's been a while since I read the book, but I think it was Art Pepper.) And it wasn't as if Konitz felt like the artist was taking a "different path" than his; it was an issue of right and wrong/black and white. (I remember reading about Tristano and his crew getting up and leaving in the middle of other musicians' sets -- as if the music were offending them, somehow reprehensible. A similar sort of thing.) Konitz is obviously an extremely intelligent, thoughtful guy -- and incredibly brilliant musician, one of my all-time favorites. But that stuff has always struck me as darn odd if not nutty.

LOL!!!

Funny. Konitz becomes most fascinating to me after his self-imposed break from jazz in the 1960s. Before that, for me, he was much more hit-or-miss. Some of it is great -- but some of it doesn't appeal to me. OTOH, I LOVE how Konitz's tone seemed to get wilder and woolier in the latter 60's and into the 70s. Those Milestone records are particularly wonderful, I think. And that's where the changes in Konitz's sound are really evident. By way of contrast, Desmond's sound seems much more consistent straight thru from start to finish. My very favorite Desmond records are the pre-Morello DBQ (at the beginning) and then jump all the way to end with the duos with Brubeck (1975: The Duets) and Live! (also from 1975). BTW: I do agree that Desmond's appeal has nothing to do with him being an intellectual or not. (Or my being an intellectual or not, for that matter.) From my point of view, it has more to do with whether I prefer oranges to mangoes or peaches to plums or X to Y. It's a personal preference. That's it.

I'd second that recommendation. Migenes is a sassy, sexy Carmen.

Amen and Amen! You know, I've never really thought about it before but there is quite a bit of commonality between them. To me, the biggest difference would in the way that Konitz reacts to what he calls "schmaltz." In his book, he throws that term around a lot, and it's BIG red light for him. Something to be avoided at all costs. And that attitude "toughens up" Konitz whole approach. On the other hand, you could call a lot of what Desmond did -- I'm especially thinking of the CTIs -- schmaltzy. Most definitely. But I also think that Desmond's music benefits from that sometimes -- as if he's trying to find something more purely beautiful and delicate than what Konitz is after. Sometimes Desmond misses -- and those misses end up sounding like bigger misses than Konitz's (at least to my ears). But when Desmond connects... phew. It's a thing of beauty.

Interesting insights, Allen. Thanks for sharing that.

I'd never gotten around to buying Donald Byrd's Electric Byrd. After listening to it regularly over the last few weeks via YT, I decided to give the SHM-CD version a try. I'm looking forward to hearing it. I love the music -- and sound-wise, I'm certain that it'll flog YouTube!

Not only the same session -- but the exact same photograph. They're just cropped a bit differently:

Thanks for sharing that, Justin. Makes me wish that I'd been there!!!

My LP is actually the Inner City-licensed version. But you get the idea.

Thanks for sharing, Jeff!!! For any who haven't already read it, I'd definitely recommend this book about Gennett records:

I'm not sure the horn section adds much. I'd rather just hear the trio. I dug the horn section. Thought they added some interesting textures. But I certainly can see how others might prefer the music "stripped down." You can get that same trio -- less the horns -- on En Route. I haven't gotten 'round to that one yet.

Amen to that. So much wonderful music...

I thought that this 2007 Scofield record was absolutely brilliant: I'm looking forward to hearing the new Sco/Lovano collaboration.

Thanks for sharing that, bluesoul. Those are some lovely recollections from Martin Speake.

Stuff sucks! I have the same problem. If your stuff is good, it doesn't suck!

Felser, These aren't CD, but the following downloads are available from Amazon. Very inexpensive too. Hannibal in Antibes (Enja) http://smile.amazon.com/Hannibal-Antibes-Marvin-Peterson/dp/B0031YYQH0/ref=sr_1_18?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1439315151&sr=1-18&keywords=Hannibal&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A625150011 Hannibal in Berlin (MPS) - to be released August 14th http://smile.amazon.com/Hannibal-Berlin/dp/B00W5X5BFE/ref=sr_1_1?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1439315195&sr=1-1&keywords=Hannibal+MPS Hannibal & the Sunrise Orchestra (MPS) - to be released August 14th http://smile.amazon.com/Hannibal-Sunrise-Orchestra/dp/B00W5X6X8I/ref=sr_1_2?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1439315195&sr=1-2&keywords=Hannibal+MPS

this post makes me painfully aware that English is not my first language. Well, it's certainly not written in the language of jazz! The language of jazz is but one of many dialects in the Babel that is music. Uli, you have a second language (maybe more!). Like most Brits I'm painfully aware that I can only manage one. As a mono-lingual American, I second that opinion. But I've also got to say that those idioms are positively delicious -- even if I don't understand all of them! "Two nations divided by a common language," eh?