Patrick

Popularity in the clubhouse and classiness are two different things. Giambi may be a great teammate, but that says nothing about class. His supposed apology for using chemicals that he ought not to have used was pathetic, embarassing, and a waste of everybody's time (...except maybe his legal representative's). Not much class there.

I'm not a NYY fan, and I don't really have an opinion about how classy that clubhouse is, but I wonder whether Giambi and Sheffield contribute to or diminish clubhouse classiness.

Mr. Spock Dr. "Bones" McCoy McCoy Tyner

...so long as he wasn't plugging Bose products

It's been over for awhile. Cavs? The sooner, the better (and don't let thoughts of Braylon Edwards/Kellen Winslow Jr get in the way--Charlie is getting Fryed). Not too excited about adding David Wesley or Scot Pollard, and why no takers for Damon Jones? I know, this belongs in another thread. Back on topic. Looks like Sowers can pitch, Sizemore is the real deal, and Hafner should/would have received some MVP votes if he hadn't suffered the hand injury (...at least as many votes as Ortiz).

yo heatwave (if you'll discuss anything else besides Bos/NYY) better double play combo Garland/Chambers/Jones or Hancock/Carter/Williams?

Keep saying it. He definitely belongs. Definitely hurt playing for several mediocre teams in Minnesota, Cleveland, Texas, Pittsburgh. I guess he'd have absolutely no chance, despite the best curveball around, if he hadn't had some postseason success in Pittsburgh (and Minnesota). Sells autographs on his own website: www.bertblyleven.com . At least he sent me one for free when I was in elementary school...

My order is finally waiting on my backstep. Hopefully, with the items I ordered...

Start collecting Moms Mabley. Excellent idea! Start with this one: http://www.dyxploitation.nu/issue2/mom1.html maybe chewy started there first, and then got to Hank...

I believe Drese is in the Nationals organization, but is/was injured most of this season. Two more dingers for Hafner tonight, though he did strike out with the bases loaded in the 9th.

Finally got a shipping confirmation for my Aug 1 order (#6318). 19 K2 titles shipped. 8 K2's did not. All my non-K2's shipped. My non-shipped titles all appear on kwadguy's list except for Everybody Likes Hampton Hawes/The Trio: Vol. 3 From kwadguy's list, my shipped titles include Everyone Digs Bill Evans and The Sound of Sonny.

Ain't that somethin. Travis Hafner probably won't be close in MVP voting because he plays on an under-achieving team from a small market (not on a superstation), but he should finish in the photo, 'specially if Ortiz wins. Acquired from the Rangers (essentially) for pitcher Ryan Drese.

I called Jackson last week about my Aug 1 order. He said to call him back Tuesday (today) if nothing had happened yet. So I called him this afternoon, as nothing has happened yet. When I got home from work there was a phone message from Jackson apologizing that they still hadn't shipped it, and a promise to call me with more updates (if status doesn't change on Wednesday, the 21st business day after I placed the order). I guess I should appreciate the "customer service", but I wish they'd just hire some (more) temporary help to work the blowout. Looks like I may be out of luck with respect to Hampon Hawes Vol 3 (among other titles). Patience.

including Dolphy 5 Spot??

I was driving home from dinner in the DC suburbs and checked to see if the Indians AM flagstation would come in on the car radio. It did, and it was play-by-play guy Tom Hamilton describing in a very subdued tone how "the horses had already left the barn", and that the score was 9 - 0 or 9 - 1 in the first inning. At that point, I switched over to tunes. Nice comeback, but it was the Royals. Anyone need a (supposed) second or third starter? Paul Byrd [Mark Shapiro's attempt at replacing Millwood] should be available. For those redecorating their rotations, he and Jason Johnson make a nice matching pair.

and now a brief historical remembrance (not related to Julio Franco)... It was 70 years ago today that 17-year-old Bob Feller made his first major league start for the Cleveland Indians against the St Louis Browns. He won 4-1, and struck out 15! Just one shy of the then current AL record, and two shy of the MLB record. Three weeks later he struck out 17 Philadelphia A's to tie the MLB record. That guy was tough. Bob Feller story ...and now back to discussing whether a team with twice the Indians payroll can/should compete against a team with 3.5X the Indians payroll. Manny in left, Coco in center, Grady "for the ladies" Sizemore ain't available...yet. Anybody need Aaron Boone for the push to the playoffs?

I just spoke to Jackson about my order (which includes no boxes and was placed on 8/1). He said they are still working on July orders. I asked if he knew anything about the availability of items that were advertised as available when I placed my order. He looked at my order and said the following titles were "just about out": Ugetsu, Lush Life, Traneing In, Dolphy 5 Spot, and "low": Explorations, Everybody Likes Hawes, Misterioso (closest to moving to above category). I think Monk Plays Ellington was also in this latter category. My order also includes, among others, Workin', Steamin', Relaxin', Everybody Digs Evans, Caravan, Coltrane, 4,5,6, Monk's Music, Know What I Mean?, Things are Getting Better, Pepper Meets the Rhythm Section. I identified several of these by name and he said they still had plenty of each of them. Given several instances of Dolphy 5 Spot not being delivered, I wonder how up to date these indications really are. I didn't ask specifically about Draper Tuba Sounds. Looking forward to that first listen...

Damn. Six of the seven cancellations listed by T.D. were in my order. At least I already acquired Outward Bound. Hope Monk's Music survives a few more days, as well as a few other K2's. Patience.

Yes they have been reissued (so to speak). The online source I used is waterrowbooks. I have an uncut sheet framed, as well as a pack to look at. In addition to Heroes of the Blues, there is also a Pioneers of Country Music set.

Hopefully justice will prevail. But I'm extremely confident that someone will get shortchanged in one manner or another. Given the prices no one should be too unhappy, but they appear way too disorganized not to mess something up somewhere.

Moving this thread to the top again for the list of K2's. [search function doesn't like short terms like "K2"]. I've largely ignored K2 reissues until this blowout sale, probably because I didn't think a sonic upgrade was worth the extra $. But now I am a bit more intrigued. Just how tough is it to come by these versions in the normal course? Previously I had acquired used copies of Soultrane, Misterioso, and Tenor Madness. I understand that these are supposedly limited editions of 10,000, and from the current Saxophone Colossus thread that that one is tough to track down. The following list are the K2 titles listed above that I believe were not part of the current summer blowout sale (I've left off Soultrane and Worktime because they appeared at least briefly, and a few of these may have been included but I don't recall seeing them). Cannonball Adderley in San Francisco ~ RCD-1157-2 Chet Baker Chet ~ RCD-1135-2 Count Basie Basie Big Band ~ PACD-2310-756-2 The Tony Bennett/Bill Evans Album ~ FCD-9489-2 Dave Brubeck Quartet Jazz at the College of the Pacific ~ FTB-3223-2 Kenny Burrell & John Coltrane ~ PRCD-8276-2 Benny Carter Jazz Giant ~ CCD-7555-2 Miles Davis and the Modern Jazz Giants ~ PRCD-7150-2 Bill Evans Portrait in Jazz ~ RCD-1162-2 Bill Evans Trio Sunday at the Village Vanguard ~ RCD-9376-2 Bill Evans Waltz for Debby ~ RCD-9399-2 Bill Evans New Jazz Conceptions ~ RCD-223-2 Ella Fitzgerald Ella Abraça Jobim ~ PACD-2630-201-2 Ella Fitzgerald & Oscar Peterson Ella & Oscar ~ PACD-2310-759-2 Tommy Flanagan/John Coltrane/Kenny Burrell The Cats ~ NJCD-8217-2 Red Garland Trio Groovy ~ PRCD-7113-2 Vince Guaraldi Trio A Boy Named Charlie Brown ~ FTB-8430-2 Coleman Hawkins ~ The Hawk Flies High ~ RITB-233-2 Thelonious Monk Brilliant Corners ~ RCD-226-2 Thelonious Monk and Sonny Rollins ~ PRCD-7075-2 The Wes Montgomery Trio ~ RCD-1156-2 Joe Pass Blues for Fred ~ PATB-2310-931-2 Joe Pass Virtuoso ~ PACD-2310-708-2 Art Pepper + Eleven Modern Jazz Classics ~ CCD-7568-2 The Quintet Jazz at Massey Hall ~ DCD-124-2 Sonny Rollins Way Out West ~ CCD-7530-2 Sonny Rollins Saxophone Colossus ~ PRCD-7079-2 Sarah Vaughan & The Count Basie Orchestra Send in the Clowns ~ PACD-2312-130-2 Using the catalog numbers on the Concord website, all but a few of these appear to still be available. [i know, place no reliance on what is conveyed on their website and/or wait an hour for a different answer.] The titles above that do not appear in their catalog (in this manner at least) are: Chet Baker Chet (no price offered), Benny Carter Jazz Giant, Coleman Hawkins The Hawk Flies High, Thelonious Monk and Sonny Rollins, The Wes Montgomery Trio, Art Pepper + Eleven Modern Jazz Classics, and Jazz as Massey Hall. (...So Saxophone Colossus is listed available at $14.98, but not pictured on the Rollins page.) May also be worthwhile noting that the list in the earlier post does not include Art Pepper Winter Moon, Kenny Drew Trio, and Bill Evans Trio At Shelly's Manne-Hole as K2's. Looks like Cannonball Adderley Sextet In New York is/was also available as K2.

Thanks Lon, Looks like my pending order includes 12 titles that you did receive (Blakey, Coltrane, Davis, Garland, Hawes), in addition to Dolphy 5 Spot. I shall remain optimistic, and try to remain patient. Looks like 20 business days to process rather than the advertised 10 - 12. So I have another week or week and a half (at least). Must remain patient, and in the meantime smile while listening to Hawes, and Drew, and ...

Lon, When did you place your second and final order? Did it contain any of the Coltrane, Evans, Monk K2's (whose apparent availability flickers as the "processing" days/weeks pass by)? --no need to share your complete order. My second and final order was placed Aug 1, and included several Miles, Monk, Evans, Coltrane titles. Hoping most of these arrive, but Dolphy 5 Spot appears unlikely now.

This does not sound good. I didn't order the Trane box, but have been watching the flickering availability of K2's that I did order (Ugetsu and Monk Plays Ellington look gone, as does Dolphy Five Spot, but they may flick back on as I continue the long "processing" phase of my order). An Evans title also looks to be fading out. So I will end up with an incomplete order. While the fumbling at Concord is frustrating, it really is no different than the big clearance sales at the other etailers. A third to a half of my J&R order went unfilled, even though later arriving (and smaller) orders included several of my missing titles. I thought a huge order would have been beneficial, but it wasn't. Same goes for the subsequent sale at the much loved (and now RIP) alldirect.com. This Here is Bobby Timmons still ain't here yet! While we can try to apply logic and/or infer the rules that are being used, there typically aren't (m)any for these things. Maybe this is a marketing/internet experiment being run by some Berkeley students. While this mishandling isn't a problem at other esteemed venues like Mosaic and Nessa Records (much love), I don't think either of those sellers has had a clearance sale quite as monumental (number of titles, percentage discount, number of orders) as the OJC blowout sales. ...Of course there still is no excuse for this. Can't wait for the next Concord blowout (way too much in the catalog to stop at just 200+ titles). When will we next repeat the mayhem, January 2007 with the post-holiday clearance sales? ...I'm just waiting for the man...

Sadly, buy 4 get 1 free is just not too compelling when they price most Blue Note midlines at $12.99. Perhaps this vulture will swoop down before prices fall to Concordian levels, but it ain't happening yet/now. They want to move product, how 'bout one of them $7.99 spectaculars they used to have every year or so (back in the day)...