Man with the Golden Arm

Is (was?) he related to Valerie? Well since that power of Google provides folks who don't know chit the ability to sound professorial ... I quickly find that you are right on, Jim! (I did preface this whole thing with the caveat that you guys are gonna set me straight. I've just brought in the homework and you guys are grading!

Anybody else hear this? You know, the intro to the retitled "Haitian Fight Song" thing on MINGUS MINGUS MINGUS MINGUS MINGUS? Well this track is live as in studio but who knows. This drummer has a knack for pawing those traps as well as some brushing here. And IMO he is the true star of this out 'quartet'. Back to #2 though...the disc I plucked this from features the same big band covering some raucous Mingus charts. B)

Well, in that small group of course and seen him within liners of the "master skinner" but rather I guess never paid enough attention. I'm going to sit in the corner for a time-out now.

I'd only made reference to him in my hints posting a page or so back but alas I had never heard of him or actually paid attention to the fact that he played on many of mike's skin thumping kindred idol's dates. It's funny that I originally had a latin large group cut in here with a female vocalist and him in the alto spot without even knowing he was on the session. I finally just did an AMG on him and see that he actually recorded on a big bander with Rivers as well.

Glad you shared that! Would you like to buy a champagne split as well? Funny that couw almost pinned this one to another piece from same artist that was a soundtrack to just about what you describe. My hint is that his lips are far more perpetually purced than Betty's.

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I've held off on any Japan for a while as the last time I checked I was slack-jawed at that PayPal rate. I've been curious about this as well. So I now only buy Japanese stuff from folks who have already done the leg work, Late.

Bill, you're on call for this one! While I put this thing together it doesn't mean that I know anything about most of this stuff.

Is that what they make you do over there? I think Zorn and seclusion together might be something that went away after the wall. He's really playing against his sur-name here. Should I say that it is and he's elsewheres here too. I guess you'll now be able to google up and answer. ps: couw's onto #3 (but it's discography is un-available) and we know you know #9. As it stands (and I'm not sure whether keeping tabs is the norm in the FAQ section) you all are onto many of these and have of course nailed quite a few directly. The links you've been throwing up are for the most part the ones. But mo' hintz: I think the tracks that need more sleuthing might now stand at 2, 8, 15, 19(one right on this alto player and the trumpeter is white). Many correct answers for the players on trax 5 & 6 (#5 is really a "gas" and #6 is more exotic). And track #7 is one cut from a badly needed re-issue but at least the artist has a website courtesy of board members. I have no idea who is on #8 save for the leader who is playing bass (maybe someone in the UK could give it up?). And #2 and #15 are related in maybe "one degree of separation"!

Nate, I'd love to get more of your take on Zorn here. You got him and he appears elswhere that I think you nailed too. His playing on track #4 doesn't seem to thrill you I know and frankly I agree that the Clark "Voodoo" on Black Saint is truly a must for any. I was going to toss on another of his from the Spillane sessions called "Skit Rhesus" where he really goes at it in his accessible post bop thrash. Aside from his Masada work, which seems to be becoming totally his own sole avenue for his soloing, I'd be curious for you, or anybody, to pick at him a bit more. I must confess that without that 'News For LuLu' disc from years ago that turn-on that was lying in wait with only a handful of BNs at the time might have never become a realization. The piano player is actually the leader of the date on #4. His relaxed excellence and comfort is the key to this cut. I really just love the bouncey-ness of it all, especially after it starts out with such a bright noir lick. Jim's classic quote here regarding it being "Monk with all the night-time removed" is perfect. The rest of the "orchestra" are the usual suspects with the very smiley guy, who for my money is the "trap god", being replaced.

I dig the shit out of it everytime I hear it. Oh man guys. This is what's great about this whole BFT thing. That cut has some big shoulders. I put it up after that brazen intro just because of how they both seem to have those huge Red Sea breaks in the mix of all that's going on. Track #2 seems inconsequentail at the start when butted up to the first one but it's how Mike splains it that it just goes over the top. How often do we get a cuica with a triple shot in a so called cheese laden tune? Trust me on this one that the arranger knows his stuff! And then #3 just picks up the ball and ...

At the onset of compiling this set I actually had "Fever" in this same spot as played by the New York Composers Orchestra with the saxophonist from the next cut. I love it when this stuff happens.

I don't know. What do you mean?...I'm getting Weizen to ring up Haldeman right now! I do think that the contest ends at 11:59:55.

D'OH!!!! N'OH! That stuff swings. This one swings a meat cleaver. Can I post the cover at least? artwerk by the pizz!

Hey, JimR what's with that hose on that melodica? Ouch, but sounds nice and cleansing, no? Makes me wonder whether old "Saxophone___V..." ever got his disc?

Man how you guys do it. First off Jim to know that that piano is in Van Gelder's from #13 is beyond me. Mikeweil just kindly sent me a very concise and thorough discog of this band moments ago. Nice!!! Yeah that's a melodica played incredibly. So now what is after the solo? A descarga or a montuno?? I wish I knew all those little latin idiosyncrasis. And then to know that Eddie Harris on #20 without all my great clues. Regarding those speakers Jim? That squealier saxophonist has more albums under his own name than is countable and the other tenor has one of those names from the Black Forest. No not George Adams although some of his finest work is under many of the Kip Hanrahan produced bits and pieces. Beautiful what he and Don could do. But that vocalist should be easily recognizable if I say you're right on with #10. #12 is so much talked about here and putting him in that Modern Jazz Quintet setting is probably the only reason it would toss you off. Most of you it didn't. (I did not do my homework as diligently as I should have as it was too late when I reviewed Dr. J's test. At least it's another cut.) As for the Badalamenti your nap forced you to be a bit slow with the posted guess I guess. After having listened to this comp a bit more I think I'm defintiely getting bored with what happened between tracks 16 and 19. Oh well that stream of conciousness is alarming (or not) when it is set in digits. *But now you can all concentrate on track #15: not a cinema track per se and there are two tenors, a soprano and an alto, each taking subsequent solos. Thing is that you have discussed some of these on past BFTs. The tune is written by someone who is less recognized as a tenor soloist and more so in the same parallel function in a way to the leader of track #2. In fact the cat each of these two oversaw is possibly their main reason for being.

And Big Al is onto #6 (nice pick) and right up with Nate if you jump Jackie or jump backward from #7 per your disclaimer.

Man if anybody gets #1 I'll be dipped! I will give a hint that this guy is from a Punk Rock background and it's not Barry Adamson. His first named band, of which I've never ventured to hear anything from, is something the extreme right fights for rights for. Frankly I don't even know who else is on the cut other than some girl who knows Lydia Lunch. Sex Mob is more of a real time band than this. It was really just for openers and that it lead well into a nice big band chart. But hey if you can twist to Alvin! then you can certainly dismember to this. Track #13 is NOT an accordion. But the altoist is named after little pickled somethings that fancy chefs put on everything from pizza to pesce. I've never heard of him before this.

When I lived in Rhode Island (that's row dye-lAnd) they had five feet of shelf space in every stowah dedicated to stuff that was but was not coffee (that's Kwauw-feee). And everybody drank it "regUlah" (that's cream an shugga).

C'mon, there's actually FOUR hints for #20 alone! Shall I be more forthcoming?

Could that be the issue with that guy with the cool beardo?

Saw a great sign taped to the window of a pizza joint in the North End, Boston this weekend. Had a xerox photo portrait of the recently furry Sadam festooned with a Yankees hat. The scribe underneath was "don't ya just hate this guy?"

And that means everybody knows everything. Oh man... Sorry for my semantics. My tongue was truly in my cheek up there but my smiley went to the next line. I have edited as I see many thought I was really getting smarmy. Thanks for setting me straight Mike on the LJQ. A long while ago I hunted that one up but somehow never cross referenced it back to the catalog listed and always figured it was only out on the BGP only as re-issue. They buried the second album on that two-fer with their semantics. Well I gave up and recently looked here and there particularly after seeing your posting in another thread. I saw something claiming that it's original vinyl was issued briefly and then pulled off the shelves for some sort of mfg error back in the sixties. Guess it made it quite a collectable? Will be good to have the whole deal and then some.

I've been reading through and noting some really great comments. My hints thus far: Track #1 -I know nothing of this guy's "real" thing and actually bought this disc, luckily for cheap, cause I liked the cover art! Track #2 -As Nate sez...just another version of a "Rinky Dink Big Band". Track #3 -is NOT West Coast although they have a west coast. Track #4 -is NOT Monk...of course or even a send up Monk tribute band although it is steeped with a Sphere "tea-ball". Track #6 -is NOT Mancini but you are onto it as it's the soloist who's tipping you off. Track #9 -revealed, well sort of. Track #10 -has some of who you say it is, can't miss that ubiquitous tenor, and the singer I do like on this - voice is no less creamy in his old age. Track #11 -is "bon panorama" NOT Buena Vista. Track #12 -is OBVIOUSLY NOT Dex although they ran into each other on a pont or two. Track #13 -relates more to Mongo than the other but a bit more Mongrel. Track #14 -not to spoil Oliver and others on this, but this cut is the ringer of the disc. You got the best one here IMO. Tracks #15-18 -all kind of morph together, don't they? Sort of like how all those solos morph together on #15. Track #20 -only mikeweil knows for sure and he didn't 'hint at underhanded things'. Granted the organist isn't pullin' out all the stops but that electrifying vocal is by someone who left jazz a lonnng time ago. And I think the only time he might have 'schitte on anybody's floor' was up near king ubu's pad. So sniff around folks.

Well it looks as if this BFT might be called on account of know one knowing anything, or caring, or the fact that everyone can't wait to get their hands on Jim Dye's double disc set. (just a post count tab) Kind of like lining up for the White Album when the Magical Mystery Tour is still fresh on the turntable. And if you can't stand it please let me know. I will say that you are all hovering around this so far but no clearance to land as of yet. Maybe Nate is the best on mark and on remarks. The only recognizables thus far are from that big old collection that I do not have (mikeweil and couw hit those). Another thing is that there is a very loose film connection going on here and there but it's the players that you guys talk about all the time here and there. One composer / conductor / leader is represented here and has been identified but not on the cut he is responsible for. Yes, Big Al, # 3 is available, as most of this stuff is, but only on a triple disc set that for me only holds up for a little while. It is a "tease" though. My surprise is that not a soul has identified the Wusthof sharpener on #1. Lord only knows? But I do love that bit of kitchen sonics, right down to twisting the drumsticks off the carcass. Maybe I need to post a "Hey Sangrey Thread"??