Man with the Golden Arm

I got this BOX at DGA ages ago when it was in the twenty something range. (Now much more expensive and I don't feel all that necessary.) But it is the only place, I believe, where some cuts from 'Strip Tease' are available. The two Mercury comps of his afro-cuban work, as well as a more recent "Gainsbourg Percussions" that is a compilation and not the EP original, are excellent. The film box has a huge bit of his later work that is in that wacky Morricone spacey pop genre. If JIP does a Jazz et Cinema 5 they should represent a greater body of Serge's jazz work such 'Strip Tease', 'L'Eau a la Bouche' and 'Comment Trouvez-Vous ma Souer'? -all recorded from '59 - '63. While he lead with his nose in his early afro-jazz-works I believe the other part got the best of him from here out.

Some free association reveals this??

Start beatin' those jeans on a rock down by da river. I do a fair share of the task and always, no matter if it's semi-delicates or cold water only, put the Tide (yes, that one seems to work best) in the washer and go with 'hot' h2o for a minute with the machine on lo water and let it agitate to mix up the soap. Then proceed with the regular chore and even turning back the dial to start the agitation mode again with the tub full. I find that mixing it up before putting in the goods keeps the detergent spotting down and probably helps it to rinse away a bit better. And what b-3er sez... less is more. I'm sure glad I'm not anally retentive or anything. And I find that if I play that 'QO' CD I just received the clothes virtually clean themselves!

Not photography but add this gem to the table:

I hope you all have enjoyed the latest BFT. I tried my best to make a compilation that read through as a sort of wave form but think it got a bit more out of hand on the front end, then proceeded to fizzle out a bit in the fourth quarter. I concentrated on the segues to get a good flow going across the entire mix while keeping it sneaky, by not revealing too much and by including players that are frequently assessed on this board, and not just dribble it into areas of complete obscurity. As I prefaced in my opening caveat: I am not bringing a vast knowledge of these cuts or cats included here and knowing the heads on board I really just hoped for some honest opinions and deeper knowledge of what was going on. Please do post up some goodies as I look forward to knowing even more about the endless variety of chit I listen to. Please insert your own smileys at random. Here are the answers to Blind Fold Test #7: Track 1 : "Life in the Green House Effect" - Steroid Maximus is Jim Thirlwell with Lucy Hamilton. Big Cat Records. 1991 UK. I bought this disc about a decade ago after hearing a snippet of it in a used record store. I was really only attracted to it initially by the cover artwerk, and was pleasantly surprised by the sonic antics that are going on on a few of it's "jazzier" cuts. While I know nothing of this Thirlwell character or his regular running grouping - "Feotus", it's easy to surmise that he's out of his mind. Bombastic might be too subtle for this over the top swinger. It's amazing that so much noise can actually come together as a raucous big band chart that really has rooting in some Krupa or Jsngry's Baby Dodds, well maybe. The use of found stuff is all over these days but certainly not over done here. Electronica horn section with some knife sharpening underneath lead right into some great burbling bowels of beezlebubb sludge. I think of one of R. Crumb's 'yeti women' doing some exotic belly-dancing in a setting painted by Hieronymus Bosch. Track 2 :"Va Va Voom" - Gil Evans from the 'Absolute Beginners OST'. Featuring (I think) Gil Evans (cond); Chris Hunter (as); Stan Sulzman (ts, ss); Ray Russell (g); John Surman (bari) and many more. Virgin Records Ltd. UK 1986. (Evans w/ band featured on 4 cuts and as arranger on 5 others) A critics pan-fest but some great cheesy pop and over the top frantic jazz. Only out for a spit, the recording features Gil on just a few cuts heading up a band from the UK that made an album at the same time as he was taking up the scoring and musical direction charge for this 60's London era movie. Mike Weil has described this percussion within the discussions thread and I would love more. I thought it was great that Randy's test included a Gil that I could not place and that this one seemed to confound everybody, guess when the artist is doing it for the money, maybe, it might have that adverse effect. I'd really like to know who is all over this in the rhythm section? The cuica yapping is worth the price of a rental. I did hint that this relates in a way to a later cut (#15) but not really. Track 3 :"Crazy Horse Swing" - Serge Gainsbourg w/ Alain Goraguer and Band from the movie "Strip Tease". Cinema De Serge Gainsbourg box. Original EP on Phillips from the film by Jaques Poitrenaud. Paris 1963. What can be said here but this is an absolute favorite of mine. Couw was on the money here venturing that this was Serge without it having his typically recognizable afro approach. The conga driving the beat is so understated and the horns so bawdy that I just can't get enough. Even that little spy geetar just sets this into a great mood enhancer. I wonder where this piece was used in this movie but can only imagine that it was cued up during some Go Go at Le Crazy action. I'd definitely toss another franc in the garter to have a few more minutes of this piece. Track 4 :"The Three Doors" - Steve Beresford : his piano and orchestra 'Signals For Tea' on Japan DIW Avant 039. Steve Beresford (p); Dave Douglas (tr); John Zorn (as); Greg Cohen (bs); Kenny Wolleson (dr). Recorded at Baby Monster. NY 7/1994 This lite swinger is from the pen of Steve Beresford, British jazz wack (David Toop, Evan Parker etc...) and soundtrack interpreter, compose and multi-instrumentalist. The album is wholly made up of the obscure lyricism of Andrew Brenner and this is one of two outstanding instrumental cues. This here is the Masada Quartet with Joey Baron being replaced. Fun stuff even though some might quibble at Zorn's output here. I think it's just nice to hear him going at it with respect to the band and not playing so completely within his Borsch belt narcissism. I love Jim's remark about this being 'Monk with all the night-time removed'. Douglas plays beautifully as well on this and I think Beresford's piano is steeped in the Monk but the bag was removed before letting it get too strong. (Can someone please tell me from what song the melody is based?) If anyone has more to dish on Beresford I'd love to hear. The fact that he played with another Mancini hornist Tony Coe lead to my association here. Track 5 :"Black Nightgown" - Gerry Mulligan / Art Farmer Jazz Combo from 'I Want To Live' OST. Johnny Mandel w/ Gerry Mulligan (bari); Bud Shank (as, fl); Art Farmer (tr); Frank Rosolino (tmb); Pete Jolly (p); Red Mitchell (bs); Shelly Manne (dr). United Artists. Los Angeles 5/1958. Another groovy gas of a tune. A night out before hitting the chamber has got to have some smokey cool mixed with a little butch-wax on wax. Many were onto this one but named Mulligan on other tunes rather than here. Nate and a couple others hit the Mulligan and the Rosolino sound (whatever that sound is?). Great track that certainly touches a bit on those Mancini does the dick sides. This was essentially a companion album to the sound track. (They even out out a version that I have with the MJQ etc doing "Odds Against Tomorrow" on the B-side.) Track 6 :"Blue Jungle" - Les Baxter from 'Jungle Jazz' with Plas Johnson and The Les Baxter Orchestra. found on the essential Rhino double "The Exotic Moods of Les Baxter". Los Angeles 1963. This follows up that Pink Panther tip with a more jazz purr than the typical post Denny exotica that was Baxter's cash kitten. Most all that ventured a guess here were on knowing that big smooth Plas Johnson sound. I do not know who the other players featured as soloists might be but the flute and trumpet solos are meow. Dig that last minute swagger here that brings this up to a fine closer that can be followed by just about anything. Track 7 :"Cleopatra's Needle" - Ronnie Ross 'Cleopatra's Needle' taken from Impressed w/ Gilles Peterson. Ronnie Ross (bari); Les Condon (tr); Art Ellefson (ts); Bill LeSage (vb); Spike Heatly (bs); Ron Stephenson (dr). Original album "Cleopatra's Needle" Fontana Records. London 6/1968. Couw brought us Tooter's website to honor the great baritone (un)known to all for his solo on Lou Reed's 'Walk on the Wild Side'. This is just a cooker and Bill LeSage and Les Condon are crazy good here. For me it's the duo in that back that pump this thing into overdrive. Ross is all over that big boy! Another British jazzer who is obviously in serious need of the Mosaic Select at the least. Please, someone go on about this piece. I have yet to tire of it. Track 8 :"Elusive Samantha" - Johnny Hawksworth. ...from a disc on Plastic records called 'Morphine: Mambo Jazz Club'. I tried my best to find out more about this piece and this composer / bassist. All I can come up with is some snippet British TV show soundtracks that are here and there and widely unavailable. He might very well play the vibes on here too, a bit of 60's overdubbing? As you can tell I dig a little noir-ish groove as is apparent here. This cut goes down swell with a little of Tubby's "Beathaven" or even some Victor Feldman vibe. Be great if someone knew a bit about this gentleman? This serves as the end to "Side 1" so go pick that needle out of the groove and ... Get ready to rhumba! Track 9 :"Get Ready to Rhumba" - John Lurie National Orchestra. 'Blue In The Face' OST. John Lurie (as); Calvin Weston (prc); Billy Martin (dr). Luaka Bop Records 1995. Known right off the bat by one (soothing music for couws) and thought to be Benny Carter or Johnny Hodges on a bender. Well it's fake jazzer John Lurie and a couple of men with stix. Not your usual fare from the Lizards' (by far the ass-shakinist band around for the neuvo bohos) leader and evidently he had the line on the whole score for this very small house movie but got into a snit with David Byrne's Luaka Bop heads so the project was taken out of his ever pursed lips and he was given this minute. As it kicks off the second side to this disc we get set to shake it up a little even though that little-latin-loopy-lilt has been setting us up all along. Track 10 :"Shadow Song (Mario's In)" - Kip Hanrahan 'Vertical's Currency'. Jack Bruce (vx, p); David Murray (ts); Mario Rivera (bari); Ned Rothenberg (ts); Andrieau Jeremie (ts); Richie Vitale (tr); Lew Soloff (tr); Steve Swallow (bs); Milton Cardona (cnga); Kip Hanrahan (prc); Ignacio Berroa (dr) etc... American Clave 1010 / IRS / JustinTime. NYC 2/1984. Surprised that Jack Bruce was not known immediately as his voice is 'so damn sweet to me' ? And his piano playing as credited here is wonderful. Granted Kip's 'other' lyrics are supposed to emit that sweat and slurp of the barrio but they can be a bit non-sensicle after some time and I'd much rather hear them in Spanish or Portuguese so I don't have to know what he's talking about. But his ability to gather forces like this and have them work at 90% is better than most crack outfits in this genre. Tight as boogaloo Banlon. Murray and Rothenberg blow some hot stuff along with some real dealers like Mario Rivera at the bari this time. Milton Cardona, Kip's main timekeeper, ain't gonna have to wind his watch after this! This is one to crank up as loud as it will go and just pretend that it's really hot outside. Truly as his label describes: American Clave! Mr. Bauza would be proud. Track 11 :"Cha Cha du Loup" - Serge Gainsbourg 'Les Loups Dans la Bergerie' Roger Guerin (tp); Georges Grenu (alto); William Boucaya (bari); Pierre Michelot (bs); Chritian Garros (dr). Plus some unknown congueros? Philips EP from Jazz in Paris "Jazz et Cinema V3" Universal Music France. 10/1959 Paris. Some short little piece to pick up where Mario leaves off. Right into a nice cha cha or a montuno as Mr. Weil calls it. Couw had tossed in a piece from this on his BFT and that's how I was able to toss a ringer. Cowbell clave for the crazy wolf!! Track 12 :"Swing 39" - Barney Wilen 'Jazz Sur Seine'. Barney Wilen (ts); Milt Jackson (p); Percy Heath (bs); Kenny Clarke (dr); Gana M'Bow (prc). Philips LP reissue from Jazz in Paris. 2/1958 Paris. On fire here. Who baby this is one hot swinger and considering how crazy good this is it's curious as to whether John Lewis got the 'Quartet's' bow ties too tight. This MJQuintet has been discussed previously and it looks as if all might now have this...or else! Neuf said! Track 13 :"Rip A Dip" - Juan Amalbert's Latin Jazz Quintet. Juan Amalbert (cnga); Bobby Capers (as); William Coleman (mldca); Arthur Jenkins (p); Bill Ellington (bs); Ernest Newsom (dr, timbls). from 'Hot Sauce' New Jazz (Prestige). RVG New Jersey 5/1960. We now cross the pont over to the Latin Quarter ... but wait what's that guy with a Melodica and a hose doing under this bridge. It's the portable organissimo, perfect for that holiday down the Seine. Having only heard Bobby Capers on some Mongo Santamaria discs I was so glad I tossed this cut into the mix to prompt some unexpected discussion. Mike Weil is a huge fan of the LJQ and he sent me an exhaustive discography that he has compiled. Great stuff and I can't wait to hear more from this group. Track 14 :"Suicide Waltz" - John Zorn 'Filmworks XIII: Invitation to a Suicide'. Rob Burger (ac); Marc Ribot (g); Trevor Dunn (bs); Kenny Wolleson (dr, vbs). Tzadik Archival Series 7341. Brooklyn NY 9/2002 Nice little eastern euro sounding piece from one of many Film sets in the Zorn discography. Rob Burger, who is heard on accordion here, heads up the Tin Hat Trio. Not familiar with them and rally only tossed this in as a lead for the accordion. Simply beautiful tune with everybody just kindly comping along and allowing the squeezebox and doorbells some room. Track 15 :"Heart On My Sleeve" - Kip Hanrahan 'Coupe de Tete'. Chico Freeman (ts); Teo Macero (ts); Dave Liebman (ss); Orlando DiGiroland (acc); Carlos Ward (as); Cecil McBee(bs); Victor Lewis(dr). American Clave 1007 / IRS / JustinTime. NYC 11/1980-2/1981. Penned by Teo Macero, who takes the second solo, from a short little album from Kip's early days. I was going to toss up the more sultry 'India Song' by Carla Bley but figured we wouldn't hear from Mr. Sangrey for a long time. This one goes in just to confuse. (And see that I tossed in two or more things that relate to Miles while turning my back at the same time.) I'm hoping that ya'll will talk a bit more about what you think now that you know who's who. Track 16 :"Pine Float" - Angelo Badalamenti -'Twin Peaks : Fire Walk With Me". Badalamenti (p, vb); Al Regni (ts); Kinny Landrum( kyb); V Bell, (gtr); Buster Williams (bs); Grady Tate (d). Warner Bros. Los Angeles 1993. You guys thought this was a bore but if you just imagine me with longer hair hiding behind your couch you'll soon be up dancing to Pennsylvania Six Five Thousand. This groove picks up on Audrey's snapping good juice and harkens a day when Donna Hayward had meat on the bones. And you can't go wrong with the rhythm mates can you? Track 17 :"Going To Dinner" - John Zorn 'Filmworks I:She Must be Seeing Things'. Marty Ehrlich (ts); Anthony Coleman (kyb) Wayne Horvitz (org); David Weinstein (fx); Mark Dresser:(bs); Bill Frisell (gtr); Carol Emanuel (harp); Bobby Previte (dr). Wave/EVA 2024. Radio City Studios NYC 12/1986 A great band that Mr. Anger put together for one of many film sessions. I love Marty's playing here and agree I could also do without the SFX but had to bring us down from all that accordion and stringy stuff. Track 18 :"Thieves Nocturne" - Thieve's Quartet - John Zorn 'Filmworks III'. Dave Douglas (tr); John Zorn (as); Greg Cohen (bs); Joey Baron (dr). Tzadik Archival Series. NYC 7/1993. The Masada Quartet before they settled into their current klezm-ornette model. Or even on a name. It does have a certain stripped down Milesian quality to it. A beautiful little breather that was a sign of Zorn to come. I guess this could have ended the set but I tossed up a couple others jest for fun Track 19 :"Police Story Blues" - Mark Helias 'Desert Blue'. Marty Ehrlich (ts); Herb Robertson (tr); Mark Helias (bs); Anthony Davis (p); Pheeroan akLaff (dr). enja Records. NYC 1989. Some real gut-bucket going on with Marty (obvious to Nate) and Herb Robertson (Tom Storer placed him on the elusive #4) getting all down with a nice Roux de Tete. Some sawankeh delights going on here and I think Anthony Davis plays it pretty darn good. Someone here sez Helias is his main cat but I can't remember who? Bonus Track-not on original LP cofiguration :"My Brothers" - Hanrahan's Conjure: 'Cab Calloway Stands in for the Moon'. Eddie Harris (ts, vox); Don Pullen (org); Elysee Pyronneau (g); Milton Cardona (prc); Robert Ameen (dr) text of Ishmael Reed.American Clave 1015 / IRS / JustinTime. NYC 1987/88. Don Pullen! Don Pullen!! A sweet little ditty for all the Organissimo brothers and sisters. No matter what, this guy ... "the electrifying"..., still keeps coming back for more, as we all do, cause it ain't all over at midnight. I'll try to post up some links later.

Mike...no compliement intended then. B) I was only drawing back to the fact that I wanted to do what you are saying but got slapped down. I'm not going to 'fish' for the exact post within another BFT thread. Tom...surprising that Zorn's main charge a decade and beyond ago was that he could toss out really great "jazz". I'd rally like to hear him in more situations where this is proven but he's the arteest. I'm sure Pollock might have sat around the table and and drew fuzzy puppies when no-one was watching. Now for some answers!

You are more than Mr. BFT.

Yes it is impossible to calculate but I still think that if the compiler waits a week or so after his initial mailing to the farthest reaches and maybe even knows, via communication, that a majority have gotten the disks then he or she begins the initial "discussion" thread post. My only strong opinion is that it is decision of that BFT 'testor' to begin the next phase. After all shouldn't the one who has responsibly pulled it all together be given that perogative? Shoot, I guess if it's the way that DG expressed, if somone knows all the tunes they might as well just go ahead and finish it off by starting their own "testee answers thread".

I could not agree more. The compiler- does the compiling, burning, packing and mailing - and tries to get everything to arrive around the globe within a bracketed window. Just for the record I sent out the discs as soon as a large batch arrived at their jumpng point in Europe. As it was nightime over there, the discs here went out pre dawn. One would like to think that packages sent within the domestic states would take about the same time as those customs crossing a few borders in Europe. Not so. Our mail service was just coming down from the post Valentines Day sugar buzz and are always quick to yell massacre if they can't putz around for a few days after a big push. It might be suggested that as soon as all the riders get their steeds into the starting gate the compiler gives the go ahead for discussion. (Granted those participants who sign up after the discs have been sent in bulk might be a bit behind but they still get them in due time for discussion.) What I was told is that the compiler has absolutely no say so once he sends those discs on their way and that whoever gets dibs first fires the gun. Complete disregard and plain silly.

Considering it takes much longer to get a CD into the remote regions of Michigan than over the drink we should consider a common discussion start date regardless of when we get the discs, to give everybody an equal chance. Sorry Bill about that disc not getting there. I sent the stateside discs out at once on the morning of the Prez Day holiday as I just got the taag that tjobbe had receive the half a dozen or so over yonder. I wanted to do just as Mike has said but NOOOOO!! mr. BFT himself said 'sorry, guy you can't do that...it's not up to the compiler to start it whenever he feels comfy' nya nya nya... or some chit like that! And the only time I like to be called 'guy' is through the other side of the medicine cabinet.

"I can't look at hobbles..." although these fleecy ones ain't bad.

That's the one. You got's it! Yeah, I love that version on the Naked City disc. I had heard little of Johnny Mandel's work prior to that but Zorn put me on the hunt for the real deal.

So be it. "Mutly" has snickered and I will post them on Sunday! Exit stage right!!

I've got "side one's" answers all set and would post them if I knew you really had to have them now. There are still about a dozen folks who have yet to post. I have seen some of them perusing and most all of the others have been on the board recently. That might be just the way it goes though. I'll allow one of the alpha-males to come and pee on the other side of the rock before I post up the answers thread.

Don't do that. Let the State of California pleasure you. You got who it is on that bari! Is that a compilation you list? It's from here.

yeah that's almost him. his nickname was "fat", supposedly started everyday with espresso and a shot of sambucca. grrrr

Well considering how you all shake me up here I have been quickly devising my answers. Just to please a Morretti drinker at that (good stuff and the label model must have been my wife's late grandfather). Up to about five so far. Here's how I see it: 1-No one knows #1 except billyboy but he didn't quite hit it excactly. 2-Are you guys going to answer #2 or not? 3-couw's got this #3 he thinks. 4-Nate's onto this but tell me who the piano player is and you win a prize. 5-was hit on part by Nate but a few have given props to the bari on other cuts he's not on. 6-Pink Panther permeates this cut with the soloist that several have nailed down. I've got a soft spot for this flavor of cheese. 7-couw again! 8-who knows?...he's some british kids cartoon jingle jazz guy... there might be some 'avengers' connection but i don't know that. hopefully one of ya'll will let me know. 9-i've given hints all over here but couw again!! it's a trio setting. 10-yes this is solved within the thread. Tom Storer is right in how this guy's lyrics tend to sound high school after a time. but i love them here! 11-couw and mikeweil on this and the next. another cut from same was the intro to bft 5. 12-this disc should be required! if you don't have it ... i did see after the fact that a cut from this confounded mr. sangrey. 13-i wish mikeweil knew more about this band... i think he's heard of them before. 14-not european but maybe...who's playing guitar here??? the drummer's from #3. 15-with all that coleman vs farrel stuff you can do this...iknow i couldn't but i got the answers. and the soprano??? you're all better at this than this. B) and it really does somehow relate to #2. and #10. 16-completely soundtrack here. I think Jsngry had this guy but on the wrong cut. 'killer bob' on the vibes. 17-saxophonist here is on #19 too. another film score that Nate got. 18-does have that 'ascenseur pour itchyfoo' to it. almost all players here appear earlier but i threw it in for that Miles-y ref to compliment #s 2 and 15. 19-better Nate than... this is one gritty thing here. sorry that the piano player is not top shelf to some. it's the bassist's date and the trumpet player was on the same scene before the guy from 3 and 18. 20-you know this now. man I just cracked myself up with that long clue about this one a few pages back mikeweil had his sound on both instrument and vocal. and Jsngry had it up his alley all along. can someone tell me who is on the organ without looking though. he is playing rather reserved here as he probably didn't want to break it. ...answers I gots and some are ready to go.

I am working them up as we type. I will hope to post later today.

Yes. The moderator who sends out the disks is looking for reactions to the music. You don't really know if they are hoping you guess right or hoping you guess wrong. But you can be sure thay want to hear from you. If you don't like something, say so. Often that contributes to a lively discussion. But please post something about what you just listened to. Seems to me to be a great divide between sign-ups and feedback from the recipients of the BFTs. Even in looking back to the first half a dozen tests thus far one sees a great amount of discs being sent out, especially those twofers, and about a 60% discussion or reply ratio. For me as soon as that BFT hit the box I had it in the player and racked my wee wittle bwain trying to figure out what's what as well as simply enjoying the new sounds. I know my feeling is that I owe it to the compiler to give at least a check in within the discussion thread or even give it the standard short shrift if it is not one's "cup of tea".

Figures zat Herr Doktor vould get better Viagra Spam than I!

Well if she ran out on Wednesday morning all juiced up on a quadruple apostlatte' she was obviously just "dying to see it".

OK here is my hint on #2. I have already told that it relates in one degree of separation to one of the horn players (soloist / composer) on #15. The band in question playing on #2 is not his usual suspects and I am certainly not as well informed about all of the incarnations of this leader's various bands as you all have proven to be on prior BFTs (this was in place already and lo and behold he appeared on BFTs past). Maybe the "rinky-dinkyness" is that it was not recorded on "home turf" and the actual medium that this arranger was in charge of for this session turned out to be more of a spoof than anything to be taken seriously. Maybe it was the food. This way OOP CD, which I purchased as an import right when it came out and I really can't recall why, is a lot of fun when you get past a couple of very lame over the tops by a well known husky-eyed pop star. If I say it's a soundtrack...

Still fifteen or so of the recipients have yet to respond but maybe that's the norm. Seems that the US postal service took about five days to get these things across the country. There are plenty of hints. Should there be more?? Looks like only six have really been identified within the thread links. Many of the players have been found out with some misplaced to other tunes than the one's they are on. Waiting for deus62 to get on board. He said he knew a bunch!

You found me out! Who cares about Archie Shepp anyway! :rsly:

Having rekindled a recent Barney Wilen, Jazz in Paris etc... jones courtesy of this board I am curious as to what this title might be like. I have only heard a spit of Shepp and have been exposed only to his more outward bounding work. Any rec here??