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  2. Everything Sonny.

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    We got a Sonny Rollins straat (street) in the city of Utrecht. It’s next to Miles Davis straat, a few blocks away from Lester Young pad (path) and also not far from Ella Fitzgerald plein (square). Never been there but that is one groovy neighborhood :excited:

  3. Wynton Marsalis

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    2 hours ago, Scott Dolan said:

    Nah, not really. Sun Ship, First Meditations, and Godspelized all sound incredibly similar to each other (other than Ware's tone is harsher, more in line with Shepp, for example). And all three are phenomenal recordings. Actually, Sun Ship and First Meditations are my two favorite Jazz albums of all time. So it's not as though I'm casting Godspelized in a negative light. I think that's just the way some wish to see it. But claiming he's doing something entirely different than the 60's Avant Garde artists that influenced him is a stretch, IMO. That would be like saying Wynton Marsalis is doing something entirely different than the 40's-50's artists that influenced him. 

    Haha I really disagree with you. Maybe we compare in a different way. Sure they do not differ in the way that, say Louis Armstrong and Roy Campbell do. After all Trane blows what people call free jazz and so does David S. Ware. So they build on the same concept. But the bands and the music itself is very different from each other. 

    Trane uses more melodics and changes than Ware and his overblowing is different. Tyner is a completely different pianist than Shipp. Tyner is more based in the tradition, has got a different pulse and uses more changes and blues scales. Shipp uses more clusters, creating a wall of sound like Cecil Taylor or Bobby Few. I personally think Parker is more out there than Garrison, Garrison sounds more thoughtful using Arabic music as an inspiration, while Parker uses more expression. And Elvin Jones and Guillermo Brown could not differ more from each other. Elvin Jones keeps a tight rhythm and strong pulse, while Brown floats more on the music itself. So the influence is there but they are not two of the same kind.

    For me the same as you: I regard both of the groups as fantastic jazz quartets. And Sun Ship is my all time favorite jazz album. 

     

  4. EmArcy Records

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    I don’t know very much about the Emarcy label but Clifford Brown’s recordings are legendary of course. Also, my favorite recordings by Chet Baker are on Emarcy. His sessions ‘In Paris’ are so incredibly beautiful and I enjoy those more than much of his more popular recordings. The boxed set to me has too much alternates, false starts etc. so I bought the 4 volumes on cd instead. And that is some beautiful music!

  5. Wynton Marsalis

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    1 hour ago, clifford_thornton said:

    I am with you all the way.

    I'm also unconvinced by the statements here that Ware is (or was) a modern-day Coltrane-like figure. That's very narrow-minded as well. It really galls me that people can't really accept musicians on their own terms. Sure, there are forebears and influences but when someone has been doing something for like 40 years, you'd think they'd be allowed their own significant identity and body of work to speak entirely for itself.

    Definitly. Of course Ware is influenced by Coltrane, but almost every modern sax tenor player is to some degree. I do not see that as something negative. More important to me is that the saxophonist himself is creative and original, and Ware certainly is. His masterpiece on DIW ‘Godspelized’ is such another cup of tea than let’s say: ‘Sun Ship’ by Coltrane. The quartet with Shipp has such another sound, than Coltrane’s. A comparison to Frank Wrights ‘Unity’ Quartet with Bobby Few is more likely to me. But why should we compare anyway... in my opinion all these artists are unique and wonderful in their own right and I enjoy them all.

  7. Wynton Marsalis

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    Personally, I don’t like people that always categorize and think in boxes in a negative kind of way. On this forums, I see mainly people that just love music and talk about it. On other forums, in Dutch mainly you are supposed to pick a side.

    Side one: everything that smells of freejazz and was made after 1960 is semi-intellectual nonsense by musicians that cannot play a single right note. Jazz is something that was made before 1960 and is played only by musicians that run over the same scales again and again. I    think that this is the side that mr. Marsalis feel most comfortambly in.

    Side two: the only interesting jazz was made after 1960 by musicians that play freejazz. Everything before is outdated and not interesting anymore. 

    I don’t fit in these two sides and I do not want to. I have always hated people like Marsalis and Stanley Crouch, because of their segreationist views on ‘what is jazz’ and ‘what is not jazz’. And I must say that it has made me prejudiced about Marsalis’ music: I still don’t feel like listening to it, while he probably has made some nice records. Shame on me for that.

    I don’t like narrow mindness on music that itself is so free and creative. It baffles me to read Bob Weinstocks words on the late Coltrane in ‘Fearless Leader’ liner notes. According to Weinstock John lost his way after ‘A Love Supreme’... Unbelievable. Anyway to me jazz is Louis Armstrong but also Cecil Taylor. It is Prez and it is also David S. Ware. It is Jelly Roll but also Anouar Brahem. It is a creative force: some things I like, and others I don’t.

  8. How do you define genius , as it pertains to jazz?

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    To me a genius is original, skillfull and creative. I mainly like ‘original’ voices in jazz, people that differ themselves from the rest. There are people that I dig and also people that I do not dig, but still consider a genius. 

    I personally don’t dig Lennie Tristano, Anthony Braxton and Lee Konitz. But I do consider them to be genius. I appreciate what they have meant/still mean to jazz and I can see what they are doing but I just don’t feel it.

    Geniuses that I do feel:

    Hawk, Bird, Lady Day, John Coltrane, Mal Waldron, Monk, Archie Shepp, Steve Lacy, McCoy Tyner, Dollar Brand, Kidd Jordan.

    And of course much more...

  14. Kalaparusha Maurice McIntyre

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    I'm glad I found this forum. It's fantastic to hear these kind of stories. People on this forum that have met and seen the musicians I love. I must confess: I'm very jealous of you all I was born in 1990 in The Netherlands, so most of the legends I like passed away before I even walked this earth. And most of the legends live overseas. I would almost buy me a ticket to New York to meet Kalaparusha, just to talk with him. In an environment like this in Holland, you got the feeling that all the import things in jazz happen(ed) elsewhere and in another time.

    Though i'm still proud to say that I have seen Sonny Rollins, Archie Shepp, Pharoah Sanders, David Murray, Charles Gayle, Cecil Taylor, Rashied Ali, Peter Brotzmann, Hamid Drake to name a few

  15. Kalaparusha Maurice McIntyre

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    I found this beautiful documentary about this saxophonist, who always has been a bit underrated. Now he plays in the subway. Does anyone know if the introducing solo piece is ever issued on cd?

    If the video does not work you probably have to switch to the other media player on the website. The button is in the right under the video.

    Worth watching! Maybe some thoughts on this saxophonist?

  22. What about... Robert Ruff?

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    I was adding the Baystate catalogue to a dutch music website, similar to rateyourmusic.com and found an album by an artist whos was till now unknown to me. His name is Robert Ruff and as it seems to be, he has only released one album as a leader and was a sidemen on one other record. I listened to a sample on youtube and I was amazed by his playing and composition. I ordered his album Shaza-Ra immediatly.

    Here's the sample:

    Has anyone heard about him? Anyone who digs his music too and my most important question:

    Does anyone know anything about what happened to him? Any biography information?

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