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When I saw him in Leuven in 2018 I thought that might be the only and last opportunity to see him perform live. But upcoming Saturday I will see him perform again in Utrecht: Abdullah Ibrahim, 89 years old. I assume he will play for a small hour, solo piano, his well known repertoire like he did in 2017. That was one of the most intimate concerts I’ve ever witnessed. Looking very much forward to it!

Yes they do. It’s a huge problem and way more common with men than with woman. The whole me too discussion made very clear how big this problem is. I can’t remember denying this anywhere as this was not what we were talking about Clifford. We were discussing the particular Hubbard/Gets case. Now in that case the men are rapists, Freddie was a man so he was probably a rapist argument is what I call a false argument and ignoring my other arguments isn’t fair as well. all we are doing here is interpreting, interpreting and interpreting. Her story sounds plausible, it sounds sincere, it was too late to harm Hubbard so it must be true. We assume she might stopped her career because of it. Who are we to decide. We didn’t knew Getz, we didn’t knew Hubbard, we weren’t around. Who are we to judge? These cases could be very complicated. We simply can’t judge if it’s plausible or not. It really seems to be a phenomenon of this time that everybody has an opinion on everything and just state that that’s the way it is without any evidence nor real arguments. With just some information from an interview, newspaper or a book as ‘hard evidence’. I am probably not going to convince anyone around here and I am surprised to see that I stand alone in this case. I could only say that if this story is true, I feel incredibly sorry for Jane Getz that she became the billionth victim of a man that couldn’t control himself.

Wow I am stunned that people are prepared to believe such a heavy accusation by just ‘because she tells so’ and with arguments like it’s best to believe woman in these cases. What if it does appear to be a lie, which isn’t realistic. Really I could understand the whole sentiment that the perpetrator of such a crime should hang, but by rule of law every person is still innocent till proven otherwise. I happen to know a guy, a high school friend I don’t see a lot anymore , who was accused by a jealous ex girlfriend. After all he was acquitted and the woman in question was even convicted for defamation but she reached her goal: she destroyed him. He lost everything and the whole thing still hunts him. I wonder if there are more stories like this about Freddie Hubbard? That would make it definitely more likely.

Okay. So if someone says it happened, it happened. That’s pretty naive. There are plenty of motives to lie about such things and it happens a lot. I think it’s a healthy conception to say it might have happened or might not have happened and that we will never be sure.

Thanks Mike that looks like an interesting book! Wasn’t aware of its existence so definitely going on the wantlist. But this leaves one question of course: does the fact that we tells it happened make it true? Again: if it did it would be horrifying. But is one witness statement enough to fully judge someone…

I just became a mentor so if anyone need any advice by someone half their age....

Ah I see thanks will definitely give it a listen. I must say these cases are very difficult as there is no possibility for Hubbard to defend himself. We'll never know if this is what really happened, but if it did happen that would be horrible and would change my look on Freddie Hubbard for ever.

I see what you mean Jim. I don’t want the debate whether it’s a religion or a cult nor what it’s all about. I was just asking why it would be a reason to ‘cancel’ an artist only for believing in something ridiculous… plus the question if there was something worse I am not aware of

That’s a serious accusation. Where did you read that? Can’t find anything on the web?

Well I cant believe anyone would actually believe all that Scientology nonsense but how should that restrain me from listening to his music. It’s his own (rather silly) choice isn’t it? Did he hurt people with it? That’s a sincere question maybe there are facts I don’t know about

For this still looking for a vinyl copy of Spirit Sensitive. Acoustic Sounds is doing a repress: https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/186161/Chico_Freeman-Spirit_Sensitive-180_Gram_Vinyl_Record

It is definitely and of course that’s what’s most important but the sound quality surprised me in a good way

Wow big compliments to Craft records. This sounds amazing.

When this one was announced as a Tone Poet I decided to sell my Toshiba for the same price as the Tone Poet would be. I never really liked the sound of it and assumed the Tone Poet would sound better. I assumed right. Lovely reissue of this classic

I know him mainly from his recordings with Mal and Abdullah Ibrahim. He was a great drummer! May he r.i.p

There’s a good amount of samples avaible trough soundohm.com I am convinced and will go for the whole boxed set

There’s a cd version as well 👍

You mean you had your eye on the very same copy? 🫣

Unfortunately not no. I made a pretty reasonable offer to an Austrian seller 25 euros under the selling prince and he accepted

todays finisher

Don’t know that one. It’s one the same label.

Now this is what I’d call a forgotten classic. It has that Tapscott sound all over it and what a great band.

I know the usual stuff like Komeda, Stanko, Zbieginiewsky etc... One modern group I could highly recommend is Waclaw Zimpels group Hera. All albums are recommendable but I am especially a fan of the collaboration with Hamid Drake!

the new Classic Vinyl version. They did a great job 👏