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I seem to get your point, whilst not sharing your view. What do you think of Jimi Hendrix? Or Tony Williams' Lifetime, Miles Davis' "In A Silent Way" and "Bitches Brew" (all with John McLaughlin)? I mean, it's perfectly alright not to like this, and who knows what is a step forward and what is/was just a step to some side... I personally like Raney, Bauer, Smith, also Burrell, Green, Montgomery, and of course Christian and Django better than post-1968 (or whenever the "new" sounds started) most of the time. Maybe someone here can give you some good recommendations for records that include distortion and whatever sounds, which would be a good introduction for you. Maybe the first disc of Williams' Lifetime? I think that was called "Emergency", and it includes Larry Young on organ. Maybe something by John Abercrombie, or John Scofield? ubu

No extra, but you may try djangos. They don't have it in stock, but from my experience, they might come up with one. ubu

Good idea to discuss this! The only ones I have so far (I picked them up recently for very few $$) are "Sama Layuca" and "13th House", a big-band affair. I like both of these quite a lot. The music has on the one hand sort of a post-Coltrane-consciuosness, while, on the other hand, it seems yet far more individual and Tyner's own thing than the (nice, but not great, in my opinion) Impulse dates. Tyner is still going very strong, however. Heard some broadcasts of him solo and in a trio with Al Foster. ubu

Yes, a very good one indeed! Nice to hear Sulieman in such stellar company. Flanagan's trio track "How Long Has This Been Going on" is stunning. He had such a nice touch! And Doug Watkins... words fail. That's a BASS-sound! ubu

HOly cow! I didn't see that bagpipe thing! Should stop posting a minute before going to sleep! However, that session sure looks interesting! ubu The source: http://www.jazzdisco.org/trane-dis/

That's what I found: John Coltrane Sextet John Coltrane (ss, ts) Eric Dolphy (as, bcl) McCoy Tyner (p) Art Davis, Reggie Workman (B) Elvin Jones (d) ``Village Gate'', NYC, August 8-September 3, 1961 unknown titles rejected John Coltrane Quartet John Coltrane (ss, ts) McCoy Tyner (p) Jimmy Garrison (B) Elvin Jones (d) ``Showboat'', Philadelphia, PA or ``Village Gate'', NYC, April 16, 1964 2 unknown titles private tape John Coltrane Quartet John Coltrane (ss, ts) McCoy Tyner (p) Jimmy Garrison (B) Elvin Jones (d) ``Showboat'', Philadelphia, PA or ``Village Gate'', NYC, July, 1964 My Favorite Things private tape 2 unknown titles - John Coltrane Quartet John Coltrane (ts) McCoy Tyner (p) Jimmy Garrison (B) Elvin Jones (d) ``Village Gate'', NYC, March 28, 1965 90374 Nature Boy Impulse A 90 Bass Solo unissued One Down, One Up - * The New Wave in Jazz / various artists (Impulse A 90) John Coltrane Octet John Coltrane (ss, ts, bcl, per, bagpipes) Carlos Ward (as) Pharoah Sanders, Archie Shepp (ts, per) McCoy Tyner (p) Jimmy Garrison (B) Rashied Ali, Elvin Jones (d) ``Village Gate'', NYC, September, 1965 Afro Blue rejected Out of This World - ******** Would "rejected" indicate these recordings were made by Impulse? ubu

Jackie Brown, L'ascenseur pour l'echafaud, The man with the golden arm Delerue (also his Godard soundtracks, such as Le mépris), and many of the the more recent Godard soundtracks, where the soundtrack alone can be heard as sort of an "audio-film" (similar to what some releases on the Winter&Winter label achieve) almost anything by Morricone, Max Steiner my perrennial favorite: Nono Rota (8 1/2, La dolce vita, Godfather, Il gattopardo etc) ubu

Then, for a change of pace, theres also the "Ray Brown With the All-Star Big Band Featuring Cannonball Adderley" album (Verve, 1962). It's included on the following (otherwise fairly good rather than great, double CD: And, as a sidenote, that cover story downbeat had on Cannon, some months ago, was a very good read. ubu

I'm completely with Lon on this one - wonder what a different bass-drum-team could have done... Generally, I think Evans was just not the guy to lead a date with horns. Of course he was great with Miles, but his ohn quintet/quartet dates are the ones that get the least playing time with me. It's the trios that do more for me. Then, Cannonball: I think I have never heard any wrong note from him, neither an unfitting one. I consider him one of the giants of the saxophone, and an underrated (though I hate this label) musician/bandleader/catalyst. Another of my favorite Cannonball recordings is "Things Are Getting Better, with Milt Jackson and the great rhythm section of Wynton Kelly, Percy Heath and Art Blakey. Great cover, too! ("Cover Photograph, by Charles Stewart, shows Cannonball Adderley with his King Super 20 Alto Sax"). The liners, by the way also include that strange Roverside Sterophonic diagram (the one we discussed earlier, with the phanton speaker etc) ubu

Another very good Monterose date came to mind when I read the thread on "In Action". "Body and Soul" was recorded live in the Netherlands, on January 31, 1970, with Jon Eardley and a very tight local rhythm section (Rein de Graaff, p; Henk Haverhoek, b; Pierre Courbois, d). It's a real shame this is not a quintet affair in its entirety (there are two trio features and a feature for Eardley and Monterose, and two quintet tracks. Eardley does "Old Folks", the trio does "How Deep Is the Ocean" and a de Graaff original, the quintet does another de Graaff tune and Monterose's "Short Bridge", however, the real highlite is J.R.'s take on "Body and Soul". This is another one which belongs in the row of great tenor sax interpretations of that tune! The disc was reissued by Blue Moon in 2000, seems to be available from the Freshsound-site. Anyone has heard it? ubu

"L'argent" was Bresson's last film. I had a chance to see it at a retrospective held in Zurich a couple of nmonths after his death. I saw many others there, too (Condamné, Journal d'uncuré..., Balthazar, Le diable probablement - some others were missing as they could not get any copies). There was a recent (Hollywood?) movie starring Al Pacino (whom I don't like that much in his recent films, ususally), called "Insomnia". Can't remmeber who directed it, but that was quite a bleak affair, too. **** I have just now seen Alexander Medwjedkin's silent movie "Stschastje" (german: Das Glück), from 1935. What a great film! They even had a piano player who did a quite decent job. Tomorrow, I'm going to see Griffiths "Intolerance" (for the first time in its entirety) ubu

meant Jim, of course, but couw was faster... ubu

you sure?! That Kenny G thing's worth a good laugh! Bird Lives! And he'll go on forever, as long as folks like us stay. Happy Birthday ubu

Glad not to be alone in the desert... that would make two heads

I don't rate I know what I mean that high - I'd say, it's a beautiful record, it's nice to have Evans and Cannonball together, and it's probably the best Evans & horns date, yet... somehow, I don't find myself returning to it all that often. ubu

8 1/2 is one of my say 10 (which means 20) favorite films ever! I - by the way - prefer it by far to La dolce vita. I have never seen all of I vittelloni, but that seems to be a very nice (and very italian) film, too. Roma is good, Amarcord, then those other ones, like Satyricon, have their moments, too. How about neorealismo? I have recently seen Ladri di biciclette, Sciuscia, La terra trema, Ossessione and some more. Some time ago also Roma città aperta and Paisà. But my all-time favorite film of that era is Umberto D.! ubu

brownie: I never heard of "la maman et la putain", but I made a mental note! Sure sounds good! On Bresson: I did like "L'argent" a lot. Bleak? Hell, I like that! How 'bout Antonioni? I had some strange discussion with our friend Heaney on another board. Anyone here likes La Notte, L'avventura and L'eclisse (I still had no possibility to see Il deserto rosso yet)? For me, these are some of the best movies ever made! (a side-note on La notte: the band playing that night was a real jazz quartet, the piano player is Giorgio Gaslini, who made some interesting recordings, a solo piano Monk tribute, as well as an adaption of Ayler tunes for solo piano. Antonioni let them play the whole night - not caring they also had day jobs - in order to get them unshaved and tired for that final scene in the early morning) ubu

Jim & Lon: thanks, will have to get these two as soon as I can afford! ubu

That's a good point you have re: 'experience'. I'm with you on that, generally. And that's the reason, too, why, having seen three or four japanese films, I usually have my share of japanese cinema for the next six months or so. (and I like to go to the movies up to four times a week when time allows) But Imamura, for me, was quite an experience on its own. Those films have a sort of anarchy (as has Oshima), which you don't see in our own films too often, and which did quite strike me. Will have my eyes open (that's easy, as I'm a member of both those two venues here...) for anything to come by Mizoguchi! What are your favorite Truffaut films? Mine would be the Doinel stories, Nuit américaine, and maybe La chambre verte and Tirez sur le pianiste. (Though there are some I missed) ubu

Thanks, Aggie! Relief! I tend to quite care a little bit too much about such things! ubu

Yep. The Carter one was a trio affair, with Buddy Rich on drums, if I remember correctly, and the ones with Webster (some 3 or 4 trio tracks and some more with strings) were included on the Verve 2CD Music for Loving (the strings dates). Forgot about these! The Carter is interesting to compare with the Tatum/Carter/Rich trio. ubu

brownie, I don't know many of Louis Malle's films, actually, but I enjoyed Ascenseur a lot. Sort of a late french film noir. Beautifully photographed, nice style, and then of course, there's Jeanne Moreau... (La mariée était en noir is another good one with her) Ozu & Mizoguchi I hardly know. Being still young, and there being only 2 good venues showing anything other than recent hollywood s**t and some european new stuff in between, I have to wait for the next retrospective, which will come for sure, but maybe, this will take 5 or 10 years... Imamura, for me, was very much closer to our western (old european) mentality, our way of thinking, understanding life, than the few Ozu films I've seen. L'enmpire des sens and Diary of a shinjuku thief (by Oshima) are similar. Sort of a japanese nouvelle vague, also influenced by the likes of Godard. Of the older japanese films I know, "Tokyo monogatari" is by far my favorite. The formalism and those wonderful pictures are stunning (the tour through the town of Tokyo the parents do, where you only see them sitting in their bus - because actually, when the film was made, Tokyo was still very much destroyed...), all the people coming or rather creeping into the picture from far below, then the camera, which usually is on the height of the knees of a standing person (which seems to be the height were the japanese live(d)). Stunning in every respect! ubu

Yes, I got it last week and listened to the friday night stuff so far! What a groove they hit, almost from the first note! A wonderful band in its own right, absolutely no need to compare them to the Coltrane of Shorter bands! Kelly is so fresh, Cobb and Chambers form a hell of a trio with him, and Mobley alway has some good ideas, and the usual marvellous sound... I got the two 2CD sets. What's the difference between them and the 4CD set (which I have seen nowhere here in Switzerland!)? ubu

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Let's hope our own favorite Blue Note records will bring out "Cannonball in Europe!" soon! That's a hell of a record. The Lateef band, with him having a feature (Trouble in Mind) only accompanied by Zawinul/Jones/Hayes. That's baad! (that's the last of the seven recordings Cannon took from Riverside to Capitol, the only one not on BN-CD yet) b3-er: I didn't realize you meant those Riverside/Capitol masters only! Get all the Riverside stuff by Cannonball. In San Francisco would make a good start. Includes This Here (Timmons is on piano), then go on to the recordings by the sextet with Lateef, such as Nippon Soul (another one of my faves). Jim Dye (or anyone): that CD (the cover of which you posted), does that contain the rest of the Nippon Soul/Japanese Concerts stuff? Or is there still some music not on CD yet? And anyone has heard the recent Verve LPR of Cannonball? ubu