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Garth, does it make sense to get the Proper if I have the Mosaic already? Is there much non-Clef/Norgran/Verve stuff included besides the Pasadena concert (which, I suppose, would also be available otherwise)? thanks, ubu

Jim, this is a very good description of my feelings while listening to later Pepper stuff! It has a terrifying quality to it (while being terrific, and somehow bare-nakedly outright emotional). I guess it's this self-control and self-containment which (actually holding back some more/other/stronger emotions) makes to the music so strong. ubu

EKE, hope you like them! Casa Forte is a nice addition to the other Gitanes discs. By the way, in those "Helen Merrill Presents" series, there were three reissues not by her, but by Tommy Flanagan (with one very fine bonus track featuring Ms Merrill), Al Haig and Roland Hanna (I could not locate the later two). That Flanagan disc is very good, too, in my opinion. ubu

Sounds cool! RCA could reissue that in their Bluebird First Editions series, no? (By the way, where's the first edition with these?) ubu

Now that must be a cool cat, Lon! If only you had such a nice fuzzy webcam as Mr Sangrey, you could show her to everybody here! ubu

Cool, Lon! Now you maybe could name your cat... That album with Teddy sure sounds interesting! ubu

I saw him live half a year ago. He was quite impressive! Beautiful and very strong sound, indeed. His playing Second Balcony Jump was great great fun! And then he had Rita Marcotulli on piano - I never heard her before, not even on CD, and she was quite a revelation for me, too! ubu

I have the Mosaic, and know Ventura only from those recordings. He sure is a master saxophonist. Those quartet dates are superb! And his bass sax playing is much more than a gimmick. ubu

I have not yet gotten all of them, but hell!, they're a very nice bunch of albums! I got the 3CD box (thinking along the well-known lines that the Columbia years were sort of uninteresting, nothing new etc etc) and fell in love with that stuff. Have the live ones (all of them), and started on the studio stuff. Got "Monk's Dream", "Straight No Chaser", and the 2CD Solo set (which, by the way, includes "Solo Monk"). I will sure get more of them as soon as I can afford (and have time to listen). "Monk's Dream", for one, is a tremendous disc (though I prefer the take of "Bye-Ya" that starts the box - and that, strangely (keepnews-y?) is not on the reissue of "Monk's Dream" in the same form). ubu

That's what I think about Art Forum, too. I'm someday going to have all the Blue Notes beginning with it. Have Further Ado, the very cool live quartet disc with Jason Moran, the recent one with strings and the date with Hall, Hill, Colley, Carrington and Thomas. And I like what I hear more and more. Those Osby albums show up in sales here every once and so often, so I'll wait with pickin' up the rest. I did not pay less than 11 or 12 $ for those I already have. Should we start an Osby-thread? ubu

Count me in as a big fan of Ms Merrill! The Brownie album and the three collaborations with Dick Katz are among my favorite vocal jazz albums. I like the settings, the surrounding musicians, arrangements very much. Some quite adventurous stuff there! And her husky beautiful voice... The Brownie tribute album, "Clear Out Of This World", "You And the Night and The Music", "Jelena Ana Miketic a.k.a. Helen Merrill", and "Music Makers" (trios with Gordon Beck and either Stéphane Grappelli or Steve Lacy added) are other very good albums. Seems to be a new one coming (it's listed already on amazon). Lon, what's that Teddy Wilson thing? And what's the story behind that picture? ubu

thanks, Rooster. Will look for it. There's some Blue Note sale here, so I picked up "Turbulent Flow" (along with Tyner's "Asante", "Extensions", Osby's "Art Forum" and some others) for 10 or 11$. But they only had the second of Shim's albums. But that Osby was one I was looking for for quite some time, so never give up hope on finding a CD... ubu

I got Mark Shim's "Turbulent Flow" today, just listened to it and am quite impressed! Thanks everybody! Only got it because you made him sound quite interesting, and that's at least what he turns out to be. His take of Joe Henderson's "Recorda Me" is quite impressive, Harris and Simon (completely unknown to me) turn in some good solos, too. The only slight drawback (upon first superficial hearing) is the sometimes a little too contemporaneous sound (alright, it's only rhodes, and I'm not opposed to electronics whatsoever, but the sound just sometimes bugged me a little). How is his first disc? Worth looking for? ubu

Up again with my question, then added details of the "Blues For A Hip King" CD in my post above (#2 of this thread). ubu

I saw it a couple of weeks ago and never bothered, because I thought it was a compilation culled from the VE cds. Well, I got it today (and got the Meade Lux Lewis today, too - as I'm one of those f**king completists...). I had no idea this was such a nice collection of rarities! Thanks, Aggie, Lon, for clearing this up for me! I think that Collector's Disc is going to get quite some spinning here! Another favorite of mine is the Modern Jazz Society Presents... disc. I look at it as a John Lewis album, actually. Very nice to hear Aaron Sachs in such stellar company! Then Luchy strikes as always he did, Getz, Scott and J.J. do some nice blowing, and then I like the arrangements very much. And those tunes are so nice! Can't get enough of any decent to gorgeous arrangement of "Django"... ubu

Why confess? That was truly a great series I think! Just as good as the Conns or whatever... Can you clear things with the Collector's disc? Does that have stuff from other (not VEE) dates? Stuff released on VMEs? Or rare takes? thanks, ubu

Aggie, thanks! But this is strange: La Rosita and Shine on Harvest Moon are from the Bean encounters Ben album, no? There, they play for at least double the time you gave!? And then, none of these tracks were on VEE discs! Will have to look for this disc. Think I saw it in a shop. And yes, the Dickerson is a good one, too! Some weird groovy stuff on this one! ubu

I have all of them except the Meade Lux Lewis, the Washington, the Schifrin (anyone has a copy left?) and the Collector's disc (has this one anything NOT reissued on other VEEs?) I like the series very much! Favorites include the Thigpen, Alan Shorter, Joneses, Edison, Konitz, Terry, Gillespie, Bauer, Cleveland, Jacquet, Lateef, Farmer, Jazztet, Brown discs. And the Joe Gordon album on the Blakey disc is cool, too! I knew none of that stuff before, so it held many pleasant surprises! ubu

I bet you have the Mosaic? Otherwise get it quick ubu

Yes, essential indeed! I have both the Paris and the Stockholm 4CD sets and like them very much! And Miles' playing harder, edgier, sort of compensating Trane's departure, that's something I hear in the autumn concerts, too. It's like with Trane, Miles was playing the softer counterpart, while later with Stitt taking the softer part, Miles plays more fiery, trying (and succeeding, in my opinion) to provide sort of an edge which went away with Trane. Then, I love Wynton Kelly on all these sets! Many great solos! An as an aside: there exists some story about Miles having given Trane his first ever soprano on the spring tour. ubu

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Don't think so, tjazz! Disconforme/Definitive has TWO Basie Columbia sets, one 1941-1951 (3CD) (link) and one 1936-1941 (4CD) (link). There has been some talk about these somewhere before (probably in the lost part of AAJ), and they seem to be "complete" (no additional material, no alternate takes, certainly no of the new stuff on Columbia/Legacy). I am not sure about this. And Definitive (just in case you don't know this yet - otherwise forgive me for stating the obvious) is a rip-off label. They have quite a lots of stuff which in Europe is in the public domain now (meaning older than 50 years), and they copied a fair amount of other label's releases. So generally, one should try to go for the original (though Basie is a special case, as no original exists - maybe the Chronological Classics would be the way, there). ubu

I'll look for this one! (Mike, by the way: thanks very very much for Oblique! I really love it! ) ubu

now that's strange - ten minutes ago I could not access the board! hope it stays well and healthy! ubu

By the way, these Fremaux releases are all double CDs, so they have a total of 36 (probably quite long) CDs of Django's music out! Anyone can comment on the sound quality of these? ubu