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Could it be one of you intrduced the idea of having a poll about who does the next BT just now to keep us Europeans from passing the ball around here?
I guess they would not care if we did all the work, the main problem is - if we were producing all these discs of italian, french, german, austrian, swiss, polish, czechoslovak, finnish, danish or whatever jazz, they would never identify a single tune...
ubu
This is a bad thing? Think of what an education service you'd be providing! Hey, you guys want more European jazz discussion around here? Enlighten us!!
(Man, am I greedy for new tunes, or what? ) Moose, I've signed up for BT #17, and as it's clear I will escape the obvious I might really go that way, and include almost all unknown swiss stuff - unless people don't want me to... I look at it as a chance to spread some real good music, also dig in my vaults of broadcast recordings, throwing in some never commercially available stuff, live recordings etc.
I just have not made up my mind yet if it's going to be two or three discs
Edit: Moose and all others interested: I will not do this just to make sure no one recognizes any tune, but rather, to let you hear some good stuff, mainstream to totally abstract, and to hear what connections you make, what you think about the music, and how you like it. There's a long time, however, till my BT arrives...
ubu
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Thanks for sharing this WINGY! No time to read the whole thing here at work, but this really wets my appetite for getting the disc.
Couw could make an alternative cover for us, so we can have the REAL DEAL!
ubu
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Cardboard box?
Huh?
I bought them separately, four/five weeks ago.
Cost me ten bucks, altogether.
Screw the box.
The music keeps the two jewel cases together nicely, thank you.
Damn, the stuff is good. I think I can save lots on the heating bill this winter if I keep the CDs in constant rotation.
Cheers!
Hey, quite a party going on there in your post, deus!
You got them from zweitausendeins?
If I knew they'd have them, I could have saved half of the money I spent on them (some 40 bucks, or even more...)
ubu
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Well, I guess he might not be lesser known your side of the water, but here he sure is: Charles Ives.
I cannot remember having ever seen any orchestra perform any Ives symphony here...
On the other hand, Honegger (while not being played either) is quite well-known here, being from Switzerland.
ubu
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Couw, your new avatar is GREAT!
With the "right now!" one, all that's missing now is that nice old-fashioned "ding" when you end the line!
ubu
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9) A. Mangelsdorff - "The Wide Point"
(MPS/BASF G22569) $20
Great trio date w/ Palle Danielson and Elvin Jones. Multiphonic period. This recording won German awards. Vinyl in exc shape/jacket shows shelf wear, and one clipped corner.
That's one of those in the Triologue 2CD set, yes?
ubu
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We have to keep open doors to new members with new thoughts and personalities and ideas.
Imagine what it must be like for a new member to enter our halls...they see a very tight community and they might not feel that they belong. They might also feel inhibited about expressing their personalies and ideas, especially if it might run counter to the prevailing Zeitgeist.
We should welcome everybody.
Given that, I think I'll try hanging out here for a while, if that okay with you good folks... Yes, something of an AAJ refugee here. A few of you guys may know me, and to those who don't yet - hey now!
Welcome here, gdogus!
ubu
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That's MY disc now... And I can assure you, the package was thin and economical, yet everything arrived in perfect shape!
John, looking forward to your BT very much!
And I hope you can work out getting a new grant!
ubu
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I guess it's this floaty, washes thing that I like about it! It IS very quiet music, and that's for the reason why Turner fits in perfectly well. I guess you gotta love Warne Marsh and that kind of "destached" playing style to like this album (and Turner, in general).
ubu
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First a tip to Kin Gubu, "awful" means terrible to American/English speaking people. I was startled by your mention of him concerning the '64 tour.
Thanks Chuck! Not having had any real to real personal conversation in english for the last three or four year, I try my best
(Uh, it's "king ubu" nevertheless -_- )
ubu
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Well, if EKE takes 15, let 16 be for some american, and let me try to fix all my things up for 17, alright?
king ubu for #17!
You'll get a truckload of great unknown stuff from switzerland, among other things... (well, don't be afraid, there's some guys here doing GREAT mainstream/postbop stuff that you might never recognise as being european musicians! Check out my Chris Wiesendanger recommendation in the recs forum.)
ubu
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I really can't vote on this one!
Booker is one of my favorite tenor players of any era, yet Handy, and also Shafi Hadi are great.
Then, Clifford Jordan is great on the '64 tour!
I have none of the Bobby Jones records with Mingus, but his trio record on Enja with George Mraz and the GREAT Freddie Waits is BAAAD!
Adams, I don't like him too much, well, I like him, but he's no match for the other four, in my opinion.
McLean I would not really consider a Mingus alumni. He turns in some good work on Pithecantropus (as does JR Monterose, by the way), and on Blues & Roots, though.
While typing this, I decide I can vote: and it's gotta be Hadi for me, too!
I love him on Tijuana, East Coasting, some of the Columbia stuff... (by the way, Clarence/Gene Shaw would be my favorite Mingus trumpet player! - the year of 57 was a great one for Mingus!).
ubu
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One of our biggest strengths here on this board is the fact that we are close knit and know each other very well.
We have the freedom to tease each other as well as compliment each other without sounding maudlin.
This is all wonderful.
However...
Don't let it also be our weakness. We have to keep open doors to new members with new thoughts and personalities and ideas.
Imagine what it must be like for a new member to enter our halls...they see a very tight community and they might not feel that they belong. They might also feel inhibited about expressing their personalies and ideas, especially if it might run counter to the prevailing Zeitgeist.
We should welcome everybody.
The world works that way. If someone gets out of line then they can be jumped (and they most likely will,) but I don't want an antiseptic and narrowminded world. I'd much prefer to be banished to poster hell than stay in a hypocritical and narrowminded bulletin board. We aren't that way now; let's not strive to be so.
Peace.
Very well put Conn!
I had some problems in the beginning here, too! But it's really full of very nice people around here, so that's not a great issue! Just needs some time.
The reason I took some time is that I was quite new to the BNBB when it went down, far from being online daily, then, rather more of a lurker. Then here, everybody seemed to know each other, so I needed some time to feel at home here (but I really do feel at home, now!)
Keep it comin'
ubu
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I would like to do one, but several factors have to come together first...
- I gotta buy a CD-burn facility
- I gotta have lots of spare time
- I gotta save some money to buy blanks and come up with at least some of the postage money
- and I gotta hunt down some good fun stuff you all sure won't recognize
Maybe somewhen after the middle of next year? Just keep me in mind. I did talk up, but I'm not able to give a date right now.
ubu
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How about this one?
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juck, deus!
up with some kings! the king decided it was time for some more nice small talk on kings....
Bev, up with my question on the Peter Burke book on Louis XIV! (See my post a little bit further above, before my unforgiveable society talk digression...)
ubu
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Amazing stuff! Congratulations!!
(I once had to run to catch the bus so I too know of the loneliness of the long distance runner.
) That fits me well, too!
Congratulations, Peter!
(I did some sports when I was young - well, I still consider myself young, but... somehow the "no sports" thing is the only common denominator to be found between Mr Churchill and the humble king...)
ubu
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The Story of Blue Note: "The wierdest session was when some stranger suddenly appeared in Rudy's living room, then keeled over with a big silly grin on his face! It freaked everybody out."
This almost made me burst laughing (but HELL I'm at work and nobody should know I'm on this board...)
How 'bout: right after take 3 of "Un Poco Loco", or "Glass Enclosures"? "Parisian Thoroughfare"?
or:
Dolphy's Out To Lunch
Tony Williams, Lifetime
Or the christmas eve session with Miles, Monk & Bags...
ubu
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There are a couple more reunions of Billie Holiday with the Basie crew.
One was the making of several soundies in August 1950 which produced two Lady Day appearances with the Count Basie sextet (Clark Terry, Buddy de Franco, Wardell Gray, Basie, Freddie Green, Jimmy Lewis and Gus Johnson). She sang 'God Bless the Child' and 'Now, Baby, Or Never'.
The soundies are notorious because the distributors did not want to have films with an integrated orchestra and Buddy de Franco was replaced by Marshall Royal for the visuals.
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These soundies recordings were recently reissued on a nice Sagajazz CD I just picked up and posted about here.
This is the session info:
Then I just picked up "Count Basie Septet & Octet - On Film & Live". This has the following tracks:
Hollywood, late August 1950: Clark Terry - t, Buddy DeFranco - cl, Wardell Gray - ts, Basie - p, Freddie Green - g, Jimmy Lewis - b, Gus Johnson - d, Billie Holiday - voc (-1)
GOD BLESS THE CHILD (-1)
NOW, BABY, OR NEVER (-1)
FELANGES
ONE O'CLOCK JUMP
Universal film shots, directed by Will Cowan.
brownie, in the liners of this CD, they state that by the time the films for these soundies were made, Royal had replaced DeFranco. The music was usually (again according to the liner notes of the Saga CD) recorded some time before the soundies were shot, and for the soundies, they just used the tapes, so the musicians appearing on the screen represent a different stage of the Basie septet, and have, in fact nothing to do directly with what is heard on the film. Seems this was the usual way to do it: two different "sessions".
Royal's playing on the Saga disc, by the way, strikes me as very good, upon first listening to it!
ubu
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Bringing this thread back up because no one's mentioned WORKS FOR ME yet. I recently checked this out (after discovering Billy Higgins is on it), and I have to say that--me not being all that familiar with Sco's music--this sucker blew me away!!! Higgins is awesome, of course, but the rest of that band: this is my first real exposure not only to Sco, but also Brad Mehldau as well!
(Edit: after further searching, I discovered that not a lot of people liked this record. Wonder why? It wouldn't be the first time I'm in the minority where music is concerned, but I really dug this album!)
I will have to give this yet another chance. After hearing ScoLoHoFo, maybe.
I'll report back...
ubu
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Following up on Walker's comment above, I just noticed on Sco's website that the trio (w/Swallow & Stewart) are appearing Dec 9-14 at the Blue Note, and that they will be making a live recording set for release in May 04. Schmokin!
Also on the tour front, he'll be at the same place in a duo setting with Charlie Haden on Jan 22/23, for anyone interested (Haden's apparently doing some guitar duet thing there that week - w/Bill Frisell on 20/21st, and with Jim Hall on 24/25th).
I have heard several broadcasts by the Sco/Swallow/Stewart band, and HELL, FINALLY they make an album! This migth be my favorite Sco line up. Not a festival thing, but a truly smokin' trio! Swallow's my favorite electric bass player of recent years, he has such a cool sound, and his playing is totally melodic. Stewart is one of the best drummers around, in my opinion.
I recently found both the Blue Note album with Frisell and ScoLoHoFo for very reasonable prizes in some sales bin. Only had a chance to play some of ScoLoHoFo, and I did really love what I heard. Beautifully recorded, beautiful booklet, all slightly retro, but I like it very much. And that story about the recording in Downbeat some months ago was very nice, too.
ubu
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recent acquisitions (last two weeks, I know it's far too much, but, hey, look at the prizes):
15 CHF (11$/10EUR)
Weather Report - Tale Spinnin'
WR - Mysterious Traveller
WR - Black Market
Freddie Hubbard - Red Clay
FH - Straight Life
Miles Davis - On the Corner
Hill - Passing Ships (copy protected)
Young - Mother Ship (cc)
10 CHF (7$)
Jarrett - Standards Vol. 1
Jarrett - The Cure
Peacock - Tales of Another
Crispell - Amaryllis
Blue Mitchell - The Cup Bearers
Claudio Pontiggia - Espoir (see more on him http://www.altrisuoni.com/artist.php?id=43 (He's a great french horn player!)
second hand (7-12 CHF):
Kenny Garrett - Black Hope
Dave Holland - Not for Nothin'
Koch-Schütz-Studer - Heavy Cairo Traffic
Bob Brookmeyer - the Dual Role of
Max Roach - Deeds Not Words
Hal Russell - Hal's Bells
Full prize recent acquisitions:
Don Cherry - the Sonet recordings
Jimmy Lyons - Jump Up (hat)
Christian McBride - Gettin to it (? - his debut)
and I sure fogot some... and sure my jazz money for december is up and over already...
ubu
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Hey, somehow this thread escaped me until now!
Shrdlu: which of the ones with Coltrane? The quartet one or Monk's Music or both?
I got my box (actually no box and no booklet, either) from zweitausendeins.de. I have almost all of the single OJCs, and I am on the point of starting to sell them...
The music is glorious, of course. I don't believe it's Monk's greatest period, it's not "better" than the Prestige, Columbia or the Blue Note stuff, but Monk gets to play with musicians with whom he did not play before or later.
ubu
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Theres no way i'd let my wife anywhere near the Mosaic site - she'd find out how much they REALLY cost.
A bit of help for AAJ
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I never had anything to do with Kevin, personally, but I always thoroughly enjoyed his comments, his insights, his opinions.
I would sure welcome him back here!
(and we had enough Connoisseur discussion, nevertheless, didn't we? Although I sure miss that one thread in particular, too! But as another worthy member has said so well: Let it go!)
ubu