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holy shit, rooster! don't remind me of how long it will take till I'm a funkateer...
ubu
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Hey guys!
Just let me use this to thank you all for the nice surroundings here! Being relatively new to any online community thing, I really have to say I like staying around here, and this has got a lot to do with you people hanging around here.
Keep it greeazy (err, well, then let's have some Ayler or Hal Russell, to recover from all the greaze
)ubu
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Dan, let Jim try first.
I just thought to offer some help - I cannot guarantee anything, but the swiss scene is quite small, and it might be worth a try. I think I could get to Mr Schmidlin somehow and then pass it on to you. But let's wait till Jim comes up with something.
Maybe the man (I cannot remember his name) who produces the "agb" series (agb being his initials) could help. He's living in america and/or is an american, if I remember right.
ubu
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I still consider Dylan the best to do covers of Dylan songs. Saw him live early november, and he was just GREAT! You never know what to expect from him!
Regarding what I thought was the topic here, it would have been Nashville, too. I like the World gone wrong cover, and some others, too, but Nashville gets the nod...
ubu
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king ubu, I know both of these Russian labels: Solyd and Long Arms. They both were started in the late-80s and are pretty dead by now. I heard very few of their releases, but I saw many of these artists live in Russia. It is pretty uneven stuff. In general Russian improvisational music scene is not particularly rich (although there are some excellent musicians - I'll expand some time later). If you are interested in anything from their catalog, I can contact the owners of the labels directly when I am in RUssia next time (Spring, I guess) to see if anything is still avilable. It looks like this AVANTART website is dysfanctional as well, so I doubt you can order anything from it.
Д.Д., it would be great if you could look for some Ganelin trio stuff! I never heard them, but read some rave reviews!
But maybe there are records available by them you rate higher than the russian ones, so you rather tell me what to get first, and forget about the russian stuff.
thanks,
ubu
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I found two very interesting solo piano discs yesterday:
Georg Gräwe, Six Studies for Piano Solo (West Wind)
Ulrich Gumpert, The Secret Concert (ITM)
both of them were recorded in Berlin in the year o 1987. About Gräwe I know nothing, except having seen him mentioned in this thread and someplace else on this forum, the only thing I have from Gumpert so far is his apperance on that very good Lacy duo disc, Five Facings (FMP).
ubu
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Progression, an alternate of Tautology, is missing from the Prestige date.
Maybe others, but this jumped out at me.
Thanks Chuck, so I was right doubting there are 4 tracks only. That Prestige CD is an essential addition to the early Tristano, Konitz and Marsh music:
ubu
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Thanks for this recommendation, brownie! Sounds like a good one! And Humair is getting better with age very much, in my opinion! (His "Liberté surveillée" project with Eskelin, Ducret & Chevillon is very good, in my opinion! And check him out on the Lacy CD, also a 2002 production, I mentioned further up in this thread. He is also on three tracks recorded by Lucky Thompson in trio format - this is before our timeframe, but nevertheless deserves mention - with Peter Trunk. These three titles were reissued on the second of Lucky's Complete Vogue CDs)
ubu
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Just got the disc yesterday, listened to it while doing some work yesterday night.
It hits me as an excellent album, all in all. Both observations of Mike (Corea/McLaughlin and cymbal sound of DeJohnette) are quite true to these ears, too, however this does not make the record much worse. And DeJohnette plays very well!
Garbarek IS the winner, I think, surpassing his lastly usual playing, and yes, taking chances.
I remember having read the session was done in different locations (look at the credits, they're quite strange, giving two studios, no recording dates, but only a date when the mix was done. It is hard to imagine this being true, at least in regard to the core trio! They seem very tight! Vitous & DeJohnette MUST have been in the studio together at the same time, no?
ubu
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cool site
ubu
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I've got a Lee Konitz MMO LP, gotta check it out again. He plays some classics and standars, if I remember right. Basin Street Blues and such stuff. But I cannot really remember. Gotta dig this LP out.
ubu
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Here comes the discography for "Intuition", the Properbox:
Disc One: OUT ON A LIMB
Emmett Carls Sextet 1945, featuring Lennie Tristano : Shorty Rogers, tp; Earl Swope, tb; Emmett Carls, ts; Lennie Tristano, p; Chubby Jackson, b; Don Lamond, d.
New York, May 1945
-1 TEA FOR TWO
-2 TEA FOR TWO (TAKE 2)
BLUE LOU
-1 THESE FOOLISH THINGS
-2 THESE FOOLISH THINGS (TAKE 2)
-1 IT’S THE TALK OF THE TOWN
-2 IT’S THE TALK OF THE TOWN (TAKE 2)
Lennie Tristano, p
Chicago, 1946
YESTERDAYS
WHAT IS THIS THING
CALLED LOVE
DON’T BLAME ME
I FOUND A NEW BABY
Lennie Tristano Trio : Lennie Tristano, p;
Billy Bauer, g; Leonard Gaskin, b.
New York, late 1946
JBB 268 I CAN’T GET STARTED
JBB 268 A NIGHT IN TUNISIA
Lennie Tristano Trio : Lennie Tristano, p;
Billy Bauer, g; Clyde Lombardi, b.
New York, October 8, 1946
HL 176-1 OUT ON A LIMB
HL 176-2 OUT ON A LIMB
HL 176-3 OUT ON A LIMB
HL 177-1 I CAN’T GET STARTED
HL 177-2 I CAN’T GET STARTED
HL 178-1 I SURRENDER DEAR
HL 178-2 I SURRENDER DEAR
HL 178-3 I SURRENDER DEAR
HL 179-1 INTERLUDE
HL 179-2 INTERLUDE
HL 179-3 INTERLUDE
HL 179-4 INTERLUDE
HL 179-5 INTERLUDE
HL 179-6 INTERLUDE
Disc Two: NEW SOUND
Lennie Tristano Trio : Lennie Tristano, p; Billy Bauer, g; Clyde Lombardi, b.
New York, October 8, 1946
UNTITLED BLUES
Lennie Tristano Trio : Lennie Tristano, p; Billy Bauer, g; Bob Leininger, b.
New York, March 23, 1947
KH 200 BLUE BOY
KH 201 ATONEMENT
KH 202-1 COOLIN’ OFF WITH ULANOV
KH 202-2 COOLIN’ OFF WITH ULANOV
Lennie Tristano, p
New York, September 23, 1947
D7VB 1649 I DON’T STAND A GHOST OF A CHANCE WITH YOU
D7VB 1650 SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION
D7VB 1651 JUST JUDY
Lennie Tristano, p; Bily Bauer, g; John Levy, b
New York, October 23, 1947
SUPERSONIC
ON A PLANET
AIR POCKET
CELESTIA
Lennie Tristano, p; Billy Bauer, g; Arnold Fishkin, b.
New York, December 31, 1947
FREEDOM
PARALLEL
APELLATION
ABSTRACTION
PALIMPSEST
DISSONANCE
John La Porta, cl, Lennie Tristano, p; Billy Bauer, g; Arnold Fishkin, b.
New York, December 31, 1947
THROUGH THESE PORTALS
SPECULATION
NEW SOUND
RESEMBLANCE
Disc Three: CROSSCURRENTS
The Metronome All Stars : Dizzy Gillespie, Miles Davis, Fats Navarro, tp; J.J. Johnson, Kai Winding, tb; Buddy de Franco, cl; Charlie Parker, as; Charlie Ventura, ts; Ernie Caceres, bs; Lennie Tristano, p; Billy Bauer, g; Eddie Safranski, b; Shelly Manne, d; Pete Rugolo, arr; dir.
New York, January 3, 1949
D9VB 0022 VICTORY BALL
Lennie Tristano Quintet/Quartet : Lee Konitz, as; Lennie Tristano, p; Billy Bauer, g; Arnold Fishkin, b; Shelly Manne, d (-1)
New York, January 11, 1949
JRC 3 TAUTOLOGY (-1)
JRC 8 SUBCONSCIOUS LEE (-1)
JRC 10 RETROSPECTION
JRC 11-B JUDY
Lennie Tristano Sextette : Lee Konitz, as; Warne Marsh, ts; Lennie Tristano, p; Billy Bauer, g; Arnold Fishkin, b; Harold Granowsky, d.
New York, March 4, 1949
3413 WOW
3414 CROSSCURRENT
Lennie Tristano, p; Billy Bauer, g; Arnold Fishkin, b; Harold Granowsky, d.
New York, March 14, 1949
3714-1 YESTERDAYS
Lennie Tristano Sextette : Lee Konitz, as; Warne Marsh, ts; Lennie Tristano, p; Billy Bauer, g; Arnold Fishkin, b; Denzil Best, d.
New York, May 16, 1949
3784 MARIONETTE
3785 SAX OF A KIND
3786-2 INTUITION
3787 DIGRESSION
Lennie Tristano Quintet : Warne Marsh, ts; Lennie Tristano, p; Billy Bauer, g; Arnold Fishkin, b; Jeff Morton, d.
Birdland, New York, 1949
REMEMBER
PENNIES
FOOLISH THINGS
INDIANA
I’M NO GOOD WITHOUT YOU
Disc Four: LENNIE’S PENNIES
Lee Konitz, as; Warne Marsh, ts; Lennie Tristano, p; Billy Bauer, g; Joe Shulman, b; Jeff Morton, d.
Carnegie Hall, New York, December 24, 1949
SAX OF A KIND
YOU GO TO MY HEAD
Lennie Tristano, p; Peter Ind, b; Roy Haynes, d.
New York, October 30, 1951
EIKB-4138-1 JU-JU
EIKB-4139-1 PASSTIME
Lee Konitz, as; Warne Marsh, ts; Lennie Tristano, p; Peter Ind, b; Al Levitt, d.
UGPO Hall, Toronto, Canada, July 17, 1952
LENNIE’S PENNIES
317 EAST 32ND
YOU GO TO MY HEAD
APRIL
SOUND-LEE
BACK HOME
Hey, it has the complete Keynotes, all alternates with it (oct 46 and march 47 dates), the Konitz date I mentioned is there too (Jan 49), as are the dates on the Capitol CD.
Being interested in the box myself (as there seem to be at least some dates I don't have) - can anyone tell us if the dates included are generally there in their entirety?
ubu
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Good recommendations so far!
The Mosaic might not be around all that long, being no. 174 it is already surrounded by OOP sets.
The Tristano/Konitz/Marsh was my very first Mosaic, and I still (and always will) love it!
The Intuition disc mentioned by Late includes the seminal sessions which (as is said - there are others, earlier ones, I suppose) introduced totally free, abstract playing to jazz. (The Marsh album is a two tenor thing with Ted Brown, a major and virtually unknown figure - great stuff, too!)
These dates, as well as four (or are there five?) tunes made with Lee Konitz (and inlcluded on an OJCCD by Konitz) are certainly included in the Properset.
The Rhino/Atlantic CD then includes two LPs, a solo one, and one where the first side included the famous overdub sessions, and the second side had some quartet live tracks feat. Konitz, Gene Ramey and Art Taylroor - GREAT STUFF!
The Konitz/Tristano/Ramey/Taylor dates are included in their entirety (2CDs) in the Mosaic set.
The Mosaic also includes two Konitz albums, the GREAT (once again...) Konitz/Marsh album, and then at the end, Marsh's own album for Atlantic.
Other early material worth picking up and partially on the Proper, too, I think, would be the Keynote sides. There are lots of alternates, which Proper traditionally omits, however. The whole sessions came out several years ago on Mercury, and is well worth having.
chris: don't expect to find Tristano easily accesible, don't expect to love his music upon first hearing it. His playing (and that of his sidemen, too, often at least) is very cool. He's a linear, thinking player - hell, he swings like hell, too... Hard to describe!
And get used to the thought of drummers merely playing a metronome role (the Keynote sides have no drummer at all) - there was some discussion of Tristano's requirements regarding his drummers in one of the DEEP threads, recently.
Art Taylor however does not really restrict himself to the Tristano frame on those quartet live dates, and Konitz somehow gets a little bit too expressive, too, from time to time, and I consider this part of the fascination of these recordings.
Then, expect yourself becoming a Warne Marsh devotee once you discovered this great musician.
ubu
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Dan, being a little closer to the source, tell me if I should try to get in contact with somebody at TCB. I have not much time to do such things right now, but I think it would be a couple of phone calls or emails. But it would be good to have a small piece of information about what you've done so far.
ubu
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Hey, c'mon guys, gotta throw in a good word for this one!
I LOVE IT!
(and not only in small doses! Many beautiful ballads, even more blues, the dates with Emmett Berry, the big band sides, the RCA stuff on disc 4... so much good music!)
ubu
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Д.Д., thanks for the info on that russian stuff - I would have to take a deeper look to see in what I might really be interested.
About For4Ears I don't know much. I listened to some stuff in stores here, but nothing that did grab me instantly.
And holy shit, erstwhile really seems to draw one in once you came too close... I better not start right now - wait till my finances get a little bit healthier!
ubu
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Jim, thanks for the info! I got that CD (and love it!) - that was my very first Jazz In Paris disc!
brownie: I never heard of that record! Will look for it, sounds very interesting, thanks!
ubu
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Are there good translations of Bachmann? I think here language is quite one of a kind. Also she's got an austrian touch. I guess quite some is lost with translation, no?
ubu
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Sure, Bachmann...
I read Malina recently, and really loved it! You got to have enough time to read it in two or three days. A great novel!
You know "Der gute Gott von Manhattan"? Love it!
Of her short stories (hell, these are no short stories, these are "Erzählungen"...), I know only a few, but have them all at hand, in case I want to read more...
ubu
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... Gottfried Benn, Georg Trakl...
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Any readers of poems here? If so, what authors do you like?
sure!
Bachmann, Günther Eich, Ilse Aichinger, Ginsberg, Kerouac, Corso, Robert Walser, Else Lasker-Schüler, Jessenin, Rilke, any Dada poems (Ball, Arp, Huelsenbeck, Tzara, etc), Rimbaud, Baudelaire, Jandl...
ubu
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ever heard of this label?
http://www.avantart.com/longarms/longarms.htm
or:
http://www.avantart.com/music/solyd/solyd1.htm
and:
I guess in looking for rare ones these fit the category, no?
ubu
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Rooster, I don't know if it was on a McMaster CD. It was no Conn, and I guess it will rather come out as a Conn than an RVG.
I still hope for a Select, and I wouldn't mind the Jordan disc being included or not. That one would probably let the trio track off and be incomplete anyway, so we'd have to wait for a Conn (or RVG) as well.
ubu