king ubu

Well, I'm not one of the more knowledgeable members here, but I do have some transcription recordings (some in Mosaic sets, like the Kenton, the Peggy Lee, some on LPs), and I guess my favorites are the various Tadd Dameron broadcasts. I like the ones after Fats Navarro had left the band just as much as the ones with Fats. Great music! People like Rudy Williams, Kai Winding, Allen Eager in the band, later the "big ten" groups with the likes of Sahib Shihab, Cecil Payne, Miles... some wonderful music! (Fantasy, btw, released a CD of some of this material - no big ten stuff, however - which has better sound quality than the other releases I have) ubu

now you're some real sick guys! ubu

Mike, we seem to be pretty rare birds! Europeans seemingly don't buy Mosaics... At least there are some stores who always carry one of two of them. You could, for instance, buy the Teddy Wilson for around 200$ there... I wonder if there are people crazy enough to buy these! ubu

Maybe you are right, Lon. Maybe one should see the whole trend to spirituality in those years as of its time, and yet meant true. I remember now having read a chapter in a book of J.E. Behrendt on this topic. I shall look at that again, having in memory it was interesting. About the orchestrations, you're certainly right! Amazing music, very textural, beautiful music! ubu

uh, I freaked up! My bad: I wanted to say: I don't know anybody (except me, that is...) who DOES OWN a Mosaic. I mean, people I know, meat, talk to in real life - (that's not to diss anyone here, but there IS some difference). I would sure like to get some of these sets, however... ubu

Scott, I don't intend to diss the music, and I found the disc surprisingly good, BUT: do you really think this is spirituality? To me, it sounded just very much of its time, and I really would not know if I could describe this music as spriritual. ubu

This is a little bit of a problem. But keeping an overview over this thread is rather difficult, as it grows and grows... On the other hand, Jim's two discs include that much good music, it really would be a shame we had only one disc of that! By the way, the idea of Disc2,#1 being Eric Kloss gets me interested again in that musician. I only have the already mentioned Fantasy CD coupling two dates with Patterson, and like that one quite much. Got to dig up disc two again as soon as I can and have another listen! ubu

Uh, no problem! I bet my attack has been caused by there being too few jazz fans dying around here... ahem... and, seriously, I know not one person here who owns at least one Mosaic set, believe it or not... ubu

You know, I was seriously troubled by this one: ubu

And, just for your birthday Couw... to go with those Freedom Fries... I even got you ALL the ingredients to make your very own Hello Kitty™ brand Mayonnaise!!! (Don’t all Europeans put that Mayo glop on their fries??) Here ya go!!! (And as with many presents: "Some Assembly Required"... as in, you'll have to put these together yourself with Photoshop. ) PLUS This had me laughing out loud Rooster! ubu

wow, having looked at the contents, I really should consider getting this! ubu

Cool, thanks! I hope I can afford this as long as it is around! (I am seriously considering a buying stop... ) ubu

cool, Claude, thanks! ubu

je voulais dire, trop douce, naturellement... "Ma femme est mort, je suis libre!" ubu (le roi des toute la polognie) (je veux du gateau!)

impossible my foot! Maybe you frenchies are too douce some times Thanks again, brownie. Good Billy Byers was very much involved with the french jazz scene in these years! ubu

I thought so, but wasn't sure where I heard that, thanks, couw! Excellent writer, indeed! He succeeds to express verbally several things about music (and I guess talking/writing about free jazz is even more difficult than about rather traditional forms of jazz) which I have never seen that clearly explained before. The Taylor chapter being a case in point for that. ubu

I bought none which disappointed me so far. I love the Shank, and agree very much with wesbed's comments (though I'm as far from texas as you can get...) I had similar feelings as have been expressed with the Jones/Lewis, however, as I did not know any of the music contained therein before, the quality of discs 1-3 blew me enough to put this on my favorite Mosaic list. Mike, that Basle disc's a stunner, no? I LOVE it! Joe Henderson really breakes loose on the first track! I like the Giuffre very much. The trio sides, the second of the Capitol LPs... so much great music there! I would, however, not get the Freshmen or the Hackett sets... I guess I really don't need these. ubu

Jim, I hope you had a nice birthday! Sorry for being late (was offline all weekend). ubu

All the best John! Holy couw, err, shit! (Couldn't resist either ) hope you get a good portion of Freedom Fries, today have some on me: ubu

brownie, this sounds interesting, to say the least! Do you happen to have a list of all these "Bandes originales" releases Universal France produced recently? They started the series maybe two years ago, yes? I have not picked up any of the discs, but seen them from time to time, and they include soundtracks to many great (and dearly beloved) movies. ubu

By the way, anyone knows which bass player is on which tracks on the Gayle CDs? I think the cover does not state this clearly. ubu

Some nice finds, all used CDs (39 swiss franks alltogether, around 25-30 US$): Anthony Ortega, On Evidence (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&u...l=Ajs5gtq6zzu44) I listened to the first two minutes of Warm Canto and knew I got to have it. Never heard Ortega before. How's his HatOLOGIES? Charles Gayle, More Live (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&u...l=Awjfpxqlgldke) I only have his FMP Touchin' on Trane, and that's one of the best post Coltrane energy records I ever heard! I got two more discs, one which might be interesting you guys, but I forgot what it was (another clear sign I'm buying too much in too little time... ). I had no chance to listen to either of them, but I will report back. (As I will re. the Gräwe and Gumpert discs...) ubu

Cool! Have fun with that! ubu

very hard to choose just one! some favorites include: Thad Jones Capitol Mobley Tristano/Konitz/Marsh Jimmy Giuffre Jackie Mac Andrew Hill Tina Brooks H.R.S. J.J. Jones/Lewis hell, I like ALL of 'em - err, that's: I like all I have so far...

I just read the Taylor chapter in Ekkehard Jost's book "Free Jazz" (from 1972 originally, it has been reissued in german last year, I think; I don't know if it has been out in english, too), and he makes some very interesting points about Taylor. Obviously he knows the story only until the late sixties (when he wrote the book), but that already makes for a very interesting read. He looks at the concepts of Taylor's music, speaks of his "energy" thing that replaces what "swing" used to be in jazz before him, talks about the drummers and Taylor's problems with them - and this IS a problem, in my opinion, too: Dennis Charles is just too stiff, too metronomic. Sunny Murray really made a huge change! (and as I just re-listened to that short free improvised trio track with Neidlinger/Higgins from one of the Candid dates, I think playing free Higgins was very good, too, while on O.P. he is similarly awkward as Charles, just playing in another style, of course). Don't get me wrong, however! There are many things I like about the early Taylor records, and I think up to the Nefertiti I got all of it (with the exeption of the Newport Verve mini-LP which I still have to get). Jost makes a thorough analysis of the title track of Unit Structures and correlates it with Taylor's construction scheme (he did replace the theme-solos-theme scheme with some more complex concepts, he used three termini to talk about it, the first one being some sort of a prologue, the others called "Area", and "Plain"). What Jost writes seems highly plausible to me, and very very interesting, too. Good help in trying to understand the structural side of Cecil's music, which you often do not get right from the start. The music is so complex you need more than one listen, and knowing Taylor a little bit sure helps, too. ubu