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Thanks brownie, I'll put them on my ever-growing list! ubu

Photography by David Seymour, Loren at home, Rome, Italy 1955. ubu (anybody seen de Sica's "Ieri, oggi, domani"?

I was not able to revisit this one (neither when actually AOTW nor ever since) - however I remember there was discussion (maybe at the beginning of this thread?) that the sound of the new Connoisseur edition of this one (copy controlled when you pick it up in europe) was a major step forward in comparison to the Mosaic (which I have). The Spanish edition might use the Mosaic of simply the old McMaster remasterings (if these are not one and the same), so this might explain the problem. ubu

John, we could do some exchanges, however I'm usually pretty slow in doing these. I got that concert I heard from radio. Better quality mix than on location sound (which I experience quite often, and which really sucks! I mean, you see a bass player there, and maybe he's playing some interesting stuff, but you just can't hear him. Then a couple of months later the same concert's broadcasted and suddenly you hear what the guys did play... sure, you don't have the live experience and all, but sound is a rather important part of that, too, no? --- end of rant -_- ) ubu

I have never heard of Maja Ratkje...how would you describe the album? The only albums I have ever heard on Rune Grammofon are by Supersilent. If you have never heard them you really should get a copy of Supersilent 6. Amazing album. I just found that for around 7 bucks! I saw Supersilent live (wait until next x-mas to get some supersilent surprise...) two years ago. Great set, great music. The same night, The Necks played. Know them, Geoff? They're from OZ, right? They were blowing the place up! Really great music, and it works on CD, too, which I find quite remarkable. I did not know ECM was involved with Rune Grammofon. I think I read a feature about Rune in some swiss paper this or last year, but cannot remember many things. Can you give us a little bit more information on this Maja Ratkje? I never heard her name! ubu edited some typos

This is the album I forgot the title of, no chance to listen: Spring Heel Jack, Amassed (Thirsty Ear) Line up looks good, listening to the first couple of minutes sounded interesting. It's got Kenny Wheeler, Paul Rutherford, Evan Parker and Han Bennink, among others. ubu

You know, brownie, there are several things I LOVE about France - the most recent being that Giscard got elected to the Académie... HELL! THAT MADE ME BURST WITH LAUGHING! (and a day later the EU constitution goes to hell...) seriously, I like: french cheese, french wine, french ladies, french movie actresses (and some actors, too), french film directors, french intellectuals (exclude Mons. Glucksmann, in case you consider that creep an intellectual...), the guillotine, Louis Antoine Léon de Saint-Just, some other of those funny guys, the "philosophes"... you know, I might be some sort of a frenchophile... MERDRE! ubu (de par ma chandelle verte!)

Mike, so you might like the last box set available, the Warner one. I think Evans gained some momentum there again, before his death. I did not yet find the time to explore it in its entirety, but I loved the parts of it I heard so far. ubu

Yes, Geoff, this might be one of the best records ever done on ECM! I love it very much! Very true what Д.Д. said about DeJohnette and Wheeler (well, and about Holland, too ) Grab this one when you see it! A beautiful album in all accounts! And it seems this was the last sideman gig Jarrett did. ubu

Very cool, couw! (Please PM me your postal address - just in case you missed my plea for it a couple of posts above!) ubu

Thanks for this info, brownie! Seems Ortega is a musician worthy to explore! And I know about the ECM/HatOLOGY business, but there are days I like some ECM stuff... ubu

Lon, thanks! Can you provide a link to the Ellington discs? I think the only way to get them in stores here is to buy the Definitive edition, which I do not intend to do (they're far overpriced here anyway, 3CDs would be around 45$) Thanks, ubu

oh, c'mon! it's slowly but surely time to get them solutions anyway, no? can't wait to know what some of the tracks really are... ubu

What jazzbo (lonson) said. I listened to it this morning after reading your inquiry, ubu. Maybe not side 1(first two tracks are weird, to me), but side 2 is definitely a spiritual offering, Alice Coltrane style. I loved it again! Especially with the subwoofer on! I can feel COSMIC vibrations! Yeah, COSMIC MUSIC!... I got to listen to it sometimes around x-mas again... ubu

I always shied away from buying it (which wouldn't be difficult to do here), waiting for a better reissue, but it seems with the Getz/Brookmeyer VME they had the same problem: no additional material might be released... HELL! osama-bin-whatever, get the fuck out of here! ubu

uh, so the Navarro/Dameron stuff does not belong here! Jim, are these Thornhill things still available? I recently bought a cheap Thornhill one disc comp. (Past Perfect) without any specifics given. I will start a thread on this once I have it with me in front of a working computer, and ask if anyone has more info on that - might be, partially at least, transcriptions. ubu

Ubu, suggest you look for 'New Dance' which was reissued on Hatology. You're in for a treat!! I have been rediscovering Ortega for years. Thanks, brownie - that's the one our russian friend (you remember him, don't you?) mentioned as even better, I guess! Would you be interested in getting a Steamboat CDR, too? Feel free, if you like, there's a couple of them left. Just please pm me your postal address as my notebook is down at the moment. Do you have any more information on Ortega? I know his name, I know he was in the backing band of a Johnny Hartman Bethlehem album in the fifties, and shows up on some other things I have (all without solo space for horns), and I have seen teh two hatOLOGY albums, but never yet listened to them. Seems he's a pretty interesting character! ubu

anyone able to give some info or shortest reviews about any of the above discs? I guess I don't need all the Burton and Corea stuff (though I like the Atlantic album Burton did with Jarrett! And the Throb Burton album attached to the Jarrett/Burton on the Rhino CD is pretty cool, too!). Codona, Vasconcelos, Gismonti and the Folks songs one look like world music rather than jazz, yes?

Source: http://www.marinopliakas.com/OS-promo.html Hope this is of any use. I did include a little bit more information further up in this thread. ubu

here comes the list, hope I make not too many errors, but being at work Abercrombie/Holland/DeJohnette, Getaway Adams, Sound Suggestions AEC, Nice Guys P.Bley, Open to Love Brand (Ibrahim), African Piano Burton/Corea, Crystal silence Burton, New quartet Burton/Swallow, hotel hello Burton Quartet, Passengers Codona Bill Connors, Of mist and melting Corea, piano improvisations vol.1 Corea/Burton, IN concert Zurich DeJohnette, New Directions Garbarek, Sart Garbarek/Stenson, Witchi-Tai-To Garbarek, Places Gismonti, Danca das cabecas Mick Goodrick, IN Pas(s)ing Haden/Garbarek/Gismonti, Folk songs Holland, COnference of the birds Holland, Emerald Tears Jarrett, Facing you Jarrettt Arbour Zena Jarrett, Survivors' Suite Jarrett, My Song Jarrett, Spheres Jarrett, Personal Mountains Lande, Red Lanta Liebman, Drum Ode Pat Metheny Group Metheny, Bright Size Life Stephan Micus, Implosions Paul Motian, COnception Vessel Gary Peacock, December Poems Barre Philipps, Mountainscaspes Rava, Pilgrim & The Stars Rypda, After the Rain Rypdal, Waves Stanko, Balladyna Surman, Upon Reflection Towner, SOlstice Town,er Solo COncert Vasconcelos, Saudades Vesala, Satu Vitous. First Meeting Waldron, Free at Last Weber, Colours of Chloe Weber Yellow Fields Wheeler, Gnu High I have the HOlland (Conference...), Wheeler, Jarrett (My Song, Personal MOuntains); Garbarek Witchi-tia-to, Ibrahim, Towner Solo Concert and Weber Colours.. CDs. Like them all. Surman, Stanko, Vesala, Waldron and some more of teh Jarretts would sure be worthwhile! ubu

Wow John! Very very cool! I like all of them! This one might be my favorite: IMPORTANT: I do not know if my laptop will work these days! PLEASE EVERYBODY SEND ME YOUR POSTAL ADRESSES TO MY ORGANISSIMO-PM BOX AGAIN! (Geoff, I just got yours... ) I will get the discs tonight, and hope to be able to send them out tomorrow. I guess the ones going to the US and to Australia won't arrive in time... John, you can PM us the links to your site and everybody can choose his own cover, no? Hell, real custom orange slices! Very cool work, indeed! me likee! ubu

Thanks. I have that album on vinyl (was it ever released on CD?), but haven't listened to it in a while. Need to dig it out and give it a listen. Yes, it is on CD. I only recently got it. It's either Atlantic or Rhino, probably Rhino. And probably OOP. ubu

Lazaro, that last paragraph of your post states very much the same Jost says (and remember he said that in a book published in 1972, on which he worked most probably in the late sixties, already). Murray and Cyrille were the right guys, and with them, it seems, everything in Taylor's music fell in place. On the influences on Taylor, Jost points to Lennie Tristano and Dave Brubeck. He quotes from Williams' book "Four lives of Bebop" (or similar), some interview passages were Taylor himself speaks about Brubeck and Tristano. I cannot emulate all Jost writes here from memory. Then it seems Taylor heard Silver playing opposite Brubeck and perceived it as Brubeck imitating Silver. From then on he was interested more in the "black" side, and less in the attempts to produce an amalgamation of jazz and european music (which was why he early on was fascinated by both Brubeck and Tristano). Interesting, then, is that Jost, after describing the ways and developpement of Taylor, in his close reading of "Unit Structures", mentions, how close parts of the exhibition of the thematic material (going from memory the first four minutes or so of the track) come to new music. But this then, would be from a wholly different angle - not the trial to do like fugues or something, wrapped in jazzy rhythms, but rather, having succeeded in developping his own musical structuralism, his own scheme how to do things, how to get rid of the theme-solos-theme structure, Taylor's music can indeed at times sound almost like "Neue Musik" (I don't know if the term "new music" as I used it before describes the same thing). On a more personal basis, though, even with knowledge of the the points Jost discusses, much of Taylor's music, and often with Sunny Murray on drums, sounds like "just the usual high energy (post-Coltrane) sixties free jazz" (not to diss that, though!). I mean, you can often not figure out without repeated listenings/explorations, how complex that music is, and how (even if partly/mostly improvised on the spot) constructed it is. Yet somehow, the music often is extremely dense and never opens up or slows down or lets some air to breathe in between, and that's not only a challenge, in my opinion, but rather, sometimes, a pretty boring thing... ubu

Д.Д. - are you aware that there is an ECM sale going on here (well, at least in Zurich). They sell 50 titles form the seventies for CHF 20 (the list price being Euro 15.5 or something, and the usual price in shops here being from 33-36CHF, that's quite alright). I bought Jarrett's My Song and one or two others so far. The small brochure they have in the shops says sale until feb 04, but I would not trust that! On the Gayle again: the drummers do change, not the bassists. It seems the the first drummer is simply on disc 1 and the second on disc 2. Cool that this swiss online site works! I've got to put some orders there... but Chaney and Geoff seem to know the problem... HELL! ubu

John, how much do they charge for shipping? ubu