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One of my favorite recordings of his (I know not many of them, have not picked up any of the MPS CDs yet) is this one: it features the quartet of OP, Koller, Attila Zoller and Jimmy Pratt. Some more tracks by this line up have been included on one of the above MPS CDs (see the MPS thread in the Reissue secion for more). ubu

This is sad news Thanks for posting, brownie. ubu

I guess you are right (and there seems to be some sort of a general consensus about Murray and Cyrille being the perfect drummers for Taylor). I was only trying to analyze what I hear when listening to Taylor's pre-Murray records. Nefertiti then is where things really get together. The three tracks from the Gil Evans "Into The Hot" album, however, are very good too! I am just starting to explore the works of Murray and Cyrille with Taylor, however. A reunion with Taylor would sure be great! They could add Henry Grimes, for instance... ubu

Yes, I think there are two "Past Perfect" labels indeed. The one chris ask about I never heard of, but I do know the one Mike mentions. I did pick up some of their releases, and they were discussed here (and/or on AAJ - probably lost there) some months ago. Mike, they did license the Candid stuff. I got their releases of the Russell/Hawk, the Don Ellis, the Clark Terry album, and saw that they had some more, like the Benny Bailey (which I have on Candid). On the public domain discs, it's stated printed & copyright by Past Perfect TIM Company or something, while on the Candid reissues it says something like printed by TIM/Past Perfect, licensed from Candid Records UK. I don't think they would print that on the back of their CDs if it was not true. ubu

I actually had NO expectations - not being old enough to know seventies jazz, and until now having concentrated on fifties and sixties and some contemporary stuff, I did not know much of Vitous before - I knew his reputation and all that, but I think the only record I have with him is Star, that ECM trio disc with Garbarek & Erskine. A good one, but not one of my favorites. So with my non-existing expectations this disc really struck me as a very very good one! By the way, Mike, did you see the rave review it got in the FAZ? ubu

I put all these sets on the notification list at Django's - result: they get a set of the "Middle Years Pt. 1" about once a week. None other, though, except maybe the "Last Years", but I think that one did only show up once since I put all of these on my list some months ago... SHIT! Why not look for CDR offers? (hint, hint) - we could sure manage an united european exchange... ubu

jazz1 - I had read your post about the concert, and SHAME ON ME! being the only swiss guy here, I have NEVER heard Ms Schweizer live! I don't even have one CD of hers - those Intakts are so fucking expensive here... I know some of her stuff through radio, read about her everytime there is a story in some newspaper, but that's about it. I will check out that record with Moholo, however. He made one on FMP in 88 with Cecil Taylor, too. You know that? (I don't) Then Schweizer just has a new Intakt CD out with Pierre Favre. He is a GREAT musisician, master drummer and percussionist. At least him I did see/hear a couple of times. He's also a very good bandleader doing interesting projects. (all off-topic, sorry!) ubu

Crispell/Jarman duo is excellent. Lyrical and bluesy. Get it! John, I'll listen to VAO one more time and elaborate. On the first (not very attentive) listen it sounded mechanistic and over-arranged. They still had it and I got it for 10 franks. Not bad. Like the music, but only had a casual in-the-background-listen so far. Still having to finish that fucking thing for university... Thanks Д.Д. for recommending it to me! ubu

thanks for that, Nate! Will check the links, but headin' home now! finally out of the office... into bad depressing weather... ubu

Back to the points of drummers with Cecil: in his early years (make them 1956 to 1961, from "Jazz Advance" to the Candid stuff, the tracks from "Into the Hot" being the link to the next phase beginning in '62 with "Nefertiti"), Taylor played/recorded with the following: - Dennis Charles (on "Jazz Advance", "Looking Ahead", and most of the Candid sessions) - Rudy Collins (on "Love For Sale") - Billy Higgins (on some the large group and two trio tracks for Candid) - Louis Hayes (on the album with Coltrane, "Hard Driving Jazz") Who of these drummers do you think fit best with Taylor and why? As I stated already, in my opinion, Charles (who most often was Taylor's drummer) does not always fit in perfectly. I like the way he's swinging, but face to face with Cecil it just seems a little stiff from time to time. On "Jazz Advance", however, and maybe on "Looking Ahead", too, Charles is still relatively well-fitting into the music, Taylor being only on his way then to develop his unique rhythmic conception. The Coltrane date is a whole other affair. An intriguing thing, yet not successful, I think. I cannot comment on Hayes (nor on Israels) as I would have to listen seriously to that again. Rudy Collins, in my opinion, does a very good job on "Love For Sale" - I particularly like the three Cole Porter tunes done with just the trio. I would need a closer listen to this album as well to make more comments. Now Billy Higgins: he seems a rather improbable partner for Taylor, but, to my surprise, he is great on the (freely improvised?) trio track "Cindy's Main Mood" (from "New York City R'n'B", Candid), and he's also better than Charles, in my opinion, on the "O.P." Oscar Pettiford tribute (the Higgins version is on the NYC R'n'B album, the Charles on some other CD, probably "Cell Walk For Celeste", Candid, too). I still have to listen to the larger group, however for my ears, the swing/time/general playing style of Higgins fits in quite well with Taylor. He's laying a much denser foundation, providing more sound in general than Charles, and I do like this. Other opinions here? Or how about some discussion on Taylor's later drummers? The masterful Sunny Murray, who changed a whole lot, and arrived in the right time to join in with Jimmy Lyons and some other new faces. Andrew Cyrille is another master, judging from the few things I heard with him. Then there were Ronald Shannon Jackson, Marc Edwards, later Tony Oxley, and some others (whose work with Taylor I do not know very well). ubu

I got this last week and found time for a (rather casual but not fully distracted) listen on sunday. Like it very much! thanks for that recommendation! ubu

and another one, more Graewe, Gratkowski, Butcher, Van Hove, Oxley... http://www.nuscoperec.com/homepage.htm ubu

and another one, taken from the links page from the last: http://www.meniscusrecords.com/ never heard of them, but that Gratkowski/Graewe/Lovens disc and some others as well sound interesting! ubu

Thanks, John - sounds even better now! German amazon has it for 62 euros, shipping to switzerland they will deduct vat, which would make it maybe 55 euros, then add some 10 to 15 euros for customs again... if not for that last part, I'd consider this a very good prize! Hey, in our older tradition of recommending record labels: I got this from the Vijay Ayer thread in the Artists section, and I do think it does look interesting: http://www.482music.com/ Anybody knows some of their releases? ubu

that Chapin set sounds great! I never heard him, but as I like having a head start with interesting music/musicians, I shall consider this one! any comments about Chapin? ubu

yeah, please do! The site does look interesting - however it does not offer a complete view of the catalogue, which is rather a pain... Actually I should stop buying CD just as you posted recently. Too much unheard stuff lying around, and being short of money all the time also starts getting on my nerves. ubu

Here's the link to that other thread: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...880&hl=amougies ubu

Thanks a lot for these comments, brownie! Really appreciated. I did not know the origin of the Charly label. And neither did I know about the BYG label. I'll look for that thread on the festival. Missed that one. ubu

How about all those Rashied Ali discs? http://www.knittingfactory.com/labels/biop...bCat_Selected=1 ubu

how come you think Knitting Factory is out of order? Their website does not look like that! They state that their store is under repair, nothing more. I only have that Charles Gayle 2CD set I mentioned here some days ago, and from Knit Classics I have the Dizzy for President disc (not that good, but I could pick it up very cheap, too), and the great Wildflowers 3CD set. Any essential records from either KF or Knit Classics? ubu

I picked up the Taylor "Student Studies" CD last week - and it is great! Soundwise not, however. I'm no audiophile, but I would like to hear Alan Silva if he's already listed on the cover... Liners by... Scott Yanow (lol - he does not much more than four short bios of the musicians). In stores here I saw three different series of BYG reissues: - one on some strange italian label - not sure it's get back, ugly mini-LP-gatefold covers, cheap looking, much overprized (something like 25$ at least). Original LPs, so you pay 50$ to get the two Cherry "Mu"s which could fit on one CD, I think. Crazy. - Charly reissues, rather cheap, coupling LPs together when possible (I saw the Moncur in this incarnation recently) - Fuel2000 - covers not bad, sound not great, judging from the Taylor disc. Anyone understands why there is not ONE label doing DECENT and WELL REMASTERED and annotated reissues of this material?? ubu

Got the steam from ubu. Thanks a lot. Will listen today. cool! that was almost fast for x-mas time and generally rather slow postal services... Please tell me how you like the Ortega, too! ubu

Д.Д., you have this one? (since you did subscribe) I found it used (but new, maybe from some reviewer who didn't like it) for some 6 CHF (which, mind me, is a FUCKING good prize for an Intakt release, no?), and I really like it! That track with Farfisa is cool, and the balance they find between free improvisation and (at times rather smooth) grooves is very cool with me! ubu

thanks! Hey, but no one cares for some comments on the music? ubu

thanks for teaching me, but I really, REALLY think I can live without that! ubu