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John - let me first express my respect for all your knowledge about Prez! Could you please indicate the volumes of the Basie Masters of Jazz which include (or mostly include) broadcasts? I think I got to look for this stuff! ubu

Here you are, James: September 4, 1956, Radio Recorders, Hollywood (A) Ben Webster ts, Stuff Smith v, Paul Smith p, Barney Kessel g, Joe Mondragon b, Alvin Stoller d. On (-1): Barney Kessel g, only. 20252-4 I Let A Song Go Out Of My Heart (Ellington-Mills-Nemo-Redmond) (4:09) 2,4 20253-1 Rocks In My Bed (Ellington) (3:56) 1,16 20254-3 Cotton Tail (Ellington) (3:24) 1,12 20255-1 Just Squeeze Me (But Don?t Tease Me) (Ellington-Gaines) (4:15) 2,1 20256-4 Do Nothin? Till You Hear From Me (Ellington-Russell) (7:40) 1,13 20257-2 Solitude (Ellington-DeLange) (2:06) (-1) 1,15 20258-6 Sophisticated Lady (Ellington-Brown-Hardwicke-Parish) (5:19) 1,18 20259-2 Just A-Sittin? And A-Rockin? (Ellington-Strayhorn-Gaines) (3:32) 1,14 20260-1 It Don?t Mean A Thing (If It Ain?t Got That Swing) (Ellington-Mills) (4:13) 2,2 20261-4 Prelude To A Kiss (Ellington-Gordon) (5:27) 2,7 20262-1 Don?t Get Around Much Anymore (Ellington-Hodges-Russell) (5:00) 2,6 20263-3 Satin Doll (Ellington-Mercer-Strayhorn) (3:28) 1,17 20264-2 Azure (Ellington-Mills) (2:20) (-1) 2,3 20265-5 In A Sentimental Mood (Ellington-Kurtz) (2:45) (-1) 2,5 June 24, 1957, Fine Recording, NYC (B ) Cat Anderson t, Willie Cook t, Clark Terry t, Quentin Jackson tb, Britt Woodman tb, John Sanders vtb, Jimmy Hamilton cl/ts, Russell Procope as/cl, Johnny Hodges as, Frank Foster ts, Harry Carney bs/bcl/cl, Billy Strayhorn p, Jimmy Woode b, Sam Woodyard d. 21033-6 Day Dream (Strayhorn-Latouche) (3:58) 1,3 © same, add Harold Baker t, Dizzy Gillespie t, Ray Nance t, Ellington p, replaces Strayhorn. 21034-6 Take The ?A? Train (Billy Strayhorn) (6:40) 1,5 June 25, 1957, Fine Recording, NYC (D) Cat Anderson t, Willie Cook t, Ray Nance or Harold Baker t, Clark Terry t, Quentin Jackson tb, Britt Woodman tb, John Sanders vtb, Jimmy Hamilton cl/ts, Russell Procope as/cl, Johnny Hodges as, Paul Gonsalves ts, Harry Carney bs/bcl/cl, Duke Ellington p, Jimmy Woode b, Sam Woodyard d. Add Mercer Ellington claves, trumpet secton also play cowbells (-1). 21036-6 Everything But You (Ellington-James-George) (2:55) 2,15 21037-6 I Got It Bad (And That Ain?t Good) (Ellington-Webster) (6:12) 2,16 21038-3 Drop Me Off In Harlem (Ellington-Ch. Kenny-N. Kenny) (3:49) 1,2 21039-4 Lost In Meditation (Ellington-Singer-Tizol) (3:25) (-1) 1,10 21040-4 I Ain?t Got Nothin? But The Blues (Ellington-George) (4:41) 1,6 June 26, 1957, Fine Recording, NYC (E) Cat Anderson t, Willie Cook t, Ray Nance or Harold Baker t, Clark Terry t, Quentin Jackson tb, Britt Woodman tb, John Sanders vtb, Jimmy Hamilton cl/ts, Russell Procope as/cl, Johnny Hodges as, Frank Foster ts, Harry Carney bs/bcl/cl, Duke Ellington p (-1), Billy Strayhorn p (-2), Jimmy Woode b, Sam Woodyard d. 21049-2 Clementine (Billy Strayhorn) (2:39) (-2) 1,7 21050-1 I?m Just A Lucky So And So (Ellington-David) (4:13) (-1) 2,13 21051-12 I?m Beginning To See The Light (Ellington-Hodges-James-George) (3:25) (-1) 1,9 21052-2 I Didn?t Know About You (Ellington-Russell) (4:12) (-1) 1,8 21053-3 Rockin? In Rhythm (Carney-Ellington) (5:18) (-1) 1,1 June 27, 1957, Fine Recording, NYC (F) same as (D). 21063-3 All Too Soon (Ellington-Sigman) (4:22) 2,14 21064-8 Caravan (Ellington-Tizol-Mills) (3:53) 1,4 21065-7 Bli-Blip (Ellington-Kuller) (3:02) 2,17 21066 Chelsea Bridge (Rehearsals) (Billy Strayhorn) 3,4-11 21066-8 Chelsea Bridge (Billy Strayhorn) (3:23) 3,1 21067-4 Perdido (Tizol-Lengsfelder-Drake) (6:12) 1,11 21068-2 The E And D Blues (E For Ella, D For Duke) (Ellington-Strayhorn) (4:50) 3,3 September 2, 1957, Universal Recording Studio, Chicago (G) Cat Anderson t, Harold Baker t, Willie Cook t, Clark Terry t, Quentin Jackson tb, Britt Woodman tb, John Sanders vtb, Jimmy Hamilton cl/ts, Russell Procope as/cl, Johnny Hodges as, Paul Gonsalves ts, Harry Carney bs/bcl/cl, Ellington p, Jimmy Woode b, Sam Woodyard d. Portrait Of Ella Fitzgerald (Ellington-Strayhorn) (16:16) 3,2 1. 21557 Ellington Introduction 2. 21380-13 First Movement: Royal Ancestry 3. 21557 Ellington Introduction 4. 21381-12 Second Movement: All Heart 5. 21557 Ellington Introduction 6. 21382-7 Third Movement: Beyond Category 7. 21557 Ellington-Strayhorn Introduction 8. 21383-4 Fourth Movement: Total Jazz 21381-1 All Heart (Rehearsal) (Ellington-Strayhorn) (3:54) 3,12 21381-3/6/8 All Heart (Alternate Takes) (Ellington-Strayhorn) 3, 13-15 Note: Parts 1,3,5 & 7 (Master 21557) were recorded October 3, 1957, Fine Recording, NYC, Billy Strayhorn p, Duke Ellington narration; on Part 7: add Ellington piano, Strayhorn narration. October 17, 1957, Capitol Studios, Hollywood (H) Ben Webster ts, Oscar Peterson p, Herb Ellis g, Ray Brown b, Alvin Stoller d. On (-1) omit Webster and Stoller. On (-2) Peterson p, only. 21773-5 In A Mellow Tone (Ellington-Gabler) (5:09) 2,9 21774-6 Mood Indigo (Bigard-Ellington-Parish) (3:26) (-1) 2,8 21775-8 Love You Madly (Ellington) (4:39) 2,10 21776-11/12 Lush Life (Ellington-Strayhorn) (3:37) (-2) 2,11 21777-9 Squatty Roo (Hodges-Fitzgerald) (3:39) 2,12 There might be some typos... ubu

Thats good to know. I just ordered both New Dance and Scattered Clouds yesterday. Please do keep us informed how you like them once you heard them! I was basing my statement on the opinions of another seasoned board member, free jazz fanatic, and in my opinion very reliable source (see more in the "Funny Rat" thread). I will certainly have to get the two Hats before they're OOP (which might be rather soon, I'm afraid). ubu

There's some other fine stuff around from Miles around the same years - some tracks with J.J., Getz, Dameron, Gene Ramey & Blakey, some with J.J., Brew Moore, Dameron, Curly Russell and Blakey, and from '49 some with Konitz, George Lewis, Russell and Max Roach. Will we see these in a well-remastered Blue Note edition, too? Cool to hear Miles with Brew Moore, or rather: Brew Moore with Miles. ubu

Thanks brownie! Sounds like a real winner. I remember having read some very positive review in Downbeat, I think. ubu

Thanks for the information, brownie! Got to look for Prez Vol. 6 at least! ubu

I have "On Evidence", too. Found it used recently for almost nothing. However, it seems it's far from being as good as the Hats (which I both have to pick up yet). I love the Mal Waldron tune at the end, though. ubu

Milan, the one from Germany is this here: Frankfurt 1952 (two post above you have the link to AMG) Mike has mentioned this one, too. We can save some and get these, Milan. At least those from the fifties do sound interesting (Frankfurt 52, Stockholm '55, Carnegie '49 - not on Verve set, I guess? -, and Hartfort & Tokoy '53. Still: anyone able to comment on any of these discs? And: is that Pablo/Fantasy Carnegie Hall 49 CD NOT in the JATP Complete 44-49 box? Anyone can confirm this? thanks, ubu (PS: Milan, I jumped over the fence and yesterday finally ordered the Basie Decca (in GRP version) from Amazon. They'll send it out today! WOWEE!)

Wow, Jim, thanks for that great "evaluatory" post on EH! Really enjoyed reading, and totally agree with what you said! ubu

You can get the Basie for the same amount on Amazon Germany (which for me would be cheaper, as VAT is deducted and shipping free - while 2001 charges I think 8.5 Euros for shipping). The prize for the Miles J.J. is a not bad, but Amazon France has it for 61.60 Euros. ubu

Thanks, brownie. Do you have these CDs? The Basies and the Prez'? If so, could you (or anybody else who has them) please indicate which volumes do include rare stuff or broadcasts, and maybe add what exactly (date would suffice, I could then check with the Porter disco) - that would be GREAT! thanks, ubu

Anyone has an idea where I could find the Hanna plays Wilder (as well as the Al Haig album in the same Helen Merrill presents Gitanes/Universal series)? I was looking for them for some time, alas with no luck. I do not own any Hanna records, besides his sideman work with Mingus (Lon's comment re. Hanna/Byard is one which pretty well describes my perception of Hanna - interesting that they both worked with Charles Mingus!) and on the Thad Jones/Mel Lewis Mosaic - where he absolutely stands out! I find myself very often listening to the rhythm section when spinning those discs. Hanna/Davis/Lewis were something else! ubu

Thanks for the Harlem link, Milan. Well, I read all the Prez discussions - exhaustive, fascinating, full of information and interesting news, ideas, perceptions, and emotions. It seems like I'm starting on a real Prez-trip myself... What a pity the french Masters of Jazz are no longer around! It seems those discs would have been quite a good documentation of the Prez' music. Did they also include widely available studio dates? Or broadcasts and rare live material only? ubu

Glad to hear about this! Service just as good as Mosaic! And you're sure gonna like the Byrd! Why not ask them to send the Sacha Distel, too? Maybe they could give you that one as a gift... ubu

That was what I thought when I started this discussion, then it came to my mind that I read something somewhere about a Getz-influence (maybe it was that quote Mike posted, maybe somewhere else, I can't remember) - however, Getz or not Getz, Prez is there for sure! And what he makes out of it is COMPLETELY unique, I'd say, too. (And I did not start this discussion to diss EH in any way - I love his music ever since I first heard him, which must be 10 years back, very early in my jazz-trip, high school... and some funny remembrances, too.) ubu

HELLYEAH! king ubu maybe IS deranged, but certainly he never even tried to be that thing called "gentleman". Read the site linked in my signature to find out more on that topic... ubu by the way, before I forget ARCANA MAJOR IS DA SHIT

Fantasy lists some more: http://www.fantasyjazz.com/catalog/jatp_cat.html and http://www.fantasyjazz.com/catalog/jatp_cat2.html Several by some artist, some of those Montreux jams, and: - Stockholm 1955, The Exciting Battle - the recently released JATP at Carnegie Hall 1949 - JATP the Greatest Concert in the World (3CD) - JATP, Jazz at the Santa Monica Civic '72 (3CD) Anyone can comment on any of the available releases? ubu

AMG: some available CDs: Frankfurt 1952 Hartford 1953 Tokyo 1953 London 1969 Montreux 1975 Montreux again Tokyo 1983 OOP or not on CD material: Trumpet Battle 1952 (mentioned before) Krupa / Rich (also mentioned before) Then AMG mentions 10 LPs (not yet on CD) released in 1983. And things seem to be pretty chaotic... I gotta look for some of this stuff! ubu

Yes! I have this one, excellent indeed! But no sign of JATP on that cover, yes? I did not check. ubu

upping this, couldn't find it last night. James, you're gonna get the info tonight! ubu

By the way, Mike, - off topic - speaking of players, saxophone players that is, who merged swing/thirties elements with bop and later influences, one musician who stands out in my book, and who, amazingly enough is still around and going very very strong, is Benny Golson. I am a huge fan of his playing, although I have only four or five of his records. Some solo, I think on the opening tune, on "Golson and the Philadelphians" (recently on BN CD, now OOP) always kills me again! ubu

But only the sound!!! Eddie's choice of notes is entirely different from Getz'!!! That quote is very very fitting! He uses that "cool" sound but the "hot" phrasing of the advanced hard bop school. There is no other cat who could have written Freedom Jazz Dance or Mean Greens! This is some phrasing even different from Rollins or Trane. I hear a parallel to Lucky Thompson, who managed to cross the rhapsodic attitude of Hawkins with the fluidity of Don Byas and the lightness of Lester Young. Very individual mixtures of influences! Yes, you're right, Mike, I forgot to specify sound when talking of the Getz influence. Moreover, it's like a Getz-sound on alto (but not too close to Desmond or Konitz), that Harris had. Of course his whole style is completely his own - and this is one reason more why it's so sad that so many jazz fans dismissed him! He was completely his own man, playing tenor in front of a classic rhythm section (those Walton/Carter/Higgins dates, MAN!, or the marvellous Echo of Harlem ), doing his electric thing (Silver Cycle is great, so are Electrifying E.H.), as a composer, too ("Freedom Jazz Dance", "Listen Here", "Sham Time", "Funkaroma"...), as well as a piano-player/singer (a true hyphenated!) and entertainer. An album I recently got and like a lot is this one: For Bird to Bags (AMG) I think it is OOP now, but it may still be around. Reissued by Koch. (links etc working as I am supposed to be working, and am not using my notebook) ubu

Ubu, the link is right there! Problem solved? Mike, problem not solved at all! I just copied the URL directly into the text field and it works. brownie: I think I saw that Ellington CD once. Thanks for your information. That Frankfurt disc sounds cool, gotta look for it. ubu

Thanks for the info on the Granz Jams, Chuck! Brad, there's a Cannonball CD from 1960, too: http://www.fantasyjazz.com/catalog/adderley_c_cat2.html (sorry, I can't add links at the moment) ubu

Mike, I read that quote somewhere, too. Getz would be the closest influence on sax, I think, yes. There's one EH CD I have from early nineties I think where he does some piano and singing, too. Very funny stuff! ubu