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Got to check out "Dissonant Characters" today. But I will only again be able to post on Friday. ubu

Matthew, let us know what you think about this music! (I don't have that Brötz disc, being in the "entering stage" still, as far as he is concerned) ubu

And how about yodelling? There's a swiss trumpet player, Hans Kennel, who is supposed to do pretty interesting things on alphorn. And the group "Pago Libre" with John Wolf Brennan also used it to good results. While I'm not at all a fan of swiss folklore, I think in the right hands the alphorn can be pretty cool! ubu

The Watkins albums have wordless vocals on some tracks by a rather operatic sounding singer - he wanted a different color, using the voice like an instrument. I love them, though, and I would advice anybody with only a trace of interest in Watkins to get the two Atlantic LPs which are available on two Koch CDs, as long as they are around, they swing harder than the Dawn sessions, one has an extended group with Sahib Shihab that will appeal the most to the board members here. Atlantic: Dawn: Mike, thanks for posting the covers, I was too lazy... I don't have the Atlantic/Koch discs - do they have a website (Koch, I mean)? And do you know a good place where to get them cheap? Add the Blue Note 10" Conn! There's the most hunting french horn I ever heard! ubu

Got mail from Mosaic - the Jazztet set will be 7 CD ( ) and include the following: MEET THE JAZZTET Argo LP 664 - recorded February 1960 THE JAZZTET - BIG CITY SOUNDS Argo LP 672 - Recorded September 1960 THE JAZZTET & JOHN LEWIS Argo LP 684 - recorded December 1960/January 1961 THE JAZZTET AT BIRDHOUSE Argo LP 688 - recorded May 1961 THE JAZZTET - HERE AND NOW Mercury SR 60698 - recorded Feb/March 1962 THE JAZZTET - ANOTHER GIT TOGETHER Mercury SR 60737 - recorded May/June 1962 ART FARMER - ART Argo LP 678 - recorded September 1960 ART FARMER - PERCEPTION Argo LP 738 - recorded October 1961 BENNY GOLSON - TURNING POINT Mercury SR 20801 - recorded November 1962 BENNY GOLSON - FREE Argo LP 716 - recorded December 26, 1962 BENNY GOLSON - TAKE A NUMBER FROM 1 TO !0 Argo LP 681 - recorded December 1960 & April 1961 LISTEN TO ART FARMER AND THE ORCHESTRA Mercury SR 60766 - recorded Aug 1962 This is cool news! I know about half of these albums, and love every bit of them! And it's cool they're including "Art", "Perception" (coupled on one of those discs were Keepnews decided to omit two titles), "Listen to A.F. And The Orchestra", as well as Golson's "Free" and "Take A Number From 1 To 10"! All very cool records! As I have several of them on those rather cheap b/w Argo reissues (Jazztet Meets Lewis, Golson 1-10) on LP only, I will certainly get that set! ubu

Yes indeed! This looks very interesting! Hope they do a better job than with the JATP set! ubu

Hey, Shorter will be in there, too, won't he? The Berlin concert will be part of the box, as far as I know! And that's a GREAT concert! For me, the 1964 recordings (Four&More and My Funny Valentine) have always been some sort of sentimental favorites. I got them very early in my jazz "career", and ever since loved them. The band was sooo good that night! And Coleman... By the way, the liners mention some music being played not on the two LPs/CDs - hope we'll get some additional material! On the Mobley thing - yes, this really sucks! I never really understood why they couldn't just include "Someday" as sort of a bonus in the Miles/Trane box. ubu

Mathews' Dawn recordings can be found here: http://www.freshsoundrecords.com/catalogue...bel&label_id=10 I have not yet picked them up, but I'm inclined to get the whole Dawn catalogue some day. The only record with him I have, a CD, actually, is Joe Puma's "Wild Kitten", also on Dawn, also available where the link leads you. Pretty good stuff, in my opinion! The Dawn catalogue has several nice things, among them two CDs by the Jazz Modes (for French horn freaks ), a nice Dick Garcia disc (with Bill Evans on some, Gene Quill on some other tracks), a nice Randy Weston disc, and a then, highly recommended, Paul Quinichette's "Complete Dawn Recordings". ubu

Waiting for the Atlantic New Orleans to arrive. ubu

Hand Jive: AMG It's a pretty relaxed blowing affair, but there's some beautiful playing by all involved. ubu

No problem! Makes it even more interesting, that you come to have the same thought without being aware of it having been disussed before. Lon's statements makes sense, too - while it does not exclude what Mike said. I will have to keep this parallel (or the question if I can hear it) in mind when I listen to Eddie or Rahsaan the next time. By the way, another recording with Eddie I really like is the Blue Note disc he made with John Scofield! Some beautiful stuff there, and with Larry Goldings also on hand, groove's for sure! ubu

In my opinion, Mike's post sums this up in a good way. I don't see a parallel, but I guess I see why you could think of one. ubu

Thanks for keeping us updated (shoot the messenger! ) I really hope there's going to be good news about this! ubu

I guess having problems with the clarinet is the perspective of a listener of bebop and later styles. I myself have nothing against the clarinet, there are several musicians I really like - Jimmy Giuffre being the first one that comes to mind. Then all the older guys, Jimmy Hamilton, Barney Bigard, Edmond Hall, some musicians not usually thought of as clarinet players like Harry Carney (also on bass clarinet, on his strings album), or Lester Young. Then there's Pee Wee Russell... I listened to some Jelly Roll this morning, and Omer Simeon sure is a great musician! And these are just the players that come to mind instantly. On the other hand, musicians like Tony Scott or Buddy DeFranco (who sure had lots of technique at their disposal, and that is something, on the clarinet - a very hard instrument to master!) may sound shrill every now and again. DeFranco certainly was no perfect match for the Basie small group, for instance (his replacement Marshall Royal fits in a lot better, I think), and Scott was too outgoing at moments, I think (for instance on some tracks of the otherwise real good quartet albums with Bill Evans). Now this has not much to do with the instrument at hand (there's some terrible tenor players, too), but rather with the way it is played, it is approached. The recordings Giuffre and Russell made together, for instance, are far from being shrill, and belong to my favorite clarinet recordings. I guess to get to like the clarinet, there's two or three ways: if you like avant garde, get the Giuffre/Bley/Swallow early sixties records (a 2CD set on ECM reissuing two Verve LPs, as well as Giuffre's masterpiece "Free Fall" on Columbia/Sony/Legacy). If you like west coast jazz, try some Giuffre Atlantic stuff. And if you like early jazz, well, you like the clarinet. Rather: the third way (in case you're not into early jazz that much), check out some of the musicians I mentioned (sure, there are many more, Sidney Bechet, Albert Nicholas...), and maybe this will start a new love affair between you and the clarinet, and you and early jazz... ubu

The ill wind that nobody blows good! O c'mon! There's some pretty good Lateef things on oboe! Check out his See See Rider with Zawinul/Sam Jones/Louis Hayes on Cannonball in Europe (the Adderleys lay out on that track), or his playing on "Brother John" on Cannonball's Nippon Soul... I wouldn't be without that! ubu

Think of Eddie who without it! ubu

DAMN!!!! WHAT?!? holy crap! Who would have done it? Revenant? And: why did the estate agree with Ayler Record's Copenhagen disc?!? ubu

I think I never actually saw it in a shop, but Amazon France will certainly help (and as they offer the Jazz in Paris discs for around 6 Euros currently... killing my bank account again!) ubu

That's another good one, regarding Timmons! Jackie and Lee Morgan are both a little rough - which is cool, but gets on my nerves a little bit, and doesn't make "Lee Way" the Morgan disc I listen the most. Timmons is very good on it, though! ubu

Well, let's hope they NEVER EVER AGAIN produce any of these dreaded scaled down versions any more! When entering jazz, I ordered the Sonny Rollins, in a shop here in Zurich, and they got me the ZYX version, full prize of course! Shit! There's an alphabetical list of musicians, a list of tunes, and the liners (which are good) - with help of the liners and internet, you can make guesses at who was involved in what tunes, what tunes were done on what date etc... 175 CHF! When I found out about this a few months later!!! Nothing low budget about swiss imports of ZYX stuff! However, most important is the music, and that I AM enjoying a lot... But: last summer there was a shop in Zurich main station carrying lots of ZYX/Fantasy (US-remasterings) discs, for around 8 Euros, and I bought around 20 of them, probably almost all they had... ubu

I listened to the Maeght recording yesterday (the Water reissue). "Spirits Rejoice" is indeed a great piece of music! I am very glad though the producer chose to omit most of the tracks with Ayler's then partner on vocals and soprane sax... Matthew, thanks a lot for posting these excerpts! Funny to read! (But of course you almost always know more than the testee when reading old BFTs...) Pity though they did not play more of Ayler's earlier (1964) records! I would have wondered how musicians did react to "Spiritual Unity", for instance, or to some recording with Don Cherry. Anyone has new infos regarding the box set? ubu

deus, it was as I said: And by the way, don't forget, I'm the god of this thread! As a creator I have the power to let it vanish any time... ubu

EKE, you know of course that also EKE played electric piano... There's no instrument I really dislike - it's more the use of an instrument that can get on my nerves. Synthesizer, then would be the most obvious thing, in my case. (I once read an interview with Joe Zawinul, where he showed himself very astonished that such great musicians as Herbie Hancock would loose the last bit of taste when playing synths...) Uh, I like the flute, I like vibes, I like organs (though Glenn Hardman on that date with Lester Young... as I said the use of can bother me), also I like the violin, the accordion... and the soprano sax - I cannot listen to Shorter on soprano all the time. Trane's alright with me, as is Steve Lacy (most often). ubu

Took this from the site I linked above - no idea if it really is accurate. But it will give some sort of an idea nevertheless: (just found out that the link was in the thread Lon killed, here it comes again: http://www.jazzdisco.org/verve/) As this site lists only four of these jam sessions, let's hope we get loads of additional material! (Maybe they could add the JATP things not in the box set...) Norman Granz' Jam Session Charlie Shavers (tp) Benny Carter, Johnny Hodges, Charlie Parker (as) Flip Phillips, Ben Webster (ts) Oscar Peterson (p) Barney Kessel (g) Ray Brown (B) J.C. Heard (d) Radio Recorders, Hollywood, CA, July, 1952 802-2 Jam Blues Mercury MGC 601, Clef MGC 4001, MGC 601, MGC 651, Verve MGV 8049, V/V6 8486, VE2 2508 803-3 What Is This Thing Called Love? Mercury MGC 602, Clef MGC 4002, MGC 602, MGC 652, Verve MGV 8050, V/V6 8486, VE2 2508 804-2 Ballad Medley Mercury MGC 601, Clef MGC 4001, MGC 601, MGC 651, Verve MGV 8049, MGV 8002, MGV 8100 3, VE2 2508 805-2 Funky Blues Mercury MGC 602, Clef MGC 4002, MGC 602, MGC 652, Verve MGV 8050, V/V6 8409, V/V6 8486, V3HB 8840, VE2 2508 * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #1 (Mercury MGC 601, Clef MGC 4001, MGC 601, MGC 651, Verve MGV 8049) * Funky Blues / The JATP All Stars (Verve V/V6 8486) * The Charlie Parker Sides / Norman Granz' Jam Session (Verve VE2 2508) * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #2 (Mercury MGC 602, Clef MGC 4002, MGC 602, MGC 652, Verve MGV 8050) * The Charlie Parker Story, #3 (Verve MGV 8002) * The Charlie Parker Story (Verve MGV 8100 3) * The Essential Charlie Parker (Verve V/V6 8409) * Return Engagement / Charlie Parker (Verve V3HB 8840) Norman Granz' Jam Session Harry Edison (tp) Buddy DeFranco (cl) Benny Carter, Willie Smith (as) Stan Getz, Wardell Gray (ts) Arnold Ross (p -3,4) Count Basie (p -1,2, org -3) Freddie Green (g) John Simmons (B) Buddy Rich (d) Los Angeles, CA, August 3, 1953 1. 1259-6 Apple Jam Clef MGC 4003, MGC 653, Verve MGV 8051, VSP 31 2. 1260-2 Lady Be Good Clef MGC 4004, MGC 654, Verve MGV 8052 3. 1261-2 Blues for the Count - 4. 1262-4 Ballad Medley Clef MGC 4003, MGC 653, Verve MGV 8051 * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #3 (Clef MGC 4003, MGC 653, Verve MGV 8051) * Stan Getz Plays Blues (Verve VSP 31) * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #4 (Clef MGC 4004, MGC 654, Verve MGV 8052) Norman Granz' Jam Session Roy Eldridge, Dizzy Gillespie (tp) Johnny Hodges (as) Illinois Jacquet, Flip Phillips, Ben Webster (ts) Lionel Hampton (vib) Oscar Peterson (p) Ray Brown (B) Buddy Rich (d) NYC, September 2, 1953 1280-3 Jam Blues Clef MGC 711, Verve MGV 8094 1281-3 Blue Lou Clef MGC 677, Verve MGV 8062 1282-3 Just You, Just Me - 1283-3 Ballad Medley Clef MGC 711, Verve MGV 8094 1284-3 Jammin' for Clef Clef MGC 4005, MGC 655, Verve MGV 8053 1285-2 Blue Room - * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #8 (Clef MGC 711, Verve MGV 8094) * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #7 (Clef MGC 677, Verve MGV 8062) * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #5 (Clef MGC 4005, MGC 655, Verve MGV 8053) Norman Granz' Jam Session Roy Eldridge, Dizzy Gillespie (tp) Bill Harris (tb) Buddy DeFranco (cl) Flip Phillips (ts) Oscar Peterson (p) Herb Ellis (g) Ray Brown (B) Louis Bellson (d) NYC, October 30, 1954 2032-1 Stompin' at the Savoy, Pt. 1 Clef MGC 656 2033-1 Stompin' at the Savoy, Pt. 2 - 2034-1 Lullaby in Rhythm Verve MGV 8196 2035-1 Funky Blues No. 2 - * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #6 (Clef MGC 656) * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #9 (Verve MGV 8196) ubu

Thanks Brad! I'd love to find these two CDs! As I said, all EXCEPT the Spotlite are OOP. I will get some of these Spotlite discs as soon as I can! thanks, ubu