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Okay, 5-hours-plus sounds like a pretty long version ... I just bought the Abbado 4-disc-set which allows you to put together your own version, I think ... there's a lot to read in the booklet, but haven't started exploring that or listening. The more common (I guess) italian 4-act-version only needs 3 discs and I think the version I mentioned seeing on telly was a four hour thing (including a lenghty break in which they conducted some short interviews with a few singers etc). Quite a treat, I guess, but only if you can take the day off and sleep long and be wide awake all evening!

That does sound good! And good playlists as well, of course! Don't forget to throw in some Barney now and then

Tate Houston, yup ... the BN album with Curtis Fuller was probably where I first really heard him. Played some of "The Arrival of KD" last night, and I guess you're onto something there, Jim! Was too tired to really listen, but will repeat that soon! Sometimes you need some kind of a nudge to really hop onto stuff and dig it. Re: Gullin, I guess Big Beat Steve might be well-equipped to give some specific recommendations.

"Don Carlos" is pretty darn great I'd say! Saw a pretty good one on TV (from Munich, I think?) with Anja Harteros (she's great!) and Jonas Kaufmann (so is he). Guess I'd try and catch it on stage if I could. Italian or French version? And I guess 4-act, rather than 5-act?

Thanks for elaborating! I don't really know his playing all that well yet ... any particular recommendations? Time to dig up that last Mobley rekkid again, I think ... what else? Joe's recs of the KD Time & Jaro (did he hit both of those?) & Steve Lacy Candid are spot-on, and for later work, try Super 80 on Nilva. The Mobley album is great, imo, butnot in the manner of GREAT, if you know what I mean, more like, oh look mommy, that man is pissing on the wall, and it's ok baby, that man is a genius who's just had a hard time, but mommy, it' still piss, yes baby, it is, but it is GOD'S piss, gee mommy are you drunk, don't ask baby, lust keep walking, mommy's got to see this man over here, I'll be right back, mommy, are you having a hard time too, yes baby, Mommy's having a hard time, everybody has hard times, and when we do, we piss on walls sometimes sometimes we get out of room. So if you have an aversion to seeing geniuses piss on walls because they're peoples who are out of rooms, hey, this will NOT be the record for you, ok?. Me, I love it for the blood, which is kinda like piss when it comes out like this. You can also get him on a lot of early Ra things, and Elvin's Illumination! the cat was never "high profile" for whatever reasons, but he was there, and he could play. I forgot the Jaro date, somehow. And the Nilva, which I've never seen or heard. Got to remedy that. http://www.charlesdavis.biz/recordings.html Okay, definitely got to listen with my ears attuned! Thanks much guys! And yeah, with Ibrahim I've heard him, I mean I really did hear him on at least one of those albums - how could I forget? But I never seem to have hooked up on the same level with his early stuff ... but then the KDs are fairly recent arrivals and haven't really been explored to any extent yet - and the Lacy Candid, while having been part of this household for a dozen years, hasn't really clicked so far. Maybe this is the moment ... will dig up and play one of the KDs right now as I sail off into night

Thanks for elaborating! I don't really know his playing all that well yet ... any particular recommendations? Time to dig up that last Mobley rekkid again, I think ... what else?

I guess I need a new signature: "Now Charles Davis, yes, listen to Charles Davis, he will grow your hair and improve you ability to have the sex life." And hellyeah for Gullin! :tup Was just shooting a quick post whilst at work and had to mention Chaloff most of all ... though I've not connected with "Boston Blow Up" nearly as much as with "Blue Serge", which is a big favourite of mine. Definitely has a lot to do with the rhythm section: Sonny Clark and Philly Joe are favourites, and Leroy Vinnegar is indeed jazz' great walker and brings ounzes of good feeling wherever he treads.

Sahib Shihab as well, as far as classic bop era players go. There were others of course ... for section playing, I still think Carney smokes everybody's ass (and Pepper Adams took care of the rest). Leo Parker comes to mind, too - check out his recordings for Blue Note and the ones with Illinois Jacquet (not just the Uptown, but that one as well!) As for Chaloff, this one here might well be my one favourite baritone saxophone album: some fine Bluiett here:

Joyeux anniversaire, mon ami! All the very best!

well, I can, but I don't want to go there not much of a seasonal listening person myself, but this thread reminds me I should re-read this:

Thanks Moms! I love Gardiner's recordings of Mozart's late operas ... but then I love Mozart's operas so dearly, they're one of the rare cases ("La Traviata" is another) where the mere *idea* of what I'm hearing is bigger than any actualisation of it ... which kinda has me enjoy even mediocre Mozart (like HvK's sped up "sporty" Così fan tutte - oh, how I wish they let Furtwängler conduct all those recordings with the Viennese Mozart ensemble of singers! The blend of voices is amazing, but Karajan just rushed by and cuts out so much, it all nearly falls apart - similar for Klemp's Magic Flute - hard for me to imagine a much better ensemble, but it falls apart in mere numbers ... he kinda turns the great singspiel into an old-fashioned opera seria). Anyway, I don't think Gardiner's Mozart opreas are mediocre, at least the (late) ones I've heard, I think they're pretty darn great. What do you think of Currentzis' Figaro, Moms? I found it a bit, how shall I put it ... balanced? But the playing and musicality of it all are of the highest order, I guess ... just would have wished for a tad more exuberance or craziness here and there. Not sure I need the Don Giovanni that's being released soon - haven't checked out who's singing there.

I've got the Meyer box - it's wonderful indeed! Wasn't tempted by the Nat ... And while I guess Buchbinder (modern) and Bilson (hip) would be my favourites in Mozart, there are many others I enjoy, namely Casadesus but yeah, also Perahia ...

you're in for a treat ... or rather dozens of treats!

Regarding Richard Davis ... always loved his playing with Mel Lewis - whackiest big band rhythm section this side of the avantgarde, I guess, with Roland Hanna on the keys! On those Solid State recordings, I often end up focussing on the rhythm section for quite a while! And yes, of course those Hill albums, and "Out to Lunch" - and the Booker Ervin ones with Byard/Davis/Dawson as well. Regarding Peter Trunk (because he's probably pretty unfamiliar to many): he's on Lucky Thompson's Candid date, and there's half a trio album as well (ts-b-d), shared with a Bud Powell trio. These were issued on the LT and Duke Jordan/Bud Powell discs of the "Original Vogue Masters" CD series, and I guess elsewhere - LP cover: details: http://www.discogs.com/Bud-Powell-Trio-Lucky-Thompson-Trio-Memorial-Oscar-Pettiford/release/4193370 (It's young Humair on the LT tracks, the Three Bosses on the rest)

Yup, mine were cancelled as well ... not unexpected of course.

good list my friend, so now please tell uns a special performance of the named bass players each !! Well, not really ... I read the original post and would not have provided this list if there would have been interest ONLY in particular performances. But regarding Ware, those recordings with Griffin do rock my world. Watkins I first heard on "The Cats" and I still love that album - he's also terrific on those Savoy sides with Morgie and the Hankster (I seem to remember particularly one or two tracks on "Introducing Lee Morgan"). As for Harry Miller: whenever he played with Louis Moholo - those two rock my world, always! No matter if with a mid-sized Westbrook band, some ZA combination or Peter Brötzmann, I just love their free bounce, Miller makes me smile. Israel Crosby ... well, each and any track with Jamal and Fournier, I guess - not a single bass solo if memory serves me right, but he's always *there* and he always delivers - must be one of the most integrated combos of all music. Mingus - just one: "Haitian Fight Song"! Weber - live solo gig and other concerts - wonderful boomy sound, no show off, even though he can pull some tricks. Same for Barry Guy - live was always mighty impressive, wouldn't be able to pin down any particular track on CD (I don't have many of his anyway - there's too much good stuff around and too little time to keep up with it ... this is the kind of music I prefer hearing live, after all). Pops Foster w/Luis Russell to me is musical heaven indeed! As for LaFaro ... well, I'm indeed not that big on him. Same for Bill Evans in general, actually. I like the trio (but I always wonder how it would have sounded with a Motian further into his career ... on these early sides he's still green and not doing too much - he was to turn into such a fine, idiosyncratic musician ....). Anyway, I like listening to those recordings, actually I guess I can say I love them, the mix of all things makes them great, but still, La Faro is just not a top favourite bass player of mine.

oh, and Addison Farmer!

as for favourite bass players in general ... I guess these might do for me: Pops Foster Wellman Braud Walter Page Junior Raglin Jimmie Blanton Israel Crosby Oscar Pettiford Charles Mingus Percy Heath Doug Watkins Wilbur Ware Peter Trunk Charlie Haden Jimmy Garrison David Izenzon Richard Davis Gary Peacock Art Davis Malachi Favors Fred Hopkins Wilber Morris Barry Guy Johnny Dyani Harry Miller Henri Texier Jean-Jacques Avenel Christian Weber also Sam Jones, George Tucker, Arthur Harper, Al Stinson, Cecil McBee ...

seems you might be able to get it from George Robert's website: http://new.georgerobert.com/lonelyeyes.html

Are you serious about Earl May? Hard to think of an even less unimaginative choice for Coltrane's trio session (even if that might have been an accident only) ... I'm not all that big on Paul Chambers, but give me Doug Watkins any day please! Earl May, however, to me makes "Lush Life" a rather boring record, definitely not among the top 5 of Coltrane's Prestige recordings - the title track is the great one on that album, as for the trio date, best of it all is the longer take of the blues that ended up on "The Last Trane" - there, Earl May sounds pretty good indeed, but on the three titles of the original album ... not really.

Tried my luck for the Zinman and the Perahia ... not holding my breath though. And re-ordered the Tebaldi from amazon.it which has it 10€ cheaper than @ .de. Not that it matters much as the custom naz*s will strike anyway, but ....

Very sad indeed - saw the group live once, a few years back, and he was pretty fantastic!

Just ordered mine from amazon.de - a tiny bit cheaper and free shipping ... of course custom fees and some VAT will be added, but I need this one!

I know one when I see one

not sure if a link is okay, so I rather don't ... but many of you folks here know about Johnny Trunk and some of the fine (and weird) stuff he brings to light - his 50p Friday offer of today's is "Something New from Africa", an LP I've known since I was a kid, as my parents own it (not sure, I think it might have "moved" into my own record shelf by now ) Miriam Makeba, Lemmy Special, Jimmy Pratt (he was with Bud Shank's quartet!) and many others can be heard ... closer to jive than to jazz, but a very entertaining record!