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Didn't know about Byrd/Gryce. Again on the BN LP: I guess it is from Paris (Vogue), the bass player and drummer are the same that were on Dizzy's 1953 tour (on Vogue CD "Pleyer Concert 1953"), as was Legge. There's a Dizzy 10" LP with Vogue recordings, too, I believer. ubu

I think the Blue Note release was licensed from Vogue - however I could be wrong, but I think I remember reading this somewher. Legge was on Mingus' "The Clown", and he played with Dizzy (documented on Vogue, too, reissued in the Original Vogue Masters series a few years ago).

Well, the whole thing of "we were just following orders", so that responsibility seems to evade you. It is just the most amazingly banal statement to make about such a horrendous exercise. And yet people make it. And they can't see the incongruity at all. Like somewhere their brain got clogged up with all the evil and all they can utter is banalities and platitudes. It's like banality is a defense against seeing their part in evil. Simon Weil That does make sense, yes. The inconguity you mention, however, is what causes such stark terror when you see the nazi parts of "Shoah" - worst being the man who was second in command of the Warzsaw getto. These things really are beyond grasp. Simon, or anyone, did you read/study Karl Mannheim's and/or Jan Assmann's theories on memory? ubu

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I don't really remember what they say, but some of the images...some of the images are indelible. The guy who sang in the small boat in that wood. The train stopped and the driver getting ready to leave. The crummy concentration camp officer spieling out his lies....Oh, it's all very "the banality of evil". Hadn't occurred to me until now, but that's probably why... Simon Weil I am not so sure about the "banality" - I mean, maybe in the perspective of the single "actors" you can speak of "banality", but as a whole, the Shoah, the destruction of the jews in Europe, was something farthest from "banal". Somehow I find that "bonmot" of the "banality of the evil" offensive (not personally, but still...) On "Shoah": you are right about remembering images. There's the german expression "fahrende Züge" which means "driving trains", but at the same time can be read (and it seems Kafka uses this expression in this sense somewhere in his diary) as - forgive my bad translation - "moving traits of one's face" (the mimic). In that sense, the images of the trains, actually out of direct context with what Lanzmann does otherwise in/with the film, make a lot of sense, as they're somehow an extension of the faces of the imperfect witnesses in front of the camera. ubu

It's a book by William Styron which was made into a film by Alan Pakula. I know the film, which is about a Polish woman trying to make a new life in America after her Holocaust experiences. It is strange and unquiet and I have equivocal feelings about it. But it's worth seeing. Haven't read the book. I'm not sure it'd be your thing though, Ubu. Simon Weil Thanks, Simon. I think I pass on the book (as I have what might turn into an overdose of books ahead right now), and keep my eyes open in case the film will be screened somewhere. By the way, I saw excerpts of "Shoah" again, one week after I saw these parts (from Pt.2, Chapter 1 - the barber-shop scene and the story of Müller who was already in the gas chamber). Now the crazy thing was, I could anticipate almost each word. What these people say sticks to the mind - you don't forget it! A friend told me it was the same thing for him - when he saw the film the second time, he remembered everything. ubu

For some reason this struck a chord in me. So I did a web search and came up with this site. It says: Sounds like the core idea of "Sophie's Choice". Don't feel like reading any further, just at the moment, but I think I will investigate Borowski. So... Thanks, Ubu. Simon Weil Thanks to you, Simon, for that link! Be warned: for me, getting over the first few pages of Borowski was quite tough - things seem so "normal", so "human", at first sight - only to turn out actually double as hard and degrading just becasue of that sudden impression of normality and mankindliness that you get at first... May I ask, what is "Sophie's Choice"? A book? A film? ubu

where does it state that? Oops, I guess I totally misread the review Sorry about that... I'll check my discographies and the tracklists of the various Savoy reissues. Please post the results! Those new Savoy packages are too expensive to just order now and think later (even more so in my buying freeze...) ubu All the tracks on the Savoy Norvo / Farlow / Mingus compilations Move and The Savoy Sessions do appear on The Modern Red Norvo and more. Thanks, Hans. So that's one to get after my buying freeze is over... ubu

Some more thoughts. "La tregua" was maybe made with similar thoughts as "Schindler's List" - bringing the Shoah to the fore again, finding an audience etc. However, it is all the less Hollywood-like. A pretty moving film, and John Turturro (sp?) is very good as Levi (the film's based on Levi's second book, telling the odyssey of his way back home to Torino). Some critique is necessary, though: first, the music is much too dramatic. Second: there are b/w sequences, short sequences all, interspersed, sequences of remembering, moments when Levi thinks back about scenes he lived through during his time as a prisoner. The big plus, however, is that the film is slow, not trying to catch attention with overtly sensationalist images, and generally a very moving and touching account of how these human beings turn again into just that: human beings. Touching it is because much care is given for details (as usual, in Rosi’s films), and the focus often is on small things that are nothing special for us, in daily life, but things the “prisoners” were deprived of. I am reading now “Si questo é un uomo” (in german), Hilberg is on its way, and I also bought the books of Kertesz (“Roman eines Schicksallosen”), Jorge Semprun (his first book, it seems), and Giorgio Agamben’s book about “Auschwitz”. Then I also read two of Tadeusz Borowski’s stories (“Bei uns in Auschwitz” in german, and another one the title of which escapes me). These stories are very strong, too. Borowski was a polish “arian” in the Nazi’s scheme of things, thus did not have to deal with the situation of his destruction (he commited suicide in 1951, though, and his experience in Auschwitz most probably was strongly connected with it). What he shows us is the “microcosmos” that did develop inside the Auschwitz camps (Stammlager Auschwitz I and Birkenau/Auschwitz II, the destruction camp). Also moving moments, and moments of normality in the midst of terror – a normality that has something perverse about it. So much for now, ubu

where does it state that? Oops, I guess I totally misread the review Sorry about that... I'll check my discographies and the tracklists of the various Savoy reissues. Please post the results! Those new Savoy packages are too expensive to just order now and think later (even more so in my buying freeze...) ubu

You know, there's a city called Parma, very good cheese called Parmiggiano, a painter called Parmigianino, and then there's prosciutto di parma... ain't that already more than we deserve? ubu What about Parmalat?? I don't think the City of Parma is still very proud of that corporation... I guess not! ubu

I got used to the fact that Savoy (besides that very cool 8CD Bird box) has a very strange reissue policy... I read somewhere that all the tracks were on this release, but we know our Keepnews... ubu

You know, there's a city called Parma, very good cheese called Parmiggiano, a painter called Parmigianino, and then there's prosciutto di parma... ain't that already more than we deserve? ubu

I think all the Norvo/Farlow/Mingus sides are on this one: (the rest is the Norvo date with Parker, I think) ubu

You know, rainy weather's the best to stay in bed all day... ubu

That page I linked above is pretty nice: http://www.guylj.fsnet.co.uk/JazzGuitarist...vador/index.htm There's more on other guitar players there, too. Adrian, I have not heard "Dynasty". I think it's not OOP yet. Gourley makes a good appearance on Eddie Louiss' Jazz in Paris disc: Kenny Clarke's on this one, too. Don't miss it! ubu

Adrian, Salvador was quite a discovery for me when I picked up that 10"-series CD. I hesitated for a long time, as I did not know him before. Then, a few months ago, I found his "A Tribute To The Greats" on vinyl (courtesy of our good friends Freshsound - originally on Bethlehem). Another very nice recording. It's with Eddie Costa, Frank Dallas and Ronnie Free, tunes: Artistry in Rhythm Taps Miller Prelude to a Kiss Walking Shoes Solos for Guitar Four Brothers In your own sweet way Ruby My Dear Manteca Cool Eyes Yardbird Suite Rec. Summer 57, reissued in Japan 1999: TOCJ-62023 (Japan,1999) (http://www.guylj.fsnet.co.uk/JazzGuitarist...totheGreats.htm) ubu

Maybe I should have saved those left-over dreams funny, but here's that rainy day! Here's that rainy day they told me about and I laughed at the thought that it might turn out this way! Where is that worn-out wish that I threw aside, after it brought my lover near? Funny how love becomes a cold rainy day funny, that rainy day is here! Funny how love becomes a cold rainy day funny . . . that rainy day is here!

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Chiming in late. What about Jimmy Gourley? I have several fifties recordings from France with him playing. Seems he was sort of the Raney-style-ambassador for some very fine players in Europe, back then. The one album I have of him is a very nice one, quartet setting with Barney Wilen, no piano: Among said young french guitar players, René Thomas (belgian, I think, actually) stands out. There are two CDs of his in the recent Jazz in Paris series: And then there's this one with J.R. Monterose, a great album, in my opinion: Another fine guitar player was Sacha Distel. As a bonus release to the Jazz in Paris series, "Jazz guitarist", a very good 2CD set, has been released last year: My favorite Distel, however, is on this album, co-led with John Lewis, and featuring Barney Wilen in top form: (Reissued by Koch, OOP now, as far as I know). ubu

Found "Coral Keys", that Walter Bishop Jr. disc with Harold Vic (what's the deal about this spelling? Did he change it? Is that a strange typo?) and Woody Shaw. Pretty cool album! ubu

Joe, sorry for being late! Nevertheless: H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y ! ! ! Hope you had a cool party with those catesta cuties... ubu

Happy Birthday! ubu

jg - I see this one's still around. I'll go for it, thanks! ubu

Hi Gokhan, and welcome to the funny rat! Thanks for your comment on AALY! I sure dig Haker-Flaten (have two of The Thing's discs on Crazy Wisdom), now Janson does interest me after reading your post! I shall look if that disc is still around. ubu