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As I said, "On Stage" only has Mr. P.C. with Dolphy, all other tracks are quartet only. I *think* that Mr. P.C is the same one from February 9 (10 - see Wild's page for explanation about the date). I have no idea where the other tracks come from, but as that "On Stage" disc is a real cheap one (label is "Accord", by the way), I guess it's nothing that isn't on other discs from that period. The date should be later than early '62, but I'm not sure about that. If someone who's got all that material wants to compare the versions and find out what that "On Stage" disc does included, I could burn it. I'm too lazy to compare, and I have strong feelings that the tracks are included elsewhere (if not on bootlegs, maybe in the 61-63 Trane tree). The "On Stage" disc is not listed on the Wild page (or I can't seem to find it, at least). ubu

I suspect some of the material you mention may be on On Stage 1962 (Unknown label) with Eric Dolphy Which I listed in my initial post. Please correct me if this is not the case. This CD should be available from amazon.co.uk I think I have the version of "Miles Mode" you mention on a compilation live CD I picked up called "John Coltrane - The Legendary Masters - Unissued or Rare - 1962 - 63" however the recording date is listed as the 9th rather than 10th February 1962. Maybe it's from a gig at Birdland the previous night? The other tunes on it are live recordings from Newport and Europe. "On Stage" only has the ten minute "Mr. P.C." from Feb. 10, the other tracks are from a later quartet date (I haven't found out from when exactly, though). ubu

I see you updated your initial post! Get the GRP disc! The '65 one is fine if you're into Shepp, too. (I am) ubu

That's a great bootleg. It came out on one of the Boris Rose label (Ozone). Similar radio broadcasts by the Coltrane quartet appeared on other Boris Rose labels, Alto and Session. Think they were also issued on obscure CD bootlegs! Have that Ozone LP, as well as a Charly CD with the same contents (the Ozone is only the three tracks with Dolphy). Exciting stuff! Also I fully agree about the greatness of the Paris '65 recordings! Btw: the Newport is from '63 and has Haynes subbing for Elvin, and it's a great recording, Phil! I wouldn't want to miss it! ubu

Philly Joe & Mr. P.C.? Mr. P.C. and Wyn Kelly? Mr. P.C. and Jimmy Cobb? Duke and Hodges? Duke and Strayhorn? Coltrane & Dolphy?

Ubu-man, I had exactly the same feeling about Ware's Flight of I - expertly played clever fake! Glad I'm not all alone with that feeling! Somehow, it starts with the production - all too clean. And then the label: Columbia producing free jazz? Hm... the world would necessarily come to an end very soon, my dear friends, if they were serious about it! I wonder, did Ware (or does he? Is he still with them?) sell enough records for them to keep him? ubu

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Is BR-alpha different from BR? If so, I don't get it here... missed it anyway, as I only saw it now. Would love to hear that Jacquet! ubu

Well, droogs, I had a listen to this one: And I have to admit that - while I hear the technical brilliance, and lots of ideas - the whole thing leaves me rather cold. I like Shipp (I don't "love" him, though), and I admire Ms Ibarra, who's a wonderful drummer (and a beautiful woman, too)! Yet this whole thing which I understand is "energetic" and "emotional", still doesn't convince me, and leaves me cold to a point that I could maybe even argue the emotionality being fake... I don't want to say that, but the disc seems to be much too polished, too clean, and not really reaching its goals. Maybe a live recording, done on the spot by someone good at capturing a band's live sound (as opposed to the clean and perfect late nineties studio sound common to many major label releases, lately), would help a lot. Or maybe not... On the other hand, this one's a great disc, I think: Had another listen (only in the background, though), and it does quite convince me. Some beautiful playing by all three, and the two duo tracks with Leo Smith are very good, too! (How about those two tracks, are they part of an album's worth of Smith-Brown duos?) ubu

VERY definitely!

Yes indeed! His JiP releases are great!

Happy Birthday ubu

How about Gunther Schuller? Haven't heard much of his work, but some of the stuff on that strange Lovano third stream disc is GREAT! And he's the man who did Mingus' "Epitaph", too, so he can't be too bad. Also in the liners of the Miles/Gil box, there's a quote about George Avakian proposing two arrangers to do what would turn out to be "Miles Ahead" - Gil Evans or Gunther Schuller. ubu

Looking forward to it! Hey, I found "Ghostly Thoughts" today - a new copy showing a bit of wear, as it was probably lying around where I found it since its release... only 15 CHF (around 10$), which is pretty cool for a Hat disc, no matter if I like it or love it (let's hope I won't hate it...) ubu

Listened to #10 once more, and I really really like it! It's quite mainstreamy-stuff, if you know it a bit better. Solos are built just as one ought to, but then everything is a bit strange, a bit unusual, some notes are not exactly where they belong to... Love it! Got to look for that disc some day! ubu

Leffe (I currently prefer the Radieuse, but all four of them are good! Or: Then there's this one: And this: A good one I have only come to know recently: (Grimbergen) And a last one: Then there's Guiness, of course, and there's some other good Irish ales... but mainly my love goes to Belgian beer, as you may guess by now... ubu

She did some great work for Randy Weston!

there are some great releases on Nessa. Get the Fred Anderson, the Air disc, the AEC box and Roscoe Mitchell's Snurdy McGurdy and her Dancin' Shoes to start. The AEC I've had for at least five years! Love it! Other than that no Nessa so far, but no money to order right now - all the ones you mention are on my list, though, thanks! ubu

Waddya mean? That was humble yours truly... Don't have the Nessa yet, but I will have to order some of Chuck's stuff sooner or later... Check the sample track from the Elixir disc on the Atavistic site, Gary - you shall like that one, too! ubu

Then how about George Russell? Big

Of course Barry Guy! Don Redman (with Fletcher Henderson and with his own band) also George Gruntz ubu

Moby Dick (=rest of the world) of course. Vorwärts immer, rückwärts nimmer! Ein Heeering so fett wie der Geeering (sorry, no relation, but fun it is...)

Grant Green's "Am I Blue". Ike Quebec's great "Bossa Nova Soul Samba" or whatever the correct title of that one is. Both are different, but then you won't find anything that's just like "Midnight Blue". You might also try Green's "Green Street", another very moody affair. Maybe something by Wes Montgomery, too. ubu

Just one to add: Tadd Dameron - he really has a sound all his own!