king ubu

why would anyone need a stoopid question corner?

If it's the same recording I know, it's from a festival that presented the drummer as artist in residence, last year. He's not really the leader, but it was him who picked the band.

Where did you order it? You think you won't need to pay any custom or tax shitte? CD Universe. If you mark it as "gift" the tax is calculated from the lower base. Total tax should not be morwe than 10-15 Sfr. Tell me once you get it, please! It's a bit steep anyway for my current financial situation... Shit I just went ahead and pre-ordered that damn thing! (Did mark the gift box - we'll see how much those dreaded custom folks will want us to pay... and I wonder if they charge us with the same sum!) ubu

Wow, I'm quite ashamed about my totally wrong guess for #10! -_- Now I always prefer that guy by a hair when he's playing with his friend ZS, yet I don't have any of his discs, so far (as opposed to a few ones by ZS). That one shall be put on my buying list! Also on #8: I need to have my ears fixed, it seems, hearing a tenor here... I don't have that disc, but it seems it would be a nice one to have... For at least slightly more successful guesses by the king, please visit the thread for disc 2, thanks -_- . ubu

I see now they've been named already...

ok, after reading all your poor guys' comments on the Herbie trio track: the drummer was the leader, it was recorded at a place where most people speak french, the bassist has something in common with couw...

CD 2 #1 There's a Dollar Brand vibe to that bass line... Johnny Dyani, Cecil McBee? Wow this one's great! Love it! #2 "St. Thomas", by Rollins himself, I guess, recorded live in the late fifties? Terriffic! Thanks for sharing this stuff, Tom! #3 "Straight No Chaser". Pretty good. This one's much about the guitar player, and he's good! I've got the feeling I should know some of the musicians involved on this one... Vibraphone does sound familiar, too, and bass sounds a lot like Steve Swallow, as much, in fact, that I think it IS Steve Swallow playing here... #4 "Bye Bye Blackbird". Very nice alto sound! This might be a bit boring but again I think this could be Lee Konitz? But does get a bit wild at a few points, so I'm not sure. Also the sound is a bit fuller than what I'd expect of Konitz. Another great one, for sure. king ubu loves this disc!!! And how beautifully they "slip" into "Naima"! #5 Don't post anything on this one, got a feeling I have that one as well... gotta check first] #6 Woody Shaw? He's who the sound of this one reminds me of, not just the trumpet, but the whole band. Not really sure, but it could be well be him. Love it! The rhythm section is great, I love the loose playing of the drummer, and the comping of the pianist, and the sound of the anchor-man on bass (McBee?). Jefferson or R. McLean on soprano? Is this the Hayes-Shaw group? Or is Victor Lewis on drums? Should listen much more often to my Shaw CDs! HUGE THANKS Tom for compiling such a great pair of discs! While CD#1 has some very nice things, this CD#2 might be my favourite ever BFT disc so far! Love it, really! ubu

CD 1 #1 Very nice, "My Favorite Things", obviously. No idea who it is, but I do like it! #2 Some good-natured fun. No need for me to guess, as my collection is still rather thin on pre-bop jazz. May be Edmond Hall? Or Sidney Bechet himself? The tune's "High Society". Awesome! I need to dig deeper into this kind of music. #3 Nice transition. Some hardbop now. I think don't know this one, but I have a feeling I should be able to indentify at least some of the musicians. Love the tenor solo. Has that messengers vibe to it. Lee Morgan? [Ten minutes break, ubu searching his BN stuff... not finding anything] Obviously I'd love to know this. Oh, well, after a second listen, things get clearer: that's Mr. T. on tenor, right? Don't think it's on one of the CDs of his I own. Maybe from that nice little black box of his? Love his sound and his lazy phrasing. #4 "Taking A Chance on Love". Starts in a Bill Evans manner, the drummer, and later the piano player too, makes me think of the Jarrett Standards trio sans bass player. Very nice! Love what the drummer does. Also it's great that the pianist - while laying some soft chords with his left hand - omits to play any walking bass lines. #5 Big nice sound, yet so fragile. Very touching performance! I know that tune but can't name it. What an exhausting listen - this one is totally honest. Terriffic! #6 This one's not really down my alley, yet due to slick programming, it doesn't leave me cold after the previous track. #7 "Killing me Softly". Probably easy to find with AMG? The king's too lazy on his stone-age dial-up... All a bit too straight for my likings. Don't really like the sound of the tenor, a bit too clean. #8 Nice sound on the tenor here. Love how it sounds in the lower range! The piano has an almost classical touch. #9 One of those younger guys? Joshua Redman? Don't like that tune too much. The whole performance isn't bad at all, but not very original. I think I'd stick with Redman, as I seem to hear some of his lick in there. Brian Blade on drums? #10 "Them Their Eyes". Fascinating how the sound of the horn opens from the very first, almost bass-clarinet-like tone and timbre to that wide open tenor sound! Love the loose phrasing and the huge sound. Pretty much control needed to play like this. Later day Griffin? One of his duo CDs? I only know the one with Horace Parlan, but don't have it at hand. Could this be Martial Solal? The humor he elicits from the piano... almost like Jaki Byard. #11 Back in time a bit... Hodges-like alto? Nice big-toned (Pops-influenced) trumpet, some swing from the Forties? Should I know this one? Could it be from Hawk's Mercury dates? Have that nice 4CD box, but not with me (aargh!). I think there's a date with some clarinetist on there, right? Would be Roy Eldridge or Joe Thomas on trumpet, then, I suppose. #12 "All the Things You Are". I like the stuttering intro, and what the drummer plays throughout the theme.Some recent Lee Konitz? The man records so many discs of late that I stopped trying to keep track... This sound, no one gets that, except for Lee (except for Nat Su, but as he's already - and to my big surprise - been on Nate's BFT I don't think he's here again, already). But who's the other saxophonist? Ted Brown? Or is it two altos? Would need another listen to this tune. Maybe I'm totally wrong... #13 Basics to end disc 1... Very nice! A short lesson in the history of the tenor saxophone. ubu

http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...6&hl=rod+levitt

Funny I see this thread now! Austrian radio has broadcasted some 30 to 35 minutes from this one (at least I suppose this is the source). Can you give the discographical info, please? Musicians, and tunes, mainy, as I wonder how much of it I have heard. Somehow, Coleman doing "Goody Goody" as well as the whole setting (trumpet with rhythm, a bit of vocals...) reminded me of Jonah Jones. ubu

same for the trueblue site, by the way

Anyone has the discography for that Mosaic ready? That was the one that went OOP when I got my first or second catalogue. I missed that and the Armstrong set that went OOP around the same time, too. No www back then... ubu

Another plus of the box is the very good commentary by Zan Stewart (didn't he win some award for them?). He also keeps track of all non-Prestige recordings that took place during those one and a half years, and he goes further back, Dolphy's days with Chico etc. A stylish writer. ubu

thanks!

I stumbled over that site some time ago (obviously...), but didn't save the link, thanks! ubu

Love the box! No problem with sound, but then I'm no audiophile. Terrific playing by not only Dolphy but Booker Little, Byard, Oliver Nelson, Roy Haynes, Mal Waldron etc etc. The second of the two Nelson albums is just as good as what is considered his classic, "Blues and the Abstract Truth", if not better. ubu

Probably yes, but that was some Granz/JATP package, so it's not sure, I'd say. This is from Losin, the comment to the Zurich date: The Freiburg date has one track featuring Miles with Prez, it's on the 16CD set. However, it's sad and strange that only so very little material from these concerts did turn up. Remind me to write a mail to the swiss radio folks who might know more about what is still around from the 11-19 date (and maybe the 11-20 and 11-21 dates as well). ubu

I knew I had read about it somewhere, I just didn't realize I had read about it right here. Time to head over to cdbaby. I hope no one is offended if I add maldoror is da shit! An awesome disc, really! I think you should love it, John! And yes, I got it from CDBaby as well. ubu

Dude, standing on the stand right next to him while he plays is as closely as you CAN listen to him! Talk about a blessing, anybody who had that opportunity got one. Well, the point of above statement of mine was that I didn't know Miles transposed Pres licks to his trumpet. It is whole new dimension to listen to Miles from. You do have that one track they recorded together in Europe, in 1956? Pretty sad, as far as Lester's concerned...

I heard this band live last year. Boring pretentious bullshit. Bruno Chevillon definitely should record a solo record (actually, that's what I told him after that concert - and he said that solo bass is kinda boring for listeners, I gently argued that the shit he had been playing that night was kinda boring for listeners, but he didn't seem persuaded). Another guy who absolutely should record solo is Jean-Jacques Avenel. Dolphy criticue is coming, don't worry . Will give the Ducret band a chance, I usually like himself quite a bit (also in Humair's crew, with Chevillon in, too). Avenel, yes! Have a burn of one trio disc of Lacy's (The Window, Soul Note) and he's fantastic there, as in the larger Lacy groups. I hope you at least have the VV master takes CD - "Chasin' the Trane", in trio is a stunning performance - one of the best takes Trane ever committed to record!

Thanks, John! So I guess it really is all in the box. ubu

"Living Space" is in the Coltrane Impulse! Quartet box. It's post - "Love Supreme", but before "Meditations". I don't have the Village Vanguard box, so my only exposure to these perfomances is from the "Impressions" album ("India" and "Impressions") and I thought Coltrane's playing was pretty limited on those. Given this experience and my ambiguos attitude towards Dolphy at the moment, I'm not too interreested in exploring any further right now. Oh yes, I remember your strange Dolphy remarks... anything to post here? I'm ready ... Enjoyed your solo bass post - the Phillips has been on the "list" already, and it will stay right there. Don't know any of the albums you list, but I have one of Weber's ECM solo discs. Got it cheap and used, listened once, wasn't all too impressed, and put it on some "to listen to again some day"-pile (have many of those piles all over my place and my girlfriend's as well...) It's not a usual solo disc, as Weber works with overdubbing etc, creating soundscapes of bass. The last sentence in Weber's self-written liner reads: "The bass as orchestra - if that isn't a challenge."... Got his "Colours of Chloë" as well, that day, and was even less impressed with that. Will revisit those in time. Listened to two hours of live stuff recorded off Bayerischer Rundfunk last night, from Jazzwoche Burghausen 2004 (early in May): Sam Rivers' trio (with Matthews & Coles), Zorn Electric Masada (Ribot, Saft, Dunn, Wollesen, Baron, Baptista, Mori), and E.S.T. Still same opinion on Svenson, and not too fond of the Rivers (four rather short tracks), but the Zorn was pretty good. Now waiting for an hour of Marc Ducret, coming 12pm on France Musiques, a recording from September 11 this year, with his quintet: Alain Vankenhove (tp), Christophe Monniot (sax), Bruno Chevillon (b [not he'd be a candidate for a solo record!]), and Éric Échampards (d). ubu

Hey what's on that "Living Space" thing? Anything not available elsewhere? Can someone type out all the info for me, please? There are a few Coltrane discs I never heard (Olatunji, Expression, Vanguard Again), and it's similar for me as with John: there is a need to step back, every time I've listened to any of his music. It's just so intense. David, do you have the 1961 Village Vanguard 4CD set? I hope so, because if not, you have to get it immediately - some of the best music I've ever heard! ubu

wait, make that 1072

Here's the VSOP catalogue: http://home.earthlink.net/~magnebit/ Of the four you list I have the Candoli and the Paich. The Paich is for those who like laid back and very easy west coast piano (I like it). The Candoli is quite good. ubu