king ubu

So if it wasn't any dance band it still was a dance band?

Fight she can as well: ubu B-)

And let me add I never heard her singing, nor her name... B-)

You might have just as well added a ... Seems she at least tries to fool us and act as if she can play that trumpet... source. Also she can act as if she looks good: http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2002-01-1...c_feature3.html ubu

I think it could be any dance band from the time, possibly with a "famous" clarinet soloist sitting in. Südfunk Tanzorchester dir. Erwin Lehn? now the only one we miss is the clarinet soloist... Simon is a name for #3, by the way. Not strong on it, just thought I'd throw in his name. ubu

Maurice Simon?

At least I did recognize McShann (AND guess the tune right), as well as the Navarro/Clarke track (though I forgot KD was there as well). No idea about #4 but after reading the comments made by others, I'm sure I'm completely off track. Now about that S.F. Fantasy disc, I had a listen to it in a store when it was new, but forgot to note it so I'd be able to remember buying it later. A very nice compilation/reissue!

John, I like that disc quite a lot although the band does have problems... "Summertime" is awesome, one of my favourite versions of that tune. Moves me almost to tears each time I hear it!

Tony was referring to Assif Tsahar's Open Systems; Kowald was one of the band members. Yup, sorry. My reply was a bit fast, had lots of reading to do here as I wasn't online since Saturday morning. ubu

Not sure, and I personally don't care as I go for CD usually, but I do think that the Mingus CBS has edited versions of tracks taht were restored for the recent Sony/Legacy 3CD reissue of that material. That one goes cheap, though, so you might as well get the LP Mosaic and the CD version from Sony, you'd ahve it all then, the tracks/albums as originally released, and the restored versions on CD. My only Mosaic LP sets are the Brooks (great), the Pepper (not too essential, but nice), and the Buck Clayton (love it, but hardly spin it). ubu

This one never fails to astonish! The other one that popped up was "East Coasting", maybe the most haunting, lyrical album Mingus ever did. That band may be my favourite Mingus band ever, Dolphy and Booker notwithstanding. ubu

get it this way: http://www.buyrunt.com/water.html a great reissue of some great music! ubu

I heard Shaw live with the Mingus BB last year, he was very good indeed!

belated best wishes... happy birthday! ubu

Happy birthday, Chris! ubu

Well, finally had some time to listen to disc 2: #1 - Great opener! Have the feeling I should know it... Love the way the drummer drives that band! In such a light way. Nice tenor. #2 - Piano sounds familiar. Anotehr very nice score. Love the bari-heavy ensembles on both tracks! Could this be Bobby Timmons? (Only have some of his trio recordings.) Wynton Kelly? #3 - Kansas City swing thing? Freddie-Green-like guitar. Who could this be? No idea. Sounds a bit like Illinois on barisax. Leo Parker? Too lazy to check what tune this is, but I think I have that somewhere in a different version. #4 - Similar, yet a bit more, what, "modern"? Nice sweet clarinet, fat Satchmo-styled trumpet, I suppose I ought to recognize several of these musicians. A Teddy Wilson side with Billie sitting out? Guess not... #5 - Sounds familiar, but after a repeated listen, I can't tell. Like the singer alright (checked the few Helen Humes sides I have, not there, ain't sure it's her). Alto sounds a bit like Hodges (could as well be Willie Smith - if Bud Shank can hear similarity, I might as well mix them up...). Then tehre's that nice, slightly-distorted and too-loud-in-the-"mix" guitar (probably having his amplifier a bit too close to the microphone...). Like it! #6 - Lunceford? Hell, I know this! Jay McShann! Yup, that one I have on some CD, but don't have that with me. Here's that alto solo! Now is this Bird, or is taht the tune the liner notes writer of the Decca CD is not sure who it is? "Swingmatism"? Love this one! Great music! #7 - Forties afro cuban bop? Sounds very familiar. The trombone's a bit rough, the alto a bit sweet... like the percussion solo! (What is this, timbales?) #8 - That's the Kenny Clarke tune turned into "Tenor Madness". Is this the early version with Fats Navarro? Hey, there's a second trumpet? Nice! Hawk on tenor? #9 - Don't know this one. Like it, though. The tune sounds familiar, but I can't name it. Very nice one! #10 - Oscar Pettiford, I assume? Then who's playing the second cello? Or is this overdubbed? Or pre-overdub era? No idea, to be honest. #11 - A nice one! Big sound! Not very early Rollins? Sound a bit like Lateef... don't know. #12 - Finally some doorbells... pre-Bags? No idea. Like the piano. #13 - Now here's some smooth Charlie Christian styled guitar, not the rough r'n'b sound from #5. Is this a Tal Farlow side? Will ahve to get that Mosaic, but not now... #14 - Is this "I'll remember April"? I always mix up the titles of standards. Nice one, but no idea. Lie the samba (?) beat a lot here! #15 - Another nice one. Like the sparse setting with piano out during the guitar solo. Also very nice soft drumming. Great! #16 - Not sure about this one. Second go. Is this a retro thing, or two old guys doing what they did way back in the days when they were young? Not too fond of this screaming tenor... #17 - Strange, I'm not very fond of this, yet I played it three times before continuing with... #18 - ... which also is not my favourite track of the CD. Nice swinging here, though. #19 - More of the screaming stuff. Nice one this time. Not Jacquet? #20 - Nice sequencing. Not the music I listen to, but I like it alright. #21 - Latin doorbells. Maybe a bit too nice, but still I ought to get more of this kind of music. #22 - This one's nice! The trombone is great, has a haunting sound. So has the tenor. West coast? Walter Benton? #23 - Some more vocalese to end. Not Hendricks this time, I suppose. Nice one, groovy! Another good drummer here! A strong ending, two good tracks after a couple ones I wasn't too fond of. ********* Mike, many many thanks for compiling these enjoable discs! ubu

Chaney, I don't have that Kowald disc, so it would be difficult to be fond of it... still very thin on Kowald. When you order that Siemens thing, you certainly get a discount buying two of them and sending one to my address, ok? Could use it... no ironing time this weekend, and not next month, either. David, that Lake concert sounds like a great one, except for Allmond, whom I don't know anyway. Also as I missed both his and Tchicai's concerts in Zurich, I'd love to hear their recording!

no friends, no pic this time, you couldn't appreciate it anyway...

This is real sad news to start the weekend

Please provide a link once that thread is there, for the non-JC-posters among us! JC Ask Anthony Braxton thread thanks, Hans!

Thanks, but that's a bit too steep I think! Will try the cheapo shop here first ("Mediamarkt"). ubu

I've been hearing good things about this disc for a while. I'll have to grab a copy soon. in other news, according to Lois, the admin over at JC, Anthony Braxton has agreed to sign up and start an "Ask Anthony Braxton" thread. Should be interesting, to say the least... Please provide a link once that thread is there, for the non-JC-posters among us! D.D.: taht disc sounds good! The buying-function on the label's site isn't working though (at the moment only?). Which again is a good thing as it keeps me from spending even more money... ubu

Hate to quote myself but I already identified the Sidewinder track a long time ago. no one implied you didn't Indeed not. I was just talking of my own post, nothing else. I don't look at this as a contest, anyway, sure it's fun, but if it ought to be a contest, there would have to be conditions etc... and we wouldn't want that, would we?

I listened to Disc 1 also. Lateef didn't come to mind when I heard this session, but now that you mention it, there may be some similarities in their style at that point in time. I immediately thought of Sonny Rollins. I'll have to listen again. Rollins, yes - there's a quote somewhere at the beginning (I fell asleep shortly after reading the first pages) of Val Wilmer's essai about Ayler and his huge sound - so Rollins must be there, too. But Wilmer writes something like Ayler being sort of bigger, soundwise, and Rollins (and others, don't recall the names) being in awe of Ayler's sound. ubu