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All these Taylors are classics, though! (I haven't heard the MPS, but have and like/love/appreciate all the others to some degree). I don't think the Enja is second rate compared to the others, drummer Mark Edwards brought in some new stylings after Ronald Shannon Jackson, and the absence of bass (though not an all too rare feat for Taylor groups) makes for another change in sound. The CD restores the full 60+ minutes of that concert, from which the LP was taken. ubu I should have said - I like those sessions! I was just recalling that reviewers were iffy about them at the time and they weren't a massive career boost for Malik. I know about those reviews.

All these Taylors are classics, though! (I haven't heard the MPS, but have and like/love/appreciate all the others to some degree). I don't think the Enja is second rate compared to the others, drummer Mark Edwards brought in some new stylings after Ronald Shannon Jackson, and the absence of bass (though not an all too rare feat for Taylor groups) makes for another change in sound. The CD restores the full 60+ minutes of that concert, from which the LP was taken. ubu

On that session I found him quite alright. I'm thinking more of the New World Taylors. Though I need to spin those again soon.

I hardly know him outside Taylor's Unit, and there, I often find him to be a bit overpowering. However, generally, I like the few things I know of his. ubu

that's what happened here, too, when I read the thread's title... RIP.

Ironically, this drummer - who recorded with Sonny's Stitt and Rollins - was criticized even by Michael Cuscuna of not being up to par with the rest of the band. Strangely this is one of the Griffin's I never really warmed up with - even after several attempts. I guess I understand why one could be of that opinion, but somehow this LP really clicked with me, when I heard it the first time. Griffin's solo is terrific!

I try to catch it each time it's in some theater over here! Love that film!

I've got to admit, I really like Regeneration. To each his own. Wow! I really love that disc!

If you do, please send me a copy of each of them, ok? Now seriously: why always expect the worst?

agreed!!! Footprintslive is one of the freshest and most daring discs I heard of late. Wayne at his age sure sounds younger than a whole bunch of them so-called "young lions".

This happened to me when I got Johnny Griffin's "The Congregation" (beautiful Conn LP edition). The opening cut is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooofreakin'gooooooooooooooooooood! I listened to it endlessly. Made a copy to MD of it as well, and listened to it till I could sing Griff's solo. Clarke then, is great, too. And that drummer, unknown to me otherwise) lays a real good groove!

Please do! Hey, you don't like Doran! Btw: if anyone wants to join me (David will, hopefully!?): next Sunday 8 p.m. Tim Berne in Zurich (with that small group with Craig Taborn - Roscoe M. said "Watch out for Craig Taborn", it seems, just before his set started on Saturday). Feel free to call me up and ask for details ubu

Friends, I'm too tired right now to catch up with all your posts and links, but Chaney: thanks a lot for your very kind offer! I will give it a thought (I mean, if I should at all order). I just spent a nice hour with Christy Doran and Freddy Studer, talking to them about their Jimi Hendrix project (about which I posted here, I believe, and in the Live Jazz forum). They gave us a raw-mix of tracks that will (partially, it seems) end up on their upcoming live disc. We'll do a radio show with this interview and portions from the live disc later in December. I can post a link if anyone's interested, once it's up online. ubu

I mentioned him in the other trombonist thread. He's very good, indeed! (He is younger than 50, so this is the place!) ubu

Think I read his say somewhere that it's a Turkish name, thus the "unexpected" pronunciation. Armenian it is, I believe. Of course that could mean his family originates in what is Turkish territory (the genocide committed by the Turks to [?] the Armenian people was the first of many to follow in this century -- end of miniature history lesson).

Again thanks and

Thanks for your recommendations. I'm not sure I want to spend any more money, though this is a tempting offer... I've heard some concert stuff by both Noetinger and ErikM, so I would tend to go for that one. And then, didn't the Muller/Yoshihide get a lukewarm review in the Wire, some months ago? Let me add one recommendation: "Mental Cruelty" by George Gruntz (featuring, among others, Kenny Clarke and Barney Wilen) is a terrific European hard bop recording of that era (I think it's from 1961). Joe McPhee's "Trinity" is the second among the offered items that I have, and it's recommended as well! ubu

(and thanks for introducing me to Letov!)

to both!

By the way: people over here often tend to dislike intellectualism in European jazz, as well. A case in point: a fantastic Tomasz Stanko quartet concert I heard somewhen last year (or was it this spring), the audience was really startled, a fantastic band that does not "swing" or play "the blues" in the US/hardbop/traditional way, but have their own conception of time, of melody, of mood (and believe me, in a live setting they don't sound ECMish, not the least bit). Yet the next day all the newspaper chaps knew to write about was how cold and intellectual their music was... I reckoned if they heard a different concert, or if they were biased knowing the CD, or just simply too lazy to listen and/or give a damn.

Clem I completely get your point. I am not sure if it really does look that different over here. I think that our distance to many of these issues is too big for us to really be able to judge it. However, if we are interested in local/national/general european jazz/music/call-it-what-you-want, I suppose we automatically have a wide open focus of things, of musicians, of styles, we take in account. Of course there are the local hardbop-only freaks here, too, those who didn't notice that Brötzlmeister and his compagnons ARE the mainstream today... What I try to say is that - let's stay with trombone players - if you're following the careers of people such as Mangelsdorff, the Bauers, Rutherford, Schiaffini, or Wogram (who are very diverse players), you almost necessarily have to stay open-minded and -eared, and that then is part of our way of looking at US jazz/music as well (of course we all look at the US, there's no denying that - that's where the music we love comes from). ubu

A lot of good stuff here. I would highly recommend (insist, basically) Michel Lambert's "Out Twice" (mp3s and reviews here) -it's on page 3 of the bargains list. Thanks for posting this! They have some fantastic discs on sale. Too bad I already own a lot of the ones I would want to pick up. Has enyone here heard Kent Kessler's solo disc and have a recommendation pro or con? I did a search for it (typing the title in the search field and displaying results as posts) - you'll find a lukewarm review of Nate Dorward's. Any recommendations? I have the McPhee, and I might be interested in the Hal Russell and Bobby Few, but most of these artists are more or less unknown to me. ubu LAMBERT! LAMBERT! LAMBERT!!!!!! Flurin, keep in mind that Drimala does not help with customs arrangements, so you are likely to pay taxes if the order (including shipping) is more than Sfr. 50. I saw your Lambert recommendation, was too fast typing before to include it. And yes, I noted that they don't offer any nice way of handling our custom problem... I guess I'd order 4 discs maximum anyway, maybe 6. 8 would already be past the 50 Franks limit, I'm afraid.

A lot of good stuff here. I would highly recommend (insist, basically) Michel Lambert's "Out Twice" (mp3s and reviews here) -it's on page 3 of the bargains list. Thanks for posting this! They have some fantastic discs on sale. Too bad I already own a lot of the ones I would want to pick up. Has enyone here heard Kent Kessler's solo disc and have a recommendation pro or con? I did a search for it (typing the title in the search field and displaying results as posts) - you'll find a lukewarm review of Nate Dorward's. Any recommendations? I have the McPhee, and I might be interested in the Hal Russell and Bobby Few, but most of these artists are more or less unknown to me. ubu

Well well well... of course you're right Clem, but then why be so harsh about it! The two Bauers (whom I both saw last Friday with the great group "Doppelmoppel") certainly belong in any such list (which had to be endless if it would be fair). Albert Mangelsdorff is another exceptional german bone player. Then there's some nice Italian guys as well, mainly Giancarlo Schiaffini and Sebi Tramontana come to mind. There are other, more mainstream oriented players, too, such as Gianluca Petrella (who can be heard with Enrico Rava's "Easy Living" band). Thinking of swiss trombone players, the first who comes to mind is Christophe Schweizer. He has live in NYC for some time (but is back in Switzerland now, as I understand), and led several of his own bands, one of them with Billy Hart on drums. Nils Wogram is yet another incredible German trombone player, who settled in Zurich. He can be heard, for instance, with Swiss drummer Lucas Niggli's group (several CDs on Intakt). ubu

Priester is still around, yes? (Hopefully, otehrwise I'd have missed something...) So is Moncur, I believe. Priester is one of my favourites, by the way. I can't choose any from this list. J.J. was a giant, but I love Rosolino, I love the bit of Teagarden I know, I love Dickie Wells, Vic Dickenson, and of course the Duke's men, Britt Woodman, Lawrence Brown, hey, even Tricky Sam! ubu