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This isn't them, of course, but exploring this clue led me to this disc I just have to get... http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&t...mi8m968ojep1~T1 While I've been know to be wrong before (and often ), I'm still sticking to my original guess that this trio is Ginger Baker, Charlie Haden, and Bill Frizzell .... That disc sounds great, indeed! And I'm a big Dylan fan, too... On Frisell: no, sorry! I guess I would have hinted some or posted some if it was him... those guys are way too obscure for anyone to i/d them, I think. I quite like them, though!

Are his initials W.D.? No! And it's not the keyboard, btw! Who did you mean with W.D.?

Thanks a lot, Mike! So I have to apologize to the poster who identified this as "tabla" in case he did mean one of the pictured instruments, and not the indian instrument, which looks like this: On the electric piano: one of the guys involved was sort of an electronics pioneer in Europe, and had several distribution deals, so... (he tells some stories on his website about how he, being the first to buy those instruments from the US manufacterers, was always asked to take up distribution deals, too). Now I myself am no expert in identifying electric pianos (though I do like those vintage ones a lot), so your ears may just be right, anyway!

Uh... I'm wearing sackcloth now and spreaded some ashes on my head... I did only see your post after I saw Cary's, sorry! Now I indeed suddenly wonder about the JazzBaltica/Salzau one - can someone who's got the tree already tell me: is this sounding like FM? ubu

The Salzau comes from FM, or TV, I assume. Sound quality on the version I have is prime. 3sat was the tv channel that did the broadcast, on radio I got it via Deutschlandfunk - though I'm not sure they recorded it themselves or just got it from the tv station or from another radio station (NDR?). This just for the geeks among us who care for such stuff. I assume that John Carr has recorded it off the air or off tv and offered a copy of it to the Miles Trees guys? (Or did he do an audience recording???)

Thanks for posting this, Cary! Not sure my seed would have the info (he didn't send me anything, but the package with the music should arrive any day now). To nit-pick a bit: the venue in Paris is called Théâtre du Châtelet (not Chatelat), as far as I know. The only one of these concerts I've heard is the JazzBaltica one, and I can tell you that one smokes!!! I also have that one VHS, as it was broadcasted on TV, as well.

More great comments, Mike! Not a varitone (I know - will post about it in the anwers), but something that ends up producing similar sounds on #11. Also I thought that electric piano was a Wurlitzer, will have to check back if I find something... did so: DUH! The guy is listed as playing piano!!! Oh well... Thanks for identifying the Darbuka (that is arabian, yes? So my remark further up is not completely wrong...)! #15 is a completely different band than #16 (different circles of guys involved, alltogether). I do understand your remarks on the weakness of the solos on #16. I saw the band live, have the concert recording I took this cut from, and have the studio album, too. The live concert was stunning, a wall of sound, and tons of wierdo grooves that really wanted to make you dance (which is usually the last thing I want to do...), but you would have to be Thelonious to know just HOW to dance to those tunes... There is very little space and room to breath in this music, though, which started troubling me a bit after 45 minutes or so (lucky enough they just played on set, thus in the end it was still a great night). Now that band/guy (for it's one guy who leads it) is all about writing and pulling very difficult and tricky stuff in a way that makes it sound oh so easy. Also the rhythm section is extremely tight - I'm particularly fond of the bassist. The band on #17 also played, well let me see... "I Pity the Poor Immigrant"?

Hey, he didn't mean you... ever heard of a thing called pluralist majestatis? Now cringe! king ubu

I had never seen that site before. Thanks for posting the link! That site's great! I thought you all knew that anyway, otherwise I could have mentioned it long ago...

Sure, I have the Vortex, but not exactly in a form to be proud of, speaking in terms of supporting the artists... (thanks, love it!) The Chicago duets, yes, I've had that one in my hands a few times in stores, but never decided to pick it up so far. You'll be getting some, some day, I haven't forgotten! (The BFT meant/means - till I have all the answers ready - quite a lot of work!) ubu

Some very nice comments, indigo! Thanks! Also thanks to Mike and RDK! I immensely enjoy this thread (usually I'm not allowed to read it and till I am allowed - after having posted my guesses - the party's almost over... now this time it's MY party for a change, and I do enjoy it ) That "Mop Mop" is indeed goofy! It closed a gap in the "theme" of this disc (no real theme on discs 2, btw), that being the main reason it's here. I have listened to the discs all day yesterday (starting to type up answers and collecting links, photos etc for the anwers threads) and this track indeed is somewhat funny. The Ornette cover is much better, but has a similar off-the-mark-ness to it, I think (Mike is onto something, in that respect). ubu

That tore me up! Glad I had my mouth NOT full of coffee when I saw that pic!

I see you made up your mind already, just wanted to tell you it sucks... what sucks is that no one has so far mentioned the great Willie Smith sides! A fantastic set, Marcus! Get it! ubu

No, but Texier was in the studio of France Musiques (radio station) for a recent "Mardi Idéal" broadcast, and he talked some about it. Seems the music again is pretty independent (and thus should work on CD as well as the trio disc "Remparts..." you mentioned above).

So please give your wife my best regards and tell her I most certainly admire her musical taste! B-) Looking forward to hearing what you think of the music, John!

Hey, Clunky: that Occhipinti, is that the "Kaos Legend" disc on Leo? It's OOP, if you see another copy, tell D.D., he's looking for it! I recently found it, too, and I like it quite a lot! ubu

Don't bother with all of the links. It's really not worth your time. I really enjoy 2 X 3 = 5. I don't have much Parker in my collection. Off the top of my head Monoceros and The Snake Decides (both excellent solo discs) and Dark Rags, with Keith Rowe are all I own. I'm looking forward to exploring more of his work. I still need to get some Derek Bailey. I still have never heard anything by him, as far as I know. Thanks, and thanks for stepping in with the "cut-the-crap"-message, too (I only saw that one after my last post, you posted while I was typing my own message). That Parker-Schlipp-Lytton is quite intense, Lytton is beating up his traps quite some! And Parker on tenor is, as far as I can tell, much cliché-freer than on soprano (with the circular-breathing thing he's got going on). Will try and check out the Leo soon! Also I guess I ought to get his Birthday Leo 2CD set, yes?

What is that? Bagatellen "discussion" (uh, that's the wrong word if no one's "communicating") eding up in the "rat"? Haven't had time to follow all those links, sorry! Now spinning some Schlippenbach in trio with Evan Parker and Lytton. Good stuff! I do like that Parker man quite some (even though besides the Birds/Blades set and the as-of-yet unheard "2 x 3 = 5" Leo disc I have no official releases of his so far).

Glad you agree. Now I can't wait to find out who's the player and possible tune thief on your track 10. Checked the Taylor "E.B." out again, back-to-back with #10 on my BFT disc - two great ones! The similarity is indeed too striking to believe that happened by accident... Though there isn't much of a real "composition" here, but rather one motive and then a few rhythmic figures. Btw: the drummer on my disc has much more nuance, but then... I can't say too much now! And RDK: your last post had me all last night! I wonder, has no one got any retro-objections against some strangeties on the bogaloo track? Then: the percussion instrument on #12 is definitely not a tabla - Mike, can you help? Sounds like some arabian frame drums to me, but I'm not at all an expert (tablas I own myself, though...). ubu

Happy birthday!

Sorry to hear this! Sad news r.i.p.

Oh my, oh my... if it hasn't been common knowledge by now that Bean ripped off Brötzlmeistr big time... Hey you moldy fig! Didn't you know that Brötzelmeister has been accepted as an old-fashioned mainstream jazz musician thirty years ago? Even this Hawkins guy stole a lot of Brötzmann tricks! Don't go all girlie about this now, pu-lleaze!

Thanks, indeed! Got to take the Atlantic box out of the shelf again soon! ubu

Now that "add reply" button got ugly right now... I guess b3-er is pulling some tricks with the board software... On the Golson track: not only the tune, but the pianist, too, makes another appearance on my discs. As this is one of the easiest to identify, I guess you got to check that piano player out, now

That Golson thing is one of my dearest treasures... I think his sound here is fantastic, so are his and the pianists solos!