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Gave a first listen to this little puppy: And it is fantastic! It's a duo recording of Slava Guyvoronsky (trumpet) and Evelin Petrova (accordion and voice). He seems to be a seasoned master musician/teacher/mentor/composer/whatever, while she is a young pupil of his. The music is all his, the direction seems to be given by him, exclusively, but she performs very well, too. The music meanders between folksy (Russian, the liners say) and free, composed (audibly so) and improvised... really a beautiful set of performances! Thanks to our cyrillic poster for making me pick it up! Highly recommended for all those of you that are interested in European (I know, this is Russian, but still...) folksy/jazz/impro stuff. And of course for accordion geeks such as my humble self.

That is news to me, too. Thanks Mike!

I bet that's body language, Sir!

Are you sure about that? I'm aware that these Birdlanders discs come from "Vogue in NYC" sessions, so to speak, but where are the tracks with Jay & Kai to be found? I only have vol. 1 (picked it up in a sale, never looked for vol. 2 so far). Also, can you list all the new Vogue Masters releases? I have no idea how to find out about *all* the new ones, and I'd love to know! The sides with Kai Winding and Henri Renaud were on the Oscar Pettiford Sextet album that also was reissued by Vogue. That 1954 session was produced by Leonard Feather and engineered by Jerry Newman. http://homepages.tesco.net/~guylj/TalFarlo...ifordSextet.htm The Period/Prestige reissues were a mess! The Vogue CDs are the way to go. The Pettiford Sextet Vogue CD includes two previously unissued takes. I have that Pettiford! Didn't realize it was the same stuff!

Only temporarily, it seems, and not because they've been hit or something! One of the moderators stated on the mailing list that they have "DB problems", whatever that means, and are dealing with them.

Thanks Berigan! I guess you're well-trained on being in the minority from the politics section I don't really dislike Ventura, it's just that I don't find him to be the most compelling musician (while contrary, Bill Harris is a musician I can return to and find more and more enjoyable and more and more rich in nuances at each go I have).

I don't know much about Freshsound vinyl, the only one I have is Sal Salvador's Bethlehem "Salute to the Greats" (sounds good to my ears, too). With CDs, they don't do such a great job, and I assume if one wants to get this Renaud date in as legit a way as possible, today the JiP disc should be the way to go. Of course in the eighties that disc wasn't around... B-)

Thanks David for all these infos! I'll yet have to try out indiejazz, but I would have asked you for advice anyway, so thanks! The Howard date is probably similar to the released CDR - the person who offered it on that bit-torrent-site I got it from said so, at least. I'll scrap the Lacy off the list and continue looking for the Eskelin, in that case!

Blue Star 6831? That one is also on the Jazz in Paris disc "Zoot Sims et Henri Renaud". That is a very nice disc, with 4 lenghty Sims cuts (with Eardley, Renaud, de Hass [shouldn't that be de Haas?] and Saudrais) plus the Renaud 10 inch album.

Why should I have? Children *are* evil, you know? No weird and twisted morals, just get what you can and what you want... (I hope I changed a bit in that respect, over the last 10-15 years, though...)

And that Boxholder disc sounds like it's down my alley! Thanks for mentioning it, I'll have to look for it! Weird how some of those hardbop drummers end up in such contexts, now and then (Philly Joe and Art Taylor come to mind).

Flurin, you are referring to the Live at the Village Vanguard released lat year by Phantom Limb, I guess. This is definitely not a good representation of either Lowe's or Howard's talents, and is indeed a pretty standard spiritual fire-music blow out. I think at their best neither Lowe, nor Howard can be accused of not listening and interacting with their musical partners. Howard, IMO, has a very uneven discography. The one I like the most is Red Star (Boxholder, 2001) - a recording from 1977 with Bobby Few on piano, Guy Pedersen on bass, Richard Williams on trumpet and Kenny Clarke (!) on drums. This is actually a very musch "in" date with Williams providing some smoking pyrotechnical solos (what a longpower, I tell ya!), Clarke laying some real groove and Howard doing all this lyrical, soulful and "spiritual" stuff that he is good at (Howard has sxome of my favorite alto sound out there). I feel that with years, this "spiritual" side got out of proportion a bit, and while Howard retained the sound and technique, his music sounds very mannered and non-creative after a while (I am referring to Howard's disc on Ayler, and some other staff on is own label I've heard). I think that Howard is from a different date. It also includes a French horn (otherwise the same band). It has a hum that is pretty disturbing (and would be too bad for an official release, in my opinion, even for a cheap CDR). This disc that I have has two lenghty tracks (27:28 and 19:30). Could you compare with the official CDR, please, and tell me if they are identical?

Urdu, Mandarin or Telugu are my preferred languages... glad I have no kids (at least so far)! I remember it took my parents a while to realize that me and my sister did start understanding their english conversations (hey, it was them who sent us to English courses at age 10 or 12, so...)

To add something new, too... Got this disc used yesterday and spinned it immediately: Love it! It has that similar group feel that "Normalology" also has (see an earlier post of mine in this thread). Francis much-maligned Davis who did the liners stresses the collective character of much of the music, and goes on saying that this "music is post-free, not pre-bop". This is quite true (and not that trivial, I think). Sidemen are Steve Swell (tb), Bob DeBellis (ss,ts,bari,bcl), Bob Henke & Ron Horton (tp), Kevin Norton (d,vib), David Hofstra (b), and Joe Ruddick (p,keys,as). The disc came out in 1996 on Black Saint (D.D.: I'm slowly getting a few Black Saint and Soul Note discs together... probably not the most essential ones, but still...) Spinning now: a live recording of the Hal Russell Story (and loving it all as much as I have loved all Hal I heard so far). Oh, and one more thing regarding the above Bagatellen-discussion: I just listened to a 72 live recording of Noah Howard's, featuring Frank Lowe - you may have noted the point someone over on Bagatellen makes regarding players who listen and players who don't - I'm not sure how good that point is, or rather, how good his division between Brown/Howard/... (listening) vs. Wright/Lowe/... (non-listening) is. I mean, the problem with many of those really noisy sax players (and yes, it may indeed be an alto vs. tenor thing, too, as there simply are not as many alto players that can and want to play as loud as those screaming free tenors can - it has got to do with the instrument, too, on a purely technical basis) - ok, starting again: the problem with many of those really noisy sax players (mainly tenors) is that I think it's more difficult to really judge on how they interact, how they listen to the others, since they're taking so much space with their own playing - that does not necessarily mean they're not listening, I'd say. What I want to say, in short, is just that mellower and less noisier players are not necessarily listening more and better at all.

From our mails yesterday (chronologically ordered) ********************* ubu: D.D.: ubu: John B: D.D. John B: Hope it's alright to post this all in one go!

Are you sure about that? I'm aware that these Birdlanders discs come from "Vogue in NYC" sessions, so to speak, but where are the tracks with Jay & Kai to be found? I only have vol. 1 (picked it up in a sale, never looked for vol. 2 so far). Also, can you list all the new Vogue Masters releases? I have no idea how to find out about *all* the new ones, and I'd love to know!

very sad news

Happy Birthday, Rodney!

Wasn't Renaud more a catalyst than a great pianist, actually? I mean, having all those JiP and Vogue discs he pops up everywhere, and I never really thought his playing was that great. There's nothing wrong with it, for sure, but sometimes I'd with for Solal or Urtreger or Peiffer instead... If you're interested in all star affairs, there's also that date on one of the first of the "Birdlanders" OJCs, feat. Renaud with Kai & Jay, Cohn, Bags, Percy Heath, a.o.

Thanks for all the work, Jim!

You Swiss must not realize that the "merkin" is the state animal of Arizona. click smiley to learn everything you ever wanted to know about the merkin...

originally Liz Taylor was a stunningly beautiful lady: (from "Suddenly Last Summer") then she started morphing... somewhere along the way she might have looked like the Warhol picture... but she got lost and now she looks very similar to Michael Jackson... who on the other hand was quite a cute kid long ago: who started morphing in his own right, and now looks almost the way Liz Taylor would like to look (my assumption, at least...): but now that Jackson has morphed on, I'm really not sure anymore who is who... this is all so confusing, I tellya!

That's definitely a big advantage we jazz-addicts have