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Thanks a lot brownie! I wasn't having any doubts about having to get the Uptown sooner or later, I was just wondering... and I did notice some duplications at least as song titles are concerned. I'll now first wait for delivery of the four Devil's Music discs and then see again...

But you weren't there, were you? Also just heard the broadcast? (I heard that you were in the South, so...) Maybe it's also the production (at least in the case of the Footprints disc) that made the music sound a bit... well, lacking warmth, sounding cool in a negative way.

Rabih Abou-Khalil wrote a composition he titled "Lewinsky March", why is that one missing?

Felix Krull (always loved that one!) Slow Drag is indeed a cool one! There's another musician connected to George Lewis, "Kid Shots" (or actually Louis Madison)

Just ordered all four volumes! 33.52$ (new!) from Djangos, free shipping! Cool! Glad I checked in there before I started searching through Amazon marketplace...

Thanks a lot, Lon! The Condon Mob is just too rich for me in its vinyl version... having just picked up the O'Day and the Ory sets! I'll orded the Devil's! And at some later time (some of) the Definitives. Is the Uptown covered in that 2CD live set on Definitive (would not surprise me...)? I promise, that's the last question for now!

Thanks Lon! So I should get those Devil's Music discs... The Black Lion, is that the duo with Ellis Larkins? I forgot about the Uptown - what does it contain? Some live rarities? The Condons I missed - pity! Same for the Commodores - those were all long gone when I first got aware of Mosaic (that was when they had the Tristano and Giuffre sets out new - I quickly started buying older boxes, but there were too many of them to get them all before they disappeared...) Back to Lee: what's that red one (the one of which I love the cover... see above) - is that one needed when I get the Devils? Or does that duplicate tracks taht are there anyway? And how do the Audiophiles relate to the 4CD Definitive? Included or not? Hmmmm many questions... pity I can't afford one of those CD-Rom discographies...

You haven't been impressed since "Footprintslive" or have you just not heard it? I was mightily impressed by that album already, and since by the Hancock-Shorter-Holland-Blade group (almost on the same level, I think, interaction-wise, maybe a little less spontaneous, and certainly different). Also some live gigs I've heard by the Shorter 4 are pretty impressive. And somehow I do think the Shorter 4 are a bit daring, for Ramatuelle's standards. I have heard practically the complete 2004 edition, and nothing there was even halfway where Shorter goes... What stroke me about the Ramatuelle set of Shorter's is that the music had an incredible warmth to it - something that it was often lacking a bit, even though I found it exciting, ever since the live disc.

Full prize then would be, uhm, twice 199.99, that is 399.99, right? That's business maths...

why, Booger of course... even today BN can pull a lame joke with his name...

$112 was the Mosaic list prize when the box was available. Not interested in this sale and I refuse to buy from people selling these items when they miss the outside box or any worthy document. ← Oh, these krazy kollectors.... Would you buy it if one of the CDs were missing? (just in case the music contained in it wasn´t a worthy document) ← I would sell you the missing disc from my own set, but only for 199.99$, of course, since the set is only worth half of the full prize with one disc missing, you see?

$112 was the Mosaic list prize when the box was available. Not interested in this sale and I refuse to buy from people selling these items when they miss the outside box or any worthy document. ← I know that it was 112$... that's what I paid. But guys posting such crap on ebay should not get 100% positive feedback... probably their customers are of the same breed?

Fresh Sounds has one RCA available: A Touch Of Blues Lee Wiley Featuring: Billy Butterfield and His Orchestra: Joe Ferrante (tp), Nick Travis (tp), Tony Faso (tp), Rex Peer (tb), Cutty Cutshall (tb), Hank D'Amico (s), Toots Mondello (s), Nick Caiazza (s), Al Cohn (s), Gene Allen (s), Moe Wechsler (p), Mundell Lowe (g), Milt Hil REFERENCE: 74321 90301 2 BAR CODE: 74321 903012 2 PRICE: 9.80 € Tracklisting: 1. The Memphis Blues 2. From The Land of Sky Blue Water 3. The Ace in the Hole 4. Someday You'll Be Sorry 5. My Melancholy Baby 6. A Hundred Years from Today 7. Blues in my Heart 8. Maybe You'll Be There 9. Between The Devil And The Deep Blue Sea 10. I Don't Want to Walk Without You, Baby 11. Make Believe 12. A Touch of the Blues Recorded in 1957 This one's not part of the Fifties 2CD set, it seems. (Probably one of the 2.5 RCA albums they left out on that set? Am I understanding their weirdo english right here?) It seems the Baldwin sets are much thorougher compared to the 4CD Definitive, since the first four volumes on Baldwin only cover her career up to 1940, while the Definitive goes up to 1951. Anyone has/knows the Baldwins?

Originally 199.99$ ???

And where did they steal the remasterings for their sets (Definitive, that is)? I am not aware of any previous box set...

Oh, and let me share this cover, love it!

Alright, some very kind person I came to know through the board sent me a self-compiled Lee Wiley disc, and... needless to say: love at first listen. Checking what's out there, I see that (of course...) Definitive has a couple of collections available (descpriptions taken from their website): DRCD11157 Manhattan Nights The Complete Golden Years Studio Recordings WILEY, LEE Worldwide first issue of all the songs recorded by the legendary, distinctive singer from her debut in 1931 to 1951. Includes her pioneer songbooks dedicated to works of the leading american popular composers. A glorious tribute to a forgotten lady. Carefully remastered [WOAHAHAHAHAHAAA!] 4 CD set JFCD22811 Complete Fifties Studio Masters WILEY, LEE For the first time, all the studio master takes recorded at the fifties (except Victor two LP and a half), plus a rare rehearsal recorded with pianist and club owner George Wein, and a session with Joe Bushkin in 1965. Includes Irving Berlin, Vincent Youmans and Richard Rodgers Songbooks, featuring Bobby Hackett, Ruby Braff and the duo Stan Freeman and Cy Walter. 2 CD set [funny description here! learn some english, folks!] JFCD22815 Manhattan Moods Outstading Live Recordings. WILEY, LEE Rare live performances recorded along her career. The perfect complement for our previous issues. 2 CD set Then I see that Baldwin Street Music (I have their fine Bill Harris release) has three volumes (plus a fourth in preparation) of Lee Wiley, "Completists' Ultimate Collection", as well as a release "Legendary - Collectors' Items 1931-1955" Now since I don't know anything about Wiley and her discography, I'd be glad about any pointers! It looks like Definitive may be the cheaper way to go, but I am certain that the Baldwin releases are prepared much more lovingly, and maybe are more complete, too (?). Next question: how are some of her later albums, such as "At Carnegie Hall 1972" and "Back Home Again"? Any recommendations, insight, episodes etc. appreciated!

And they don't either, at least not nowadays. In the early days of copy protection, the discs sometimes had the CD logo, and the record labels pretended that the discs were in accordance with the Red Book standard (of course they knew that they were lying). Philips reacted and forbade this: "...We've made sure they would put a very clear warning that you're not buying a compact disc, but something different. We've been warning some labels to begin with, and they've adjusted their behaviour. That means labels would also be barred from using the familiar "compact disc" logo that has been stamped on every CD since Philips and Sony jointly developed the technology in 1978." ← Now if only the guys & gals in the stores would have a f*@%ing clue about it! I've yet to meet some vendor who is aware what that copycrap symbol on their "CDs" means! No one has a feghing clue over here, so obviously no one is going to complain... Now more important: are these Legacy reissues *not* copy-protected over here? Has anyone checked that, are they out already? They'll be in stores here 2-4 - or in the worst case 8 or 10 - weeks after the European street date, so I'll be the last to really know... and I'd hate the Cellar Door being copy protected! What dumbasses!

This fits in with the American stupidity thread... this is so ridiculous. Should Selmer print on their ad something like: the beautiful women will not be delivered with the saxophone and are not related in any way to the product we sell? Or rather: only learn to play the saxophone if you already have a beautiful woman on your side? Why should tax money be spent because of such a moron? Probably future Selmer ads should include a line: "If you're a meat packager and thus - that's only natural, if you pursue that profession - constantly smelling of meat (not yours, but that of dead animals, of course), you will not have any rendez-vous with any beautiful ladies, regardless of your owning and mastering our Selmer saxophone."

The Shorter parts they broadcasted were absolutely great and stunning! It's so good to hear him play so well! I think he has gotten quite a bit better since he started with this quartet, some years ago, and he was terrific even back in 2001! The Moutin twins were pretty good as well - though it was mostly Rick Margitza who caught my ear. Let's hope for a later re-broadcast of the complete Shorter show! And thanks so much brownie for making me aware of this broadcast!

I just got a confirmation mail from John that he sent out the package for me. He told me that Jack has just sent him a few more discs of 8x9 - thus it's not too late, if anyone else still wants to get it!

Great on the fast tunes, but... uh, not really good on the ballads? Too much youthful drive and want to show off? Hawk is terrific throughout, of course!

I sent him a mail yesterday to put one on hold for me, and his reply was he had two left. I just sent the payment. Seems the us rats got hold of last ones! Chaney: no, I have only heard the two Leos by Not Missing Drums - I think the one you mention is on a different label. Not sure how Newton would fit in with what I've heard, but... would she not be too... what shall I say... to much of an individualist to really fit in with all the others?

I know this is not what you asked about (I have a cheapo disc on Definitive with some early sides, plus the fantastic Navarro/Dameron Blue Note 2CD set which has the Navarro/McGhee sides, nothing else as far as early Maggie is concerned)... but don't neglect this one: A mighty fine disc, in my opinion!

Thanks!