king ubu

tooter won't either, don't be afraid, I know!

You won't pin down #1!

Duke Ellington: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...=duke+ellington Count Basie (with Billie Holiday): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1...7&q=count+basie

... and here and here, smartasses

yes, sad time to play the Cecil Taylor Unit albums again, I guess...

#1? Moi non plus...

You're making a mistake with regard to the Brownie box! The strings date is marvellous, those just so singers are some of the best (the Helen Merrill album is beautiful! A classic!), and most of the jams are ok, too... and with a band such as the Brown/Roach quintet, having some alternates isn't a bad thing, even less so since Brownie left for another place so early... I would never hand in my Brownie material (3 Vogue discs, the BN 4CD set, this 10CD set, some live LPs and bootleg CDRs) for a shabby Properbox!

Well, I learned the hardway! Now I only use the harddrive for temporary storage of files I have in work... not that I lost anything *really* important, but it still did hurt!

The Complete Verve/Clef Charlie Ventura/Flip Philips Studio Sessions (#182) Discography This discography, drawn largely from Michel Ruppli's research contains all U.S. vinyl issues. Foreign or CD issues are included only if they contain the first release of a selection. (A) CHARLIE VENTURA AND HIS QUINTET: Conte Candoli (tp) Charlie Ventura (ts-1, bari-2,bass-3) Jimmy Wisner (p) Ace Tesone (b) Chick Keeney (Louis Cicchini) (d). NYC, March 7, 1951 523-6 Avalon -1,2 Merc/Clef 8942, EPC127, MGC117, Norgran MGN1073 524-1 I'm Confessin' -2 Merc/Clef 8942, EPC127, MGC117, Norgran MGN1073 525-9 Bugle Call Rag -1,2 Merc/Clef 8949, EPC127, MGC117, Norgran MGN1073 526-5 Rose Room -2 Merc/Clef 8995, Norgran EPN31, MGN1073, MGN1103, 527-6 That Old Feeling -1,2,3 Merc/Clef 8949, EPC127, MGC117, Norgran MGN1073 528-16 After You've Gone –1 Norgran MGN1103 MGN1073=Verve MGV8163. (B) CHARLIE VENTURA QUARTET: Charlie Ventura (ts-1, bari-2) Ralph Burns (p) Chubby Jackson (b, vcl) Chick Keeney (d) The Blentones, Betty Bennett (vcl). NYC, August 6, 1951 588-5 There's No You -1 (voTB) Clef 89068; Norgran EPN31, MGN1103 589-5 Perdido -1,2 (voTB, CJ) - - - 590-4 Can't Get You Out Of My Mind -2 (voBB,TB) Norgran EPN31 591-4 Lover –1 Norgran 118, EPN30, EPN109, MGN1021 MGN1013;Verve MGV8194 592-6 Yesterdays -1 (voTB) Clef 8995; Norgran EPN30, MGN1013 EPN30 = EPN76 All titles issued on Norgran MGN1073, Verve MGV8163. © CHARLIE VENTURA'S BIG FOUR: Charlie Ventura (ts) Marty Napoleon (p) Chubby Jackson (b) Buddy Rich (d). NYC, August 8, 1951 597-11 After You've Gone Merc/Clef 8957 598-1 Love Is Just Around The Corner-1 Merc/Clef 8965 599-3 Ol' Man River Merc/Clef 8957 600-6 O.H. Blues Merc/Clef 8965 -1 Buddy Rich (vcl), Mel Torme (d). This tune mislabeled "Tea For Two" on the jacket of MGN1075. All titles issued on Clef EPC130, MGC117, Norgran MGN1075, Verve MGV8165. (D) CHARLIE VENTURA QUARTET: Charlie Ventura (as-3, ts-1, bari-2 ) Gene Kutch (p) Ace Tesone (b) Chick Kenny (d). Fulton Studios, NYC, December 22, 1952 1104-9 Jersey Bounce –1 Norgran 104, EPN30, MGN1013, MGN1075 1105-3 Deep Purple –3 Norgran 104, EPN30, MGN1013, MGN1075 1106-3 Girl Of My Dreams –1 Norgran EPN14, MGN8, MGN1075 1107-2 Blue Prelude -2 Norgran 118, EPN14, MGN8, MGN1075 1108-3 C Jam Blues –1 previously unissued 1108-4 Ain't Misbehavin' –1 Norgran EPN14, MGN8, MGN1073 1109-1 Limehouse Blues –1 Norgran EPN14, MGN8, MGN1073 note: 1108 was inadvertently given to 2 titles recorded at this session. "C Jam Blues" was recorded before "Ain't Misbehavin'. MGN1073=Verve MGV8163. MGN1075=Verve MGV8165. EPN30=Norgran EPN76. (E) CHARLIE VENTURA QUARTET: Charlie Ventura (ts-1, bari-2) Hank Jones (p) Bob Carter (b) Jo Jones (d). Fulton Studios, NYC, January 5, 1953 1114-6 Blues For Two -1,2 1115-3 Somebody Loves Me -1,2 1116-10 Crazy Rhythm -1 1117-1 All The Things You Are -1 All titles issued on Norgran EPN13, MGN8, MGN1075, Verve MGV8165. (F) CHARLIE VENTURA QUARTET: Charlie Ventura (as-3, ts-1, bari-2, bass sax -4) Dave McKenna (p) Bob Carter (b) Sonny Igoe (d) Mary Ann McCall (vo). Fine Sound, NYC June 7, 1954 1749-7 Charlie’s Parley-1 Norgran EPN33, MGN1103 1750-5 Get Happy -3 Norgran EPN33, MGN1103 1751-5 Careless -1 (voMAMcC) Norgran EPN34, MGN1053; Verve MGV8143 1752-3 Please Be Kind -1(voMAMcC) Norgran EPN33, MGN1053; Verve MGV8143 1753-2 Detour Ahead -1(voMAMcC) Norgran EPN 34, MGN1053, Verve MGV8143 1754-1 Basin Street Blues –4 Norgran EPN 34, MGN1103 1755-1 Sam And Don -2 - - note: There were three takes of "Charlie's Parley" selected, but only the take 4 for EP, take 5 for LP and take 7. It appears that only take 7 was used in all cases. Takes 4 & 5 no longer exist. All titles issued on Norgran MGN20. (G) CHARLIE VENTURA AND HIS ORCHESTRA: Charlie Shavers (tp) Kai Winding (tb) Charlie Ventura (ts-1, bari-2) Danny Bank (fl, bari) Lenny Hambro (as, bs) Dave McKenna (p) Perry Lopez (g) Bob Carter (b) Sonny Igoe (d) Mary Ann McCall (vo), probably George Williams (arr). Fine Sound, NYC, August 16, 1954 1880-2 Swingin' On A Star –1 Norgran EPN77, MGN1034 1881-1 Charlie's Venture –1 - - 1882-2 The Breeze And I -1 - 1883-5 Soft Touch -2 - 1884-3 We'll Be Together Again -1 (voMAMcC) Norgran EPN78 1885-3 There'll Be Some Changes Made -1 (voMAMcC) Norgran EPN78 1886-4 It Don't Mean A Thing –1 Norgran EPN78 All titles issued on Norgran MGN1013, MGN1053, Verve MGV8143. (H) FLIP PHILLIPS-HOWARD McGHEE BOPTET: Howard McGhee (tp) Flip Phillips (ts) Hank Jones (p) Ray Brown (b) J.C. Heard (d). NYC, prob. Sept.-Oct. 1947 607 D Cake Merc/Clef 8902 607 E Cake (alternate take) previously unissued 608 E Znarg Blues Merc/Clef 8903 609 A My Old Flame (alt) –1 previously unissued 609 B My Old Flame-1 Merc/Clef 8903 610 C Cool (alt) previously unissued 610 D Cool Merc/Clef 8902 -1:McGhee out. All issued titles on Clef EPC112, MGC109, MGC693, Verve MGV8077. (I) FLIP PHILLIPS AND HIS ORCHESTRA: John D'Agostino, Buddy Morrow, Tommy Turk, Kai Winding (tb) Sonny Criss (as) Flip Phillips (ts) Mickey Crane (p) Ray Brown (b) Shelly Manne (d). NYC, February, 1949 2538/288-4 Swingin' For Julie And Brownie-1 Merc/Clef 8929, EPC119, MGC693 Verve MGV8077, 2538/288-8 Swingin' For Julie And Brownie (alt) -1 2540/290-4 Lazy River-2 Merc/Clef 8929, EPC119, MGC109, MGC693 Verve MGV8077, 2541/291-6 Flip's Idea All titles on Verve (CD) 521 661 -1:originally titled "Put That Back", then "Rainbow Corner" -2:omit Criss. Note: No source exists for 2539/289 an unissued original, later titled <SC>blow, flip, blow<XC> in the Clef recording log. (J) FLIP PHILLIPS AND HIS ORCHESTRA: Billy Butterfield (tp) Bennie Green (tb) Pete Mondello (as) Flip Phillips (ts) Mickey Crane (p) Sam Bruno (b) Max Roach (d). NYC, August 28, 1949 280-6 This Can't Be Love Merc/Clef 8908 281-2 Cookie - Both titles also issued on Clef EPC113, MGC109, MGC693, Verve MGV8077. (K) TOMMY TURK AND HIS ORCHESTRA Leonard Hawkins (tp), Tommy Turk, Frank Rosolino (tb), Flip Phillips (ts), Cecil Payne (bari), Mickey Crane (p), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d). NYC December 1, 1949 315-4 Two By Four Merc/Clef 8916 316-3 Bye Bye Blues Merc/Clef 8913 317-2 Encore Merc/Clef 8916 318-2 The Beat Merc/Clef 8913 all titles also issued on Clef EPC116, MGC122, Norgran MGN1065, Verve MGV8155 (L) FLIP PHILLIPS QUARTET: Flip Phillips (ts) Mickey Crane (p) Ray Brown (b) Jo Jones (d). NYC, December 5, 1949 325-3 Drowsy Merc/Clef 8911, EPC113, MGC133 326-12 Vortex - - - 327-8 Milano - - - 328-1 But beautiful Merc/Clef 8938, EPC171, MGC133 All titles issued on Clef MGC693, Verve MGV8077. (M) FLIP PHILLIPS QUARTET: Flip Phillips (ts) Hank Jones (p) Ray Brown (b) Buddy Rich (d). NYC, prob. March, 1950 360-5 Lover Merc/Clef 8918, EPC120 361-1 Don't Take Your Love From Me Merc/Clef 8919 - 362-2 Flip's Boogie Merc/Clef 8920, EPC119 363-1 Feelin' The Blues –1 Merc/Clef 8920, - 364-1 Lover Come Back To Me Merc/Clef 8919, EPC120 365-3 Blue Room Merc/Clef 8918, - -1 titled Flippin' The Blues on the original 78 release. All titles issued on Merc. MG25023, Clef MCG105. (8918/19/20= 78 album C-105) (N) FLIP PHILLIPS AND HIS ORCHESTRA: Harry Edison (tp) Flip Phillips (ts) Bill Harris (tb) Hank Jones (p) Billy Bauer (g) Ray Brown (b) Buddy Rich (d). NYC, July 1, 1950 439-4 Be Be Merc/Clef 8935, MGC133 440-4 Dream A Little Dream Of Me - - 441-2 Bright Blues Merc/Clef 8938 All titles issued on Clef EPC171, MGC691 and on Verve MGV8075. (O) FLIP PHILLIPS QUINTET: Bill Harris (tb) Flip Phillips (ts) Dick Hyman (p) Gene Ramey (b) Jo Jones (d). NYC, March 8, 1951 535-4 Cheek To Cheek Merc/Clef 8953, EPC172, MGC109 536-4 Funky Blues Clef EPC254, MGC634 537-5 I've Got My Love To Keep Me Warm Merc/Clef 8953, EPC172, MGC133 538-11 Indiana Clef MGC634 All titles also issued on Clef MCG691, Verve MGV8075. Note: The final tune recorded at this session was a first attempt at <SC>sojoro<XC>(mx539-4). No tape of this unissued performance has survived. (P) FLIP PHILLIPS QUINTET: Bill Harris (tb) Flip Phillips (ts) Lou Levy (p) Jimmy Woode (b, vo) Joe McDonald (d). LA, August 9, 1951 614-3 Broadway Merc/Clef 8960, EPC172, MGC133, MGC691 615-6 Sojoro Clef MGC691;Verve MGV8075 617-2 Apple Honey Merc/Clef 8960, EPC172, MGC133, MGC691 618-2 Wrap Your Troubles In Dreams (voJW) Clef MGC691 619-2 Long Island Boogie Merc/Clef 89122, MGC691 620-1 Stardust - MGC634, MGC691 MGC691=Verve MGV8075. Note: No tape has survived of the unissued tune <SC>woodwork<XC> (mx616-1). (Q) FLIP PHILLIPS AND HIS ORCHESTRA: Allen Smith (tp) Charlie Etter (tb) Flip Phillips (ts) Jerome Richardson (bari) Richard Wyands (p) Vernon Alley (b) Earl Watkins (d). San Francisco, February, 1952 711-5 Goodbye Merc/Clef 8978, MGC692 712-3 Salute To Pres - - 713-3 Swedish Pastry - - 714-1 Undecided previously unissued Note: "Undecided" was listed as "Flippin' in some Clef paperwork and has been listed that way in some discographies. First three titles also issued on Clef MGC634. ® FLIP PHILLIPS AND HIS ORCHESTRA: Al Porcino (tp) Bill Harris (tb) Charlie Kennedy (as) Flip Phillips (ts) Cecil Payne (bari) Mickey Crane (p) Freddie Green (g) Clyde Lombardi (b) Max Roach (d). NYC, March 21, 1952 749-3 Someone To Watch Over Me 750-3 I'm Puttin' All My Eggs In One Basket Merc/Clef 89111 751-2 Singin' In The Rain - 752-2 Gina - All titles issued on Clef EPC210, MGC158, MGC692, Verve MGV8076. (S) NICK ESPOSITO SEXTET Bennie Green (tb), Flip Phillips (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Nick Esposito (g), Ray Brown (b), J.C. Heard (d). Radio Recorders, LA June 9, 1952 772-5 Empty Ballroom Blues Merc/Clef 89010 773-8 Cherry Merc/Clef 89053 774-2 San Francisco Blues - 775-5 Love Is Just Around The Corner Merc/Clef 89010 all titles also issued on Clef EPC159. (T) FLIP PHILLIPS SEXTET: Charlie Shavers (tp) Flip Phillips (ts) Oscar Peterson (p) Barney Kessel (g) Ray Brown (b) Alvin Stoller (d). LA, June, 1952 776-6 If I Had You-1 Merc/ Clef 8994 777-13 Cottontail Merc/Clef 89022 778-2 Blues For The Midgets - 779-2 What Is This Thing Called Love? Merc/Clef 8994 -1:omit Shavers. All titles issued on Clef EPC173, MGC158, MGC692, Verve MGV8076. (U) FLIP PHILLIPS-BUDDY RICH TRIO: Flip Phillips (ts) Hank Jones (p, org-1) Buddy Rich (d). NYC, December 14, 1952 970-13 Carioca Merc/Clef 89030, EPC253, MGC634 971-1 Three Little Words - EPC254 - 972-1 Sleepy Head Merc/Clef 89066 - - 973-7 Bugle Call Rag - EPC253, MGC634 974-5 Take The A Train - - Norgran MGN1034 975-1 I Didn't Know What Time It Was Clef EPC253, MGC634 Norgran MGN1034. 976-1 Trio Boogie-1 Clef EPC254, MGC634, MGC692 MGC692=Verve MGV8076. MGN1034=Verve MGV8125. (V) FLIP PHILLIPS QUINTET: Flip Phillips (ts) Oscar Peterson (p) Herb Ellis (g) Ray Brown (b) Buddy Rich (d) Fine Sound, NYC, September 13, 1954 1939-2 Almost Like Being In Love Clef EPC261 1940-5 Singing The Blues - 1941-1 All Of Me Clef EPC262 1942-5 I'll Never Be The Same - 1943-2 Lemon Aid 21 Clef EPC261 1944-1 Birth Of The Blues Clef EPC260 1945-2 I've Got The World On A String Clef EPC262 1946-3 The Lady's In Love With You Clef EPC260 All titles issued on Clef MGC637, MGC740, Verve MGV8116. (W) BUDDY RICH QUARTET Flip Phillips (ts), Ronnie Ball (p), Peter Ind (b), Buddy Rich (d) Johnina Hotel, Miami Florida, May, 1957 22377 Lover Come Back To Me Verve MGV8285 22378 Topsy - 22379 Undecided - 22380 Broadway - 2V6S-8824 22381 Jumpin' At The Woodside - - Original sessions produced by or for Norman Granz. Session W produced by Barney Kessel. Produced for release by Michael Cuscuna and Scott Wenzel Executive producer: Charlie Lourie Tape transfers: Chris Herles CD mastering: Malcolm Addey LP mastering: Duncan Stanbury All selections are mono. Special thanks to Ben Young and the Institute Of Jazz Studies

I have a 120GB external drive (sorry, can't tell what label, but I think Maxtor) and it crashed with 100GB of music on it (FLACs, so the loss was ca. 120-150 CDs, but most of it irreplaceable). So the best advice would be: get two drives of the same size and make sure to copy all put on one onto the other... not that I do it, but that's because I'm not willing to buy another drive that breaks down... (it was three months old when it happened, I got it replaced within about three weeks, but of course not even an attempt was made at restoring any data... and the box the drive's in was badly scratched by the screwdrivers those idiots used to open it).

I am not smelly! Oh, whatever, the disc arrived, and I tore it open before I noted the couwy smell, so I won't return it, ok? thanks in advance, brownie! I'll try and play it soon!

Eeek! I will put a big fat red "refusé" on the enveloppe and bring it back to the post office immediately, then!

Gads, fegh you all! I had no clue who this Yanni chap was before you had to start this thread... But I sure like his left tit!

Sad news

Great read indeed, thanks!

Me, too ...... ..... have the first track as well and didn't get it either. Our collections are too big. True! Of course I have the great MPS twofer... but, hey, if I had a wife to drive around, I would have certainly pinned the Grolnick, as well!

I have the Grolnick twofer, but haven't played it a loooong time... too long! It's a very good one!

What's that about #6 being Nathan Davis??? Mike, am I out to be the one most embarassing poster in this thread, tell me!!!

OK, Randy. Track #8 positively ID'd. A little tricky because of course it's Coltrane and the quartet in '65, but the two saxophones are due to a bit of Trane overdubbing. The track is "Living Space" (Impulse). Oh, thanks for pinning that one down! So it indeed is Trane! It got more and more likely as the track continued, but since I never got "Living Space" (the disc), I guess this overdubbing experiment so far escaped me... I also thought I recognized Jimmy Garrison, not sure McCoy and Elvin.

Thanks a lot Randy for still sending me a copy of your disc! Below is what I typed up in real-time during the first (and so far only - had the disc in the mail last night) listen: #1 Eddie Gomez-like bass…don’t like it that much. Could be Bill Evans? I am not familiar yet with his later recordings, although I own a big chunck of them… bass solo is much more to my liking than accompaniment. Drummer is a bit too light for my likings… #2 Folksy stuff… ECM? (upon entrance of soprano sax) Garbarek? Percussion is rather nice… all in all a nice track, but not one that I’d play all too often. Probably some seventies ECM stuff? Not sure who the pianist could be, but I think I like him best. Bass does not provide enough bottom, really… some of those small piano licks remind me very much of Jarrett, but the overall groove does not sound a lot like him… or could this be his Yurpean quartet? I have one CD, or maybe even two, but have only played them once and that was a long time ago… not sure if Christensen does all that percussion stuff… #3 Again that bass sound… though this time the bassist goes down a bit from time to time… tenor gets pretty wild, but I’m not sure how well this kind of blowing meshes with the rest of the band. Something bugs me about sound here… ECM again? Drums sound so bright, bass so clean and non-deep… but still probably my favourite track so far. No guesses… theme is not really fitting with the tenor blow-out… #4 A post-Trane hymn? The saxes fit together nicely. Sound, alas, is not much greater… nice first tenor solo! Not sure it goes anywhere, but I like it quite a bit! Second tenor is ok, too. #5 Somehow it seems all the music so far is from a period that is not one covered very well in my collection, roughly 1975-1990, I guess… I need to overcome the sound of these recordings quite a bit to enjoy the actual playing… same again on this cut. Tenor and trombone make a nice frontline, though. But again the drummer doesn’t really do it for me (didn’t do it on #4 either, I’m afraid). This is not my favourite cut… not that I really dislike it (except for the drummer), but it just doesn’t do a lot for me. Nice flute over the outro vamp! #6 This starts out great! A simple blues… maybe in the footsteps of some of those themes on “Coltrane Plays the Blues”… and then again the out of tempo part… trumpet has a haunting quality. And the tenor is there, marking full presence with that first separate tone. Very nice! This is older than the preceeding tracks… I guess I should know this and I may even have it on a CD I barely know… some Wayne Shorter Blue Note? Being away from my collection I cannot compare, but this could be Freddie Hubbard? Thus it would be from “Speak no Evil”? No, wait, it’s Lee Morgan? So AMG tells me it’s the title-cut, right? Great one! Definitely my favourite track so far! Rhythm section is great, but then of course I love Elvin! And Workman’s short bass spot it excellent, too! (Ok, I just checked the sample on AMG… glad I was able to pin at least one cut down!) #7 Sounds very familiar! Hmm… not sure if I ought to know this. Another nice cut, for sure! Very nice trombone solo! This may turn out embarrassing… I am really not sure if I know it, but I like it! #8 The good run continues! Reminds me a lot of the fourth movement of Coltrane’s “A Love Supreme”… but then it’s most certainly not Coltrane, is it? When the beat gets stready (and rocking!) and soprano #1 takes off things get even more Trane-like… but the sound of the soprano player as long as he’s wailing is rather different (when he does those little squeals high up he sounds quite like Trane, though!). Now having Trane himself in such a two soprano setting would be something! Drummer does his Elvin? Or is that Elvin himself? Maybe even some Elvin recording? (I still have to get that Mosaic…) Ok, this is Elvin himself, I’d say. McCoy, for sure. Hmm… now this starts sounding more and more like the classic Coltrane quartet… hmm… I am so clueless! Whatever this is, it is great! #9 Oy! Cello and trumpets and drums and basses… very nice! Dave Douglas? I am clueless again, but this is one more great track – I enjoy the cello a lot here, and all the others do very fine, as well! So in short, I enjoyed the second half of the CD a lot, but found the first half just ok. No offense to be taken, just different tastes, I guess. Thanks a lot, Randy, for putting this disc together!

Another fan of Shirley Scott here! Jim, I read that same story, prob. in some liner notes (I have two of her Prestige twofers, one being the Moodsville thing that has her on piano for half of the tracks - prob. read it in the notes to one of those). "On a Clear Day" is also a very fine album!

Steve is better known as a Bansuri player (Hindustani classical bamboo flute). I've had the pleasure of hearing him perform many times. http://stevegorn.com/ You know, usually I'm rather sceptical about caucasians playing indian classical music/instruments... but yes, Gorn plays bansuri on this Lindberg disc, too, and it fits in nicely! (Or is that a live recording of the group where he plays bansuri? Now I'm not sure anymore... whatever, the master of the instrument is Hariprasad Chaurasia!)

I like all of the Hilliard Ensemble's discs I have heard:

Some more 6 year old stuff... *************************** back on topic: what's the word here about Taylor's Leo discs? I recently found "Tzotzil / Mummers / Tzotzil" in a sale and gave it a spin. I think it's pretty much ok. Taylor himself is great, Ward is a bit... different from his usual self (but then his full-bodied soulful alto would be totally misplaced in this context, anyway), and Leroy Jenkins is rather great! It's more of a group recording, though, as I hear it.

Plenty of that around here, too - just not in the center of the city (where all the above photos have been taken - you'll note that the church with the twin towers, the "Grossmünster", is on most of them).