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Thanks for checking, John!

Here's all my best wishes, Lon! Keep going strong!

Is that so? But then you re-formatted them and all, yes? Anyway, same here, if I typed it up already... ***************** Got me my Mingus box yesterday! GREAT! Thanks again tjobbe for letting us know about it! Only played half of disc 1 when I came home late, but had a look at the book and it looks marvellous! Also I gladly noted that several non-Mingus things are in the Debut Story box, which would have been hard to part with, since it's another very nicely done package!

In July, he toured Europe (with Wallace Roney, Steve Turre, Donald Harrison, Eric Alexander, Charnett Moffett and Eric Gravatt), so I guess it can't be that bad...

fasstrack, I enjoyed reading your longer post a lot What Lazaro said was that they (you know what it refers to) are more valid than they're given credit for - that's totally (and sadly so) true, isn't it? Sure, maybe Ornette isn't a very easy character etc, but hey, he's a giant, he's among us - who knows, who cares? Even many people posting here consider Jimmy Smith and Grant Green and Hank Mobley more important still today... not that that's not ok, but there's more than that... Maybe innovations building upon (challenging something is at the same time building on it, isn't that true in almost all cases?) basics, rules, roots, whatever, are more valid than sort of museum-like recreations of past achievements (Wynton etc.)? I'd say yes, but even that is debatalbe, I assume. And one more point: the "rules" and "foundations" may be somewhere hidden very early, in the dark (myths? or at least being mythologized?), but then what's considered by many to be "foundations" or "rules" haven't been there from the beginning... what today's mainstream (which hasn't evolved muchly since around 1960) is built upon is a fundament that was revolutionary, too, in the 40s, wasn't it? So maybe the "set of rules" itself is evolving, too? Most likely...

I see it's starring Rooster!

I want all of those... (have the others, Slime on CD), except there are doubts about the Berigan and even more the Prima/Manone... slight doubts, too, about Venuti/Land, Bix/Tram/Tea and Condon Mob, but I am pretty sure I'll eventually end up owning them. It's more a question of: do I need so many discs of these artists, rather than if I actually want it or not. But for now, I spent so much at zweitausendeins I'll definitely have to pass this time!

Hey, I share your feelings, but please keep Koller out of there! He's one of the most important european jazz musicians, I think, and it's great that his albums are out again! And some of them may even please you, too... if not, there's still another recently issued one, "Jeanneret Tapes", featuring Manfed Schoof. Give him a chance!

Yeah, I remember that. Nothing seems to have come of it, according to AMG at least. The few titles that were out several years ago are all I see. I thought Afrodisiaca was reissued, but no evidence here... Wow, is that several years already? The latest ones I saw in stores were all even more mainstream (Oscar Peterson, mainly, some with Ray Brown and/or Milt Jackson) than the earlier ones (Mangelsdorff, the Koller ones, Dauner, Jankowski etc.). Haven't heard of anything or seen any new ones since those.

Oh man, I wish I could afford this!

huh? want to torture Mel a bit?

Loved it, thanks for the link!

Just let me add one more thing, again mainly directed at Conn: English is not my native tongue (far from...) and I have seriously never given a thought about a spelling like "yurpeen" having had any anti-US implication (probably my bad, maybe embarassing to say this here). This all comes down that I think your reaction may have been a little bit on the touchy side. Not that you're not allowed to be touchy, I've been so several times on this board, myself. It's just that the language we're conversing in here isn't the native tongue for several of us non-UK european fellows and thus some of the finer distinctions may escape us or as in this case be beyond our knowledge.

"The Buck Stops Here" is indeed enjoyable, even more so since Coles is present as well! Hill also has discs out on Steeplechase, of which I have one - they seem all to be fine as well! I'll have to look for this new one Nate, sounds good indeed!

Great stuff, these suites. In fact all the Ellington on Pablo is worth grabbing, doesn't get the attention it should. Good to hear that! It's on my pile of unheard OJC discs... but not the K2, just the jewel case OJC...

Did you check AMG? There's a thread here as well, I think there were two guys posting news there but only one with a connection to Universal Austria (using as a handle "soulpope", I think).

Can anyone actually confirm that the last two tracks belong to this same recording? Why would BN have omitted them if they were on the same tape? Seems they come from the Monk Family/Site...

Wow, who would imagine that this guy could get violently drunk and spew crazy, hateful nonsense? Says a lot about him, doesn't it... Isn't this Saddam? *********************************** Sorry, Conn, if I got carried away, but wolff's two attacks - blatantly racist post, with *no* point at all - were really getting on my nerves. And you can't tell there have been countless reactions against them - there were some, yes, and thanks for these! Anyway, I'm in no way anti-american, but - I won't go into politics, I just mention this now - the current regime there and the whole neo-con gang *is* getting on my nerves, indeed. This is no reason to turn into an anti-american person, though, and I am sorry if my stoopid spellink hurt any feelings. It was definitely not intended, and as couw said - thanks for stepping in, amigo! - I don't thing some stoopid spellinks in such a stoopid discussion should hurt anyone. And @moose: no, why should we revert to PMs? Wolff has posted his disgusting stuff in the open, so it stands there and there's need for reaction to it. In my opinion, these threads can be closed or deleted or whatever, but if the junk spills in the open, the cleaning up has to take place there, too. Hey, and as a last note, just let me make clear that I have never considered wolff's opinion a majority point of view here - not for a second! I am well aware of the great and open-minded folks on this board, and that's probably why I enjoy it so much here, so keep the spirits up!

Paul, I'm very sorry to hear this. I don't mingle with these personal threads that often, but I still read some of them, and I can remember how lovingly and happily you spoke about your wife and your being together. I can't say I've been through it, but still, I really hope you get back on your feet despite all of it. Time doesn't heal wounds, I think, but it certainly helps incorporating trouble and bad parts of ones life into ones own "history" and personality. On a little cheering up side: I got your CD ("Gallery", that is) from CDbaby last week and enjoyed it a lot! Your trombone artistry is great, and some of the sidemen turn in great solos as well! A very measured and balanced album, good arrangements, too! If you'd done a bit more shameless self-promotion, I'd have heard this one years ago, so please next time cry out loud!

Ain't that MF FN Michael Caine a Sir of her majesty the queen from england and some other FN yurpeen isles? Probably the only worthwhile name on that FN list, anyway (Tarantino is alright, but not half as original as some FN half-bred film fans think).

Maybe someone should explain FN wolf that FN cinema is a FN French invention? And that FN French cinema has abso-FN-lutely more to offer than FN Hollywood (which has FN been founded by FN jews except for the FN warner Proletarier) would never be what it is without FN yurpeen emigrants? Or what, maybe it was great while the FN yurpeens where still around doing their FN films? And now that the FN yurpeens are dead it's FN bull what they FN produce there, mostly? Oh, wait, maybe that's what FN wolf FN wanted to say: that's us FN yurpeens whose fault the sorry FN state of FN hollowood is, and that FN we're to FN blame for FN Mel's FN antisemitism? FNF!

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Max Roach's Bejing Trio - saw them live in 2001 or 2002 and that was one astonishing concert. Totally free, open music, going places, and Roach even at this age was still so great, so agile (not only from a technical point of view, but also from musicianship, reaction, empathy etc.)

Huh... quick end to a very nice thought after having read the thread's title...

Still FN waiting for FN wolf's FN apology. Sorry to FN bring this FN topic off FN topic again, but that FN post needs a FN apology, FNF!