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just finished my first listen to the Art Hodes - wonderful indeed! now:

Oh, that was you, I remember that of course! And crazy enough, when i went back to that shop several weeks later, they had another copy of the box there!

Yeah! Played LPs 1-3 straight through. I've heard the music before, but it's so darn good, I finally needed to get the box for real!

The Complete Art Hodes Blue Note Sessions finally!

The one from the eighties? there's a second one from 2012 ... only know his "Free Jazz" so far, has been extremely helpful for me, back when I was in my teens and struggled with "Ascension" and the like. (And no, it's just the freaky quote function that went mad in Simon's post, I think.)

So you think it's the Atlantic studio recordings of the Giuffre 3? That would be a lousy move indeed ... the fact that a search for Jim Hall on the Nagel Heyer website does not turn up a thing makes it look pretty fishy indeed. The music is great of course, no doubt about that (even if it ends up being stuff I don't know, I'm quite positive about that).

Thanks a lot, ep1istr0phy - the whole topic is of course highly interesting, but I guess I'd rather read Allen's "counter"-narrative about it, rather than a book that seems to go in the more or less usual direction.

No thoughts, can't seem to find any specifics online. Care to share some more details? If this is a full disc of Giuffre 3 recordings, I 'd surely be interested. That is, if this isn't just stuff around already ... Nagel-Heyer is legit, but this will most likely be a PD release, so ...

Yep, seen 6 so far - hopefully they'll show the missing 3 on telly here, too! (Don't feel like paying extra or netflxing or whatever, can hardly keep up with the regular/basic stuff we pay for already.)

assuming that's what this thread is about .... enjoyed the first two (mini-)seasons a lot - hoping for more to come!

mine is already on its way! the label has indeed brought out some good stuff, hopefully they'll do more like this!

let me plug this one, since the world needs to know (not knowing you don't need to know is no excuse, mind me ): http://matsulimusic.bandcamp.com/album/inhlupeko-distress Inhlupeko (Distress)by The Soul Jazzmen 1. Inhlupeko 10:35 2. Relaxin' 08:11 3. Mr Mecca 06:34 4. How Old is the World 08:47 5. Love For Sale 10:05 6. Dollar the Great 04:05 about Inhlupeko, alongside the other massive jazz hit of the era, Winston Mankunku's Yakhal'Inkomo, sums up the South African jazz sound and mood of the late 1960s, its bluesy inflections heralding a more hard-bop feel of music in the decade to come. Defiantly modern, and seeking inspiration from the "black heroes" of John Coltrane, Dexter Gordon, Elvin Jones, Ron Carter, Johnny Hodges and Lockjaw Davis, this album envisioned what a new South Africa might sound like. Tete Mbambisa composed four of the six tracks on the album. Of the two others, the title track is the work of tenorman Duku Makasi. The other track is a standard, Love for Sale, also frequently covered by Makasi’s contemporary, the equally important Winston ‘Mankunku’ Ngozi. Pianist Mbambisa’s memories reveal a great deal about the environment in which the progressive black players of the era worked. The album, recorded at the EMI Studios in Johannesburg – “they had the best sound at that time,” recalls Mbambisa – was the brainchild of two important jazz organisers of the era: Ray Thabakgolo Nkwe in Johannesburg and Monde Sikutshwa in Port Elizabeth (PE). “Ray and Monde talked about doing an album with Duke and some other Eastern Cape musicians. After a while, they called me up from East London to do the arrangements. People know that’s my gift: from the time I was involved in vocal groups I have had an ear for arranging. Apart from Inhlupeko, Duke’s tune, I selected the tunes. We were all travelling at the time, doing shows, but there were long rehearsals for this material. We’d play, and discuss, and then go off to a shebeen – and carry on discussing the music. A lot of thinking went into it. I’d say probably about a month. I was travelling with the musicians in a kombi – it was supposed to be a jazz tour with Mankunku too, but he had another gig with Chris Schilder (Ibrahim Khalil Shihab) in Rustenburg, so in a way it became a launch for the Inhlupeko material.” In fact, Mankunku was launching his second album as leader, Spring. Music writers at the time made much of the fact that the title track of that album was ‘stolen’ from the melody of Inhlupeko (and Makasi used to joke with Ngozi about it) but Mbambisa feels that something different was going on. “It was that Trane style. We were all in the same kind of place musically at that time.” South African jazz players felt a strong affinity with John Coltrane, who had died only a couple of years earlier. The expressive mastery of his playing and the soulful, spiritual searching of his mood served as both revelation and inspiration. It was the search for that Coltrane feel that guided Mbambisa’s final choice of players. The acknowledged affinity in creative approach –in the words of trumpeter Johnny Mekoa: “these were our black heroes…and the music sounded a bit like our mbaqanga here” – fed, rather than stifled originality. In the music they created, South Africans always started from what another trumpeter from an earlier era, the late Banzi Bangani, called “that thing that was ours”, not only in musical idioms, but also in history and experience. As scholar Robin Kelley has noted, both urban Africans and urban Americans were consciously crafting “modern” music – and in South Africa’s case, it was a modernism deliberately and defiantly set in opposition to the narrow, backwards-looking parochialism of apartheid, where some white universities did not even permit gender-mixed dancing until the 1970s. The sophisticated, snappily-dressed black players of South Africa’s cities in the 1960s were not trying to ‘be like’ America; rather, they were enacting in their performance, and reaching through their horns for what a new South Africa might sound like. Coltrane’s searching voice was a natural lodestone, for as Kelley has also observed: “the most powerful map of the New World is in the imagination.” The studio session that laid down the tracks was far from the original liner note fable of a spontaneous blow over a bottle. As well as the extensive rehearsal that had preceded it, it carried its own stresses. “In those days,” Mbambisa recalls, “they used to tell you all the time how much they were paying for an hour in the studio. So they give you pressure: ‘Come on guys! This is costing me!” However, thanks to that extensive preparation, the pressure wasn’t too much of a problem. Mbambisa has always disliked an overworked feel on his recordings: “that’s why my albums catch that live feel, even from the studio.” That was particularly important for this session. The quality he was looking for was, he says, “connectedness. If you can’t be connected, forget it. So I told them: Hey, guys, let’s try and do these in one take only or we’ll lose the feel.” He says that none of the tracks used more than two takes, and most were completed in one. But the hurried, penny-pinching recording was also reflected in the way the album was presented. Makasi’s name is inconsistently presented as ‘Duke’ and “Duku’ in different places. Even the title, Inhlupeko, appears in that form (the isiZulu spelling) on the cover and notes, but ‘Intlupheko’ (the isiXhosa form) on the disc label, suggesting a hasty process. The word itself can be translated as ‘distress’, but like many African-language words with their multiple poetic resonances, also as ‘inconvenience’, ‘trouble’, ‘poverty’ and more. For the artists it had all those resonances – to whose more political implications Nkwe would certainly not have wished to draw attention in his translation. The players were not told about the planned cover images, nor, as Mbambisa’s story confirms, were they sent copies of the LP. There was no advertising and no formal launch, and Mbambisa recalls that Sikutshwa also received no communication about the release. The LP was clearly pressed in a fairly small run, for when Mbambisa tried to buy his own copy, he could not immediately find it in any shops. The image conveyed by the cover also fitted well with other cultural currents of the era. The 1960s and 1970s were dominated by apartheid’s re-tribalisation project: a propaganda push to both the majority population and the world that black South Africans (even those whose families had been city-dwellers for decades) were essentially simple, rural people with no place in the cities and no capacity for sophisticated culture. Official patronage was given to neo-traditional sounds, particularly via the State broadcaster, the SABC, split into narrow, tribally based stations, the purity of whose musical contents must be verified by apartheid ‘experts’. In this context, state censors would certainly smile more kindly on an album whose images placed a syncretic music like jazz in a more disreputable corner. Matsuli Music is proud to be re-presenting this cornerstone album with restored audio on heavyweight 180g vinyl with accompanying sleeve notes by Gwen Ansell, author of Soweto Blues – Jazz, Popular Music and Politics in South Africa. creditsreleased 01 September 2015 Recorded 1969 Bass – Pych "Big-T" Ntsele* Drums – Mafufu Jama Piano – Tete MbambisaTenor Saxophone – Duku Makasi Producer – Ray Nkwe Engineer – Bonne Ter Steege Photography – Alf Khumalo Reissue production - Matt Temple, Chris Albertyn Sleeve notes - Gwen Ansell Design - Toby Attwell Audio restoration - Colin Young Vinyl cut - Frank Merrit

Didn't he retire sometime around 1957/58? (Oh, wait, whose line is that, Larry's, Allen's? )

as it's been mentioned in this thread, finally the re-print of Tercinet's book seems to really happen now: amazon.fr has some pages for preview: http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/2863646656

Sorry to hear this - shook hands with him a few years ago (2009?) after a concert he gave with local guys (tenor saxophonist Roman Schwaller, with whom he recorded, too) - he seemed pleased to to hear how much I enjoyed his playing and was very kind indeed, but was ushered away a second later to take some silly photos with those that organized the concert and some sponsors and crap. Felt like he'd rather kept chatting a bit ...

"Anita Sings the Most" is amazing - and of course, Peterson plays the most ... but it works just fine.

Happy Birthday, Bob! Hope you had some decent breakfast to get ready for all the drinking!

Maybe someone should re-record new piano parts for all those rekkids OP spoilt? So, let's have a poll: a) Liberace b) André Previn (hey, he's still alive) c) Harry S. - yup this dude: d) Gene Harris e) Lang Lang f) you (which will be of course much cheaper, but not sure that'll entail better results) so, we'll drink to that before opening the ballots - here's the soundtrack to it:

Wow, a reissue of Jerzy Milian's "Bazaar" - now how cool is that! Guess I'll have to re-activate my (non-existent) Polish skills again soon to get that one!

'course you are, so are we. same same but different.

Well, it's been such a long time, who can tell? But, mostly, probably...Just as much a pain in the neck damn intellectual as ever. must be the same guy then - heita!

Did you ever get a reply, Allen? And could you please share your overall impression of Saul's book? I know it's been a while, but still, would be cool!

Okay, I'm slow.... What is this signifying? "[...] not only is ornament produced by criminals but also a crime is committed through the fact that ornament inflicts serious insury on people's health, on the national budget and hence on cultural evolution." So, this is not to your taste? that is indeed pretty close to how i imagine hell

belated thanks - I missed sending them when you first posted your list ... had been after this for a while about ten years ago, and eventually brownie photocopied me the two relevant pages from the booklet (when I was on visit in 2006 or 2007) - I figured I needn't hunt for a copy of the Mosaic set, eventually, but it's good to have that info back again!

they don't make 'em like that any more