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Looks nice! And would likely fit the bill for the hardbop big band recommendations thread, too!

I am sure it's great, but I had the old CD and then got the 6CD Miles/Trane box and don't feel like buying it a third time... I assume the other, longer live date may sound quite a bit better than the version(s) I have, but still... I'd prefer seing them having some real jazz reissue programme, instead of just periodically re-re-reissuing their best selling albums (Miles, Weather Report, Mahavishnu...). At least they got Monk right (great, in my opinion), but then they can't even get Duke right...

I didn't get the 2CD "Round About Midnight" reissue... yes, now I remember one reason why being that it only contained that one big moment track... I never really got that anyway... there's plenty of Miles from 1954 that is better, but the public probably hadn't noticed by then, I assume... The "Miscellaneous Miles" CD is a good one to have, but I way overpayed it and in the meantime got all the stuff in various forms...

same old same old... I have most or all of this on various boots on Charly, Jazz Unlimited (I know I know... but their having the Newport gig out that's now "never before released" on one of those new boxes is a bit weird, no?) and other labels, partly even on LP... and the Birth of the Cool stuff has been out on the non-RVG "Complete Birth of the Cool" - stellar stuff, by the way! As usual, I'd say get the few things that were put out by reputable labels in a store, and get the rest by doing some trades... don't pay the bootleggers! (On the other hand, before I got into trading/bit-torrent circles, I'd have been oh so very glad to lay my hands on something like this...)

Red Rodney Quintet - Modern Music from Chicago (Fantasy/OJC) "Paragon" by Rivers is a pretty good one, I think! One of my favourites from the Rivers/Holland/Altschul gang (I don't assume I know all they recorded, in duo, trio or quartets with Daley and Lewis - all the ones I have are good, though).

I only knew him from this board, but I always enjoyed his contributions. Sad news.

African Waltz is quite fine! Two of the three albums of this Milt Jackson/Ray Brown Verve twofer are big band, too, one featuring Cannonball: This one's another good one, with Holman, Giuffre and other great soloists, and a slight west coast flavour:

Ra's "Jazz in Silhouette" is the feghing shit! This here might qualify, too, although it's only partly a big band date (rest is quartet and sextet or septet):

Happy Birthday, Jim!

Apologies, everyone. I quietly walk out the back door now...

What are you talking about? Jasmine in general?

And I apologize for peeing on your BN fetish party... I just felt like doing it, since we been there done that a dozen times and it doesn't go elsewhere just because we're doing it again. My point is not to bash Lee Morgan, I've got almost all of his BNs (where's that reissue of Delightfulee, please? That one I still miss), both the Mosaics, too... it's just that a lot of this hardbop stuff is formulaic in execution, no matter if the tunes are a bitch or the solos are da shit. There are days when I sort of get bored so much by the formulaic character of some of my favourite BNs that I just have to play something else... same happens to me with free improv - sometimes I realize 10 minutes into a CD that what I want is some Jelly Roll or Booby or Booger or whatever, not that freakin' free shit. And one last remark about hardbop: Savoy! It might not be as bluesy and all, but they did a whole lot of great albums that are rather rarely discussed here, and that offer some kind of difference if the hard-hitting BN approach gets tiring... maybe it's just me, but Introducing Lee Morgan or Jazz Message of Hank Mobley struck me as two of the finest efforts of both men from that period.

Give me a break... I didn't read anything up in order to be struck by Cecil's music - I've been a fan for a few years (yeah, about two thirds of the few years I've been listening to jazz), and I *occasionally* read something about the music. Just so happens Jost's book is a very good one and I happened to find a copy of it...

Happy birthday

belongs in the dudleyesque rhymes thread, it seems... he probably meditated watching his avatar too long

Christmas music is waaaay overrated, if you ask me Maybe Mel Torme's Christmas Song is the only one I can take now and then, otherwise none for me, please, just switch it off!

East Coasting is one of the most beautiful Mingus records, in my opinion. The presence of Bill Evans makes it really special. I hope you got the Avenue Jazz/Rhino version with an alternate or two? You should try and find that version of the "Modern Jazz Symposium" album - it has additional tracks, including some fantastic Shafi Hadi playing!

That's *the* Walter Perkins? The guy who was in MJT3 or what that group was called, and appeared on a few BNs? Great drummer, for sure, but Brötz seems a rather unlikely partner, no?

I picked up the Ian Hamer 2CD set from Lon (he had a duplicate) and I'm very happy with that one! The Tubby Hayes are on the loooooong wishlist. No need to worry, if all are such nice packages as that Hamer!

Happy birthday, David!

Thanks, I will think about it... (spent too much buying too many discs, of late... again... sigh!)

Where to find that disc? Amazon or JPC don't list it... any idea?

Very sad news

Base is not in my scheme (probably because indeed they were earlier and I just wasn't buying any weird stuff back then). Stollman says in that interview that ZYX passed on the license to Abraxas/Get Back... it's only those Italians I meant. Base releases are also mentioned on the Ayler site. Was that in the CD age or before?

It's tough to keep it straight, but it seems to be like this or similar: ZYX (German) licencsed the whole catalogue ZYX (not ESP themselves, as Stollman says in the interview above) sub-licensed it to Abraxas and/or GetBack (Italian - there seems to be a connection between them, maybe the one I mentioned, that GetBack was in fact another sub-license). And ZYX (or ESP? Didn't read the interview closely enough) also (sub-)licensed some to Calibre (Dutch) The ZYX deal ended quite some time ago, or they just stopped pressing their stuff once the Italians were in action. The Italian and Dutch discs is what was available before ESP got activated again a couple of years ago, and the Italian discs are still all over the web and shops (which Stollman mentions, and it's disgusting indeed that they don't get pulled now, but on the other hand they have many items in print that ESP has not yet come around to reissuing - the backside being that it might be unfeasible for ESP to reissue a particular title since it's already around and there may be no market for their own reissue). It's all pretty complicated... and if I hadn't, over the years, acquired discs from all these license holders (or bootleggers), I wouldn't have been bothered to check out the situation at all.