king ubu

there's a thread started by mikeweil in the misc. music section already! r.i.p.

You'll find plenty of news via google news, for instance this one here (Guardian): Composer Stockhausen dies aged 79 Obituary: Karlheinz Stockhausen David Batty and agencies Friday December 7, 2007 Guardian Unlimited Karlheinz Stockhausen, a controversial giant of 20th century musical modernism whose works were seldom embraced by mainstream concert audiences, has died at the age of 79, it was announced today. Endlessly prolific, whether in fashion or out of it, he composed 362 works, including the world's longest opera, Licht, a sequence of seven pieces - one for every day of the week. The whole piece lasts 29 hours. News of his death was released by the clarinettist Suzanne Stephens and flautist Kathinka Pasveer, two "companions" who had been associated with him for than 30 years and performed many of his works. "In friendship and gratitude for everything that he has given to us personally and to humanity through his love and his music, we bid farewell to Karlheinz Stockhausen, who lived to bring celestial music to humans, and human music to the celestial beings, so that man may listen to God and God may hear His children," they said in a statement. "On December 5, he ascended with joy through heaven's door in order to continue to compose in paradise with cosmic pulses in eternal harmony." They added that they would continue to protect Stockhausen's music. Their farewell was appropriate for a composer who never courted popularity or convention and in his later years continued to plough a lonely furrow. Born in 1928 in a village near Cologne, he trained first with the Swiss composer Frank Martin before making one of the key decisions of his life: he headed to Paris in 1952 to study with Olivier Messiaen and Darius Milhaud. Works hailed by enthusiasts (including the Beatles, who included him on the cover of the Sergeant Pepper album) as masterpieces included Gruppen (1955-57). The work is written for 109 players divided into three groups laid out before and to either side of the audience. Stimmung, his extended 70-minute piece for six voices, "completely refashioned the very idea of what a vocal ensemble might do and be", according to Paul Hillier, whose new recording was released last month. Reviewing the disc, the Guardian music critic Andrew Clements described the work as "a vast elaboration of a single six-note chord based on the overtones of the note B flat" and added: "Stimmung is one of the masterpieces of the last half century. Like all the greatest music it is unclassifiable - part meditation, part gigantic motet, part phonetic game - and totally resistant to imitation." Stockhausen embraced the new world of electronics. In a studio at the Paris Technical College, he laboured to produce "a structure, to be realised in an étude, that was already worked into the micro-dimension of a single sound, so that in every moment, however small, the overall principle of my idea would be present". He also developed his own take on serialism and declared in the early 1970s that "serial thinking is something that's come into our consciousness and will be there forever; it's relativity and nothing else . . . it's a spiritual and democratic attitude toward the world". The world moved on but Stockhausen refused to have anything to do with minimalists and post-modernists. And they chose to have nothing to do with him. Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,2224071,00.html

Thanks for posting the obit, brownie. Here's a reminder to everyone to grab a copy of Dizzy Reece's fine album "Asia Minor" (OJC Ltd. Edition - though to be OOP but currently part of the Concord sale again - likely the last chance to get the original CD at a sane prize...). The band includes a young Joe Farrell and obviously Cecil Payne on baritone sax! This album might be better than all of Reece's Blue Note albums, but of course it's much less hyped up... (don't get me wrong, I like the Blue Notes a lot!)

I must have missed this thread last time... "Musician of the Year" is indeed fine, it was the first Bert I had (a reissue LP). The date with J.R. Monterose is possibly even better, though... all of that material for Savoy has been collected on a great 2CD set by Fresh Sound, recently: Eddie Bert Quartet & Quintet - Crosstown (2CD) Fresh Sound in addition offers a single disc with very, very good 1953/54 sessions by Bert with bands including Vinnie Dean (as), Sal Salvador (g), Duke Jordan (p) and Sal Mosca (p - on one session only): Eddie Bert Quintet - Kaleidoscope Definitely an underrated musician here that many more jazz fans ought to hear!

Can't see new material being included in the 3CD set Turns out the image was taken by the great Hungarian-born photographer Paul Almasy who spend most of his life in Paris where he died four years ago! Some other photos by Almasy. Also to confirm that all the music in that 3CD set has been issued previously in the JinP individual discs or box sets. Thanks for this additional info, brownie! I hope you didn't have to check it track-by-track yourself! I've heard the name of Almasy, but that's all I know about him...

Eddie De Haas is also on Chris Connor's album, "Chris in person", which was done at the Village Vanguard. Hard to imagine a musician who's played the VV being regarded as unknown in a jazz context. The other members of the band were Kenny Burrell, Bill Rubenstein and Lex Humphreys. MG Eddie De Haas is all over the place if you start looking a bit closer! Like for instance he's on the three Steeplechase Vonski albums that I'm playing this afternoon! (And no, not Vonski + yurepean pick-up band but Jodie Christian, Wilbur Campbell and De Haas.) One would expect from a site providing "general overview" such as AMG that they indeed realize such things... but then I guess the individuals who actually are writing up the short texts on albums don't exaclty have that greater perspective that would be nice to see on such a site...

Volkher, you'll be more than welcome. There are still plenty of good wines to taste. And hopefully more Jazz in Paris releases by then! I thought they officially announced the end of the series? (Or are you just talking of good offers of previous releases that you'll pick up for Volkher?) Thanks Jim, that sounds very reasonable. I don't expect an answer that solves any question, for sure - and I sure can live with the board as it is right now. No way I blame you for what the members here do and don't! Anyway, I appreciate what you're doing for us a whole lot, that's for sure!

And then accordingly the other album should be called "Chet Baker Sings... Badly & Plays... But Marginally Better"? Yes, I have most of Baker's early stuff... I wouldn't bother about these reissue questions otherwise... the live discs are indeed among the finest!

No, I made individual orders. That works in the States with the free shipping but not as attractive for you. Thanks for clearing that, Chuck! Definitely not an option, but still good I didn't pay too much the Concord folks! "Just Us" on Prestige is another fine Richard Wyands trio date, although under the nominal leadership of Roy Haynes. Oh, I wasn't aware that Wyands was on that one... now that might indeed be the early trio date I've been looking for then! Thanks for the recommendation! I'll look for this disc! (On a side note: interesting choice of bassist there with Eddie De Haas... and funny that AMG calls him unknown... of course, all yurpeens are unknown in the US, except for guys like Mr. Chevrolet...)

I agree with the above statement of Daniel's, too - the changing general "mood" of the place has led me to post less and care less... I still browse here all of the time, and there are threads where I regularly post (like the film corner), but in general I've kind of distanced myself a bit... possibly that started way back with the whole che thing... so again it boils down to a personal thing were feelings were hurt and it took way too long for any kind of reaction from "the crowd" here (with noted exceptions, of course, no denying that!). As for brownie: you know how much I owe you and how much I enjoyed my trip in October - I will certainly not be out of touch even if you'd leave the board for good!

Although I have all of the music already - on the strenght of the first box I just ordered this one... bn.com has a 15 coupon (X7A7N3M it was for me - got it by mail - valid for only one item, not a whole order, and only to Dec. 13, I think). Anyway, 49$ all inclusive (cheapest shipping option, 8.48$), quite a deal, I'd say, with the $ worth sh*t! Looking forward to getting it (after having to bury plans to get it from someone as an x-mas gift...)

Yes, that's indeed great news! Never mind saying thanks to all of us donators, Jim - just keep the site going that's all we can hope for! And do accept the offers for help if necessary! I'm sure this board can get a bit too much with all the other much more important responsabilites you've got!

Does that mean you can use several coupons at once and I missed that? The one I used was from the letter about the sale that you can fine on the start page, but to find the coupon, you have to open the whole thing and go on reading some.

You’re confusing the hell out of me, king ubu! The compilation The Best Of Chet Baker Sings includes all material from Chet Baker Sings, and all from Chet Baker Sings And Plays except the strings session which instead ended up on the Grey December CD. Since both Sings and Sings And Plays now have been reissued on CD with original cover art and track order, all relevant material can be found on those CDs. In other words, the strings session is back where it originally was, on Sings And Plays. Hope that clears it up. The The Route CD includes three non-Pepper tracks. One is a Baker feature, one is a Kamuca feature, and one is a trio performance featuring pianist Pete Jolly. You get the entire session on that CD. Then, as long as we are talking about the 1952-57 Pacific Jazz/World Pacific recordings, there are of course also Theme Music From ”The James Dean Story”, Embraceable You, and the three 1953-54 live CDs, the earliest of which includes the original Jazz At Ann Arbor album, but also another session. Yes, this was a way for Blue Note to sell the same material again, but at the same time I must say that I much prefer the new incarnations: original albums with bonus material at the end when available. I guess I'm one of those who simply prefer the original album feeling. Thanks for these additional comments! They clear up some more of my questions... it's just too confusing... Just one thing "Chet Baker Sings" is still the old CD only, older than "The Best of Chet Baker Sings", no? As far as I know, that one hasn't been re-done in the recent series! Here's the cover of the one I'm talking of, just to avoid further confusion: The "James Dean" and "Embraceable You" discs I have, as well as the three live discs. I just left them out of discussion as there's nothing chaotic about them... same for the 1956 Baker/Freeman quartet re-encounter. That one also has only seen one US CD release, hasn't it?

here's a valuable candidate

something fishy going on here... (he he!)

Charlie who?

Evidence? I really don't see that as a problem... rather seems unlikely to me that this will not happen... remember that old chap who said mankind was a "zoon politkon" or something like that? To me, it would be less fun without at least having the possibility to post something else than jazz-related stuff... sure, we can all try and not make these little remarks, but no way you can just stop that totally. What *is* boring though is the continuing US-american navel-gaze in the politics forum (please, no, this is *not* a politic remark... it's a mere observation... if someone from some other area posts something in there, it's ignored more often than not, while the american topics just go merry-go-round... but then I guess that reflects the actual situation [now it's getting political, now I stop] << see these rooster[parenthes]ism? He he, where is he anyway, it wasn't him who started the fundraising poll!?!)

any volunteers? (hint, hint)

I guess quarterly would be fine, so you can just skip if you're in a bad situation, and if three months later it looks better, you can pay some - I guess it's not bad intention that keeps many of us from donating something... so regular reminders wouldn't be a bad idea. I'd certainly not pay something quarterly, but it wouldn't bother me to see a donation pop-up or banner or just one of those fixed (what's the word for that again?) topics somewhere (maybe even on top of all parts of the forum for say, one week).

The other one is much better, time to get it now, I'd say!

Here's my order: Order #: 11986 Date: 11/29/2007 06:06:13 CDT Products Swingin' With Pee Wee PRCD-24213-2 Price/Ea.: $13.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $13.98 It's All Right! OJCCD-944-2 Price/Ea.: $0.00 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $0.00 Luminescence! OJCCD-924-2 Price/Ea.: $8.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $8.98 Rediscovered Masters, Vol. 2 OJCCD-769-2 Price/Ea.: $8.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $8.98 Rediscovered Masters, Vol. 1 OJCCD-768-2 Price/Ea.: $8.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $8.98 Asia Minor OJCCD-1806-2 Price/Ea.: $10.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $10.98 Last Chorus OJCCD-1906-2 Price/Ea.: $10.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $10.98 The Happy Blues OJCCD-013-2 Price/Ea.: $8.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $8.98 Blows His Horn OJCCD-1728-2 Price/Ea.: $10.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $10.98 Can't Help Swingin' PRCD-24214-2 Price/Ea.: $13.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $13.98 In Copenhagen, 1981 2GCD-8201-2 Price/Ea.: $14.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $14.98 Roamin' With Richardson OJCCD-1849-2 Price/Ea.: $10.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $10.98 Midnight Oil OJCCD-1815-2 Price/Ea.: $10.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $10.98 Singin' And Swingin' OJCCD-1718-2 Price/Ea.: $10.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $10.98 Taylors Tenors OJCCD-1852-2 Price/Ea.: $10.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $10.98 Jackie's Pal OJCCD-1714-2 Price/Ea.: $10.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $10.98 Alto Madness OJCCD-1733-2 Price/Ea.: $8.98 Quantity: 1 SubTotal: $8.98 Shipping, Taxes & Other Charges Coupon:CMG5: ($17.57) Shipping: International FedEx: $40.00 Sales Tax: $0.00 Order Total: $198.11 Thank you! Your order is now being processed, and will ship 3 to 5 business days from the day the order is placed. Pre-sale orders will ship the week of release. Unfortunately, we are not currently processing back orders of out-of-stock products. If there is an out-of-stock item in your order, we will credit your credit card and notify you via email. You may always contact one of our Customer Service Representatives with any questions you may have, or to check on the status of your order. Customer Service Department Concord Music Group, Inc. (800)551-5299 customerservice@concordmusicgroup.com so I guess it's 20$ for each 100$ worth that you order (I had twice as many things in my basket and shipping was 80$... then I started cleaning it out and just when I got below 200, it went down to 40... maybe it's just 40 and 80, no 60 in between, but I wouldn't know... it's way too much, but then Mosaic is almost as bad, and with the coupon code you get some of it back, and also with the cheap prices and cheap exchange rate for $, it ain't all that bad...

Oh, I knew I forgot one favourite... there it is! Great one! (Again arranged by Paich, I think)

There's been some talk about Fantasy recommendations since Concord is having a big sal (all titles reduced, the tenth disc for free, plus if you enter some coupon-code, you get some more percent off... free shipping in the US, horrendous Fedex rates abroad... but fast delivery for sure!) So I just got my big package today, including the two Garland Rediscovered Masters, Teddy Edwards' "It's All Right", Barry Harris' "Luminescence!", Dizzy Reece's "Asia Minor", to name just a few of the OOP titles that are part of the sale (I assume as long as supplies last... it seems they "found" additional stock of many titles that were assumed to be gone for good... also worth mentioning the two Gil Mellés, all the Gigi Gryces, Woody Shaw's "Song of Songs"). Anyway, among the first discs I played this afternoon are the two fine albums by Jerome Richardson, who's much more than just a utility player and session man! I was aware of that before, but never had a chance to really check it out... sure, he appears here and there, turning in fine playing on flute or tenor, but these two albums still are worth a special recommendation. Midnight Oil (New Jazz 8205 / OJCCD 1815-2) with Jimmy Cleveland, Kenny Burrell, Hank Jones, Joe Benjamin and Charlie Persip, rec. by RVG, 1958-10-10 Richardson sticks to flute here, except for the opening track on which he plays meaty tenor. The flute/trombone frontline (with guitar) is mighty nice, not a combination heard too often (one notable team to do it was J.J. Johnson/Bobby Jaspar on the former's Columbia dates, part of the great Mosaic box). They do three originals by the leader (side a), a nice arrangement of "Caravan", plus an Artie Shaw tune ("Lyric") (side b). Roamin' with Richardson (New Jazz 8226 / OJCCD 1849-2) with Richard Wyands, George Tucker, Charlie Persip, rec. by RVG, 1959-10-21 Here we get the opportunity to hear Richardson on baritone, and he does great! On "Poinciana" he's on flute, he also plays tenor again, but the baritone playing is outstanding! The band with Wyands is great - this musician first caught my ear on the Eric Dolphy Prestige box, and I ever since enjoyed his contribution to all the albums he appears on as a sideman - I'd love to hear some trio stuff form him from those days, but as far as I know, there's nothing around. George Tucker and Charlie Persip, too, are fine individalists, and with Richardson the only horn, this is a mighty fine group! I can heartily recommend both discs! I assume it would be worth grabbing them quick, they might fetch incredible prices on Amazon marketplace (I didn't check, though). Oh, and both have fine cover photos, by Esmond Edwards (who supervised both dates), and by one Ben Robles (Midnight Oil).