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Thanks for that link, EKE! Will have to check the covers out! Most of them are reproduced on the CD covers, but only in very small form!

Sad news to start the weekend.... but how great that he was playing and on tour right until a couple of days before, wow! Definitely better than dying away slowly for years! Thanks for the photos, Mark!

Thanks for the custom warning - ouch! I hope I won't get such a bill, it would be a high one, I'm afraid...

Hm, they didn't send me an email at all, just the automated reply... but then I started wonding, four or five days after ordering, some FedEx chap delivered the package already...

Well, the order came today - by FedEx, as I wanted, even though I had only been charged USPS rate. And Customs didn't stop it. So that's a real nice Christmas present to myself. MG That's cool! My own 200$ order came by FedEx and passed customrs unnoticed as well, even though the cardboard box could house half a corpse...

Hey sir, look closer... I mentioned Cohn/Renaud and the new Renaud (as just "Renaud") and the Renaud Trio/Sextet/All Stars (as "Henri Renaud... title?). The Cameron was listed, too, with a shortened title... I'll update the list tomorrow, done with my presentation at University and some more time at hand again for the moment... phew!

six trio dates: Vogue Piano Collection Volume 1: Erroll Garner, Arnold Ross, Gerald Wiggins Vogue Piano Collection Volume 2: Al Haig, Jimmy Jones, George Wallington Good stuff! the other two compilations by more than one leader: Vogue Saxophone Collection: Lars Gullin, Lee Konitz, Hans Koller 54 Sessions: Roy Hanyes, René Thomas, Frank Foster

This is on the way to me as we speak. No connection with Bert and Green, but his (Mellé's) two OJCs are up again in the current Concord sale, and they're mighty fine!

I like Green, who was reputed to be (and certainly sounds like) a genius instrumentalist as well as a very tasty player, but I don't think he had as much saxophone conception going as Bert and Dennis did. Also, a certain rounded-off shapeliness of phrasing seems to come so readily to Green (as did just about everything else on the trombone) that I feel that he often rested content at that admitttedly elegant level, while for Bert and Dennis it was more like ever onward. BTW, Green fans should look for the Fresh Sound reissue (on a single CD) of his two (or two of his, don't recall which it is) ABC-Paramount albums, a small group date with Jimmy Raney and a big band album with John Carisi charts, including "Springsville," which features Green and is treated as a kind of walking ballad. The big band date is not as adventurous as one might wish -- the goal seems to have been to produce a musically superior version of Les Elgart -- but within those limits the playing and writing are very good. Thanks, that makes sense yes... that ease of Green's though can be very tasty indeed! I have the date with Raney (and McKenna) on another spanish label (Jazz Beat), paired there with the 10 inch album "Urbie Green and His Band" (which also came out in German Membran's "Original Long Play Albums" series, paired with another 10 incher by Vic Dickenson, those were already paired on a 12 inch LP). That's a fine disc, too! The 10 incher has Ruby Braff, Med Flory, Frank Wess, Sir Charles Thompson, Freddie Green, Aaron Bell and Bobby Donaldson. The disc is filled out by three Vinnie Burke All Stars cuts with Green and Jimmy Raney (with Costa/Burke/Morello and Al Cohn, the remaining material was just the trio, I assume). It's part of the "Crosstown" 2CD package, as are Bert's two other Savoys. Mighty fine stuff! I think the date with Monterose is spread over "Encore" and the third (besides "Musician of the Year") album, so getting that package is good anyway, to have it all in one place. Wow, thanks a lot! I somehow missed this compilation. Yeah, it's from our Andorran friends once again but since Savoy still can't be bothered to release their stuff in complete form (the Montage compilation contained the rest of the Crosstown material and some other tracks from various artists that I've been waiting for them to issue on CD as well). So the sound quality of the Fresh Sound set is good then? Sounds fresh Seriously, I've never been bothered by the sounds, it's not great (I'm no audiophile, though, don't forget that!) but it's good enough. The first album ("Musician of the Year") works with trombone overdubs (very nicely arranged stuff) and that might have had a bit of an influence on sound anyway, I can imagine. Anyway, I just popped in the disc, background playing while working (and posting, and downloading... multi-tasking as I do too often) and it definitely sounds ok to me.

Here's my list from another (Jazz in Paris) thread: Clifford Brown - The Complete Paris Sessions Vol. 1 Clifford Brown - The Complete Paris Sessions Vol. 2 Clifford Brown - The Complete Paris Sessions Vol. 3 Don Byas - With Mary Lou Williams Trio / With Beryl Booker Trio Jay Cameron... (?) Roy Eldridge & his Little Jazz Vol. 1 Roy Eldridge & his Little Jazz Vol. 2 Dizzy Gillespie - Plays in Paris Dizzy Gillespie - Pleyel 49 Dizzy Gillespie - Pleyel 53 Lionel Hampton & his All Stars (*) Coleman Hawkins / Jonny Hodges - the Vogue Sessions André Hodeir - The Vogue Sessions Bobby Jaspar & Henri Renaud Bobby Jaspar & his Modern Jazz Bobby Jaspar / David Amram Duke Jordan - New York / Bud Powell - Paris Thelonious Monk - Solo 1954 Gerry Mulligan - Pleyel Concert Vol. 1 Gerry Mulligan - Pleyel Concert Vol. 2 Oscar Pettiford - Sextet Jimmy Raney - Visits Paris Vol. 1 Jimmy Raney - Visits Paris Vol. 2 Henri Renaud... (title?) Zoot Sims - Quartet & Sextet Martial Solal - Complete Vogue Vol. 1 Martial Solal - Complete Vogue Vol. 2 Martial Solal - Complete Vogue Vol. 3 Lucky Thompson - Complete Vogue Vol. 1 Lucky Thompson - Complete Vogue Vol. 2 Barney Wilen - Tilt Mary Lou Williams - London Sessions (title?) Various - The Saxophone Collection Various - The Piano Collection Vol. 1 Various - The Piano Collection Vol. 2 Various - The 1954 Paris Sessions It's not complete anylonger, the latest batch (Solal Vol. 4, Bechet/Solal, Cohn/Renaud, Renaud, Williams, Bebop in Paris Vol. 1/2, what else?) is not listed, and some titles aren't given correctly. Also there was a box collecting the four Solals, and there was that Big Bill Broonzy box. Please someone else take this list and make it nice and complete, I don't have the time at hand! The info for all those later releases are in another thread, brownie posted it, do a search for "Nelson Williams" and "brownie" and I'm sure you can find it all!

When has Volume 3 of "L'intégrale" come out? I think I've seen it mentioned somewhere before but wasn't aware it was actually available! Vols. 1 & 2 are great! And I second the for the Ayler & Monk discs - but that then is just about all the Gaslini I have... ah no, there's an Italian Instabile disc with him playing (and at least some of the music his, too). Here's the jazz discography from his homepage: http://www.giorgiogaslini.it/dischi.htm I see the disc with IIO is "Skies of Europe" (ECM), one of their best! And I also have the Jelly Roll hommage, good fun, but nothing too earth-shaking. Somehow I do remember a previous discussion of Gaslini (possibly via a Lacy discussion about the material on "L'intégrale" Vol. 2? It's not in the Black Saint/Soul Note recommendations thread, and other than that my search didn't bring any other possible hits...

took me two days to realize how offensive i could have taken THAT (if i weren't swiss in a broad sense of the word as well) oh well, you see, I'm all for free speech and sometimes for tasteless remarks and jokes, too...

now for the heck of it, get in line, couw!

Oh, and I do dimly remember some very enlightening thread about Ware... I first thought it might be the one about the Jenkins/Jordan/Timmons album, but that's not what I meant. I first thought it was a thread actually dedicated to Ware, but there seems to be none other that this new one. If anyone also remembers and has an idea how to find that older discussion, please do post a link to it here! It was that older discussion that together with the new CDs woke up interest for Ware again with me.

It took me quite a while to really dig Wilbur Ware... for a long time, I wondered what the fuss was about... but now I think I get it! Thanks to this other thread I got the "Jenkins/Jordan/Timmons" album (with Ware & Dannie Richmond), and then somewhen in summer I finally picked up Ware's own Riverside album, as well as Johnny Griffin's "Sextet" and "Way Out" (part of my Fantasy/Concord panick acquisitions) and love all four of these albums right away! So it got time to revise my judgement of Ware... or rather just my perception of him had already changed, and I suddenly started to hear him. He's great also on Rollin's Village Vanguard dates, with which I've been familiar for a loooong time (I think Vol. 1 of the old CDs was among the first 25 or 50 jazz CDs I had, in the mid 90s), but even there I just found Ware another good bass player (think: next to Chambers, Watkins, Mingus, Hinton, Marshall, Duvivier, Heath, and all the other great ones that were active around that time). Now if I hear him on "Softly As in a Morning Sunrise", it gives me the chills! (But it *is* hard to gain attention next to Rollins, who's simply stunning on all of that music!)

Happy Birthday, David! :party:

It's actually quite a bit newer. The Best Of came out in 1989, and Chet Baker Sings in 1998. Thus I suppose the latter has better remastering. Hm, was there an older CD of that, too? Not that it matters much, but I thought I'd seen older CDs or CDs from roughly the same time of "Chet Baker Sings"... anyway, it seems I took the wrong way there, but it's BN's in this case (as in others... reissuing the same stuff over and over again, while much of their catalogue is still hard to find or goes OOP again too soon) rather stupid reissue policy that lead me there...

Just one last post here - I basically agree with what you say, Chris. The language thing though still is there. At least for me it is. I don't speak *any* english in real life, unless on pretty rare occasions (probably 10 minutes per month) - and that does make a big difference. I am not at home at all in english, I may be more or less fluent, but my vocabulary is limited and my grasp of the language is far from perfect. That leads to unease if difficult things are to be discussed (such as all this stuff about this board). You can't just ignore that, it's not a hard fact or anything, but it's how I feel about it and you dan't discuss that away. Anyway, my wish would just be for more positive contributions, more stories and good-spirited stuff, and less of the "xx is a prick" things that have been around a bit too often, in my (and couw's, and a couple of others') opinion. That's all for now.

Dan, normalizing function isn't recommended... if you want to correct the volume, do via WAV-files. I think normalizing the files freaks up the quality somehow (don't ask me to explain, I've had more knowledgeable guys explain that to me, and I believe them...) I had an older version of Nero (4, I think) that worked great, with FLAC and everything, but when I got the computer set up anew, that version (and version 5 also) wouldn't recognize my drive/burner, so I had the free version of Nero 7 and that's when all the problems began...

Burrn is free, it's small, it's simple, it decodes FLAC and MP3 by its own (Nero can do that, too, if you're lucky enough to find the right codec... I wasn't, with the latest version I had, but that screwed up 1 of 4 or 5 CDRs in the end, so it was time to move on). You can find it here: http://www.burrrn.net/ There's also ImgBurn for DVDs (from the DVD Decrypter family of programmes): http://www.imgburn.com/ Both highly recommended! The only thing Nero would do and Burrrn won't is burn 81 or 82 minute CDRs (onto normal blanks, that is).

So WTF does this have to do with Dan's Nero software problems? Eh? c'mon, you can do better than that! I recommend Burrrn anyway, burning is much easier ever since I deleted Nero off my HD!

By the way, I just bought a pair of new jeans... size is 33 (waist) & 36 (leg) - just in case that helps you identifying me

I have no kinds of disorders, neither seasonal nor others, I assure you. The frustrations of some posters seem to just sort of take over the board in spirit, more and more, and "good ole bitter Chris" is part of those posters in our perception. Couw was not out of line, as he's not reacting to this particular post of Chris', not even to Chris alone, but to a general development that is to our utmost dislike. Now you can say "take it or leave it", but maybe it's still worth a thought why more and more of the europeans are leaving (and add Chaney to that crowd, too, please). Anyway, in my opinion it is decisively *not* about free speech vs. civility. This is not a necessary opposition, maybe not even a valid one, putting it up so generally. I am very much for free discourse about anything anyone wants to talk about, but you can still chose to do that in a civilised manner and tone (if you can't maybe that's is your own issue then... might be a good idea to see a shrink then, or take some deep breaths and relax and play some stoopid music...) And don't get me wrong, I have been grateful and have said thanks also on various occasions where Chris shared insights, stories etc from his professional involvement with music. I'm a sucker for all of that, being way too young (born 1979 in case it matters - I think my b-day is still in my profile anyway), but I'm getting so tired of these on-going derailed threads where one of the boards semi-gods boosts and inflates his ego, with many clapping and cheering bystanders... (ooh, sure, some cheerleaders would be nice, too!)

It's part of the "Crosstown" 2CD package, as are Bert's two other Savoys. Mighty fine stuff! I think the date with Monterose is spread over "Encore" and the third (besides "Musician of the Year") album, so getting that package is good anyway, to have it all in one place. Larry, how about Urbie Green, wouldn't he fit in there with Dennis & Bert, too?

Just dropping in shortly, not much time for the stoopid internet today... I generally agree with couw, I fully agree. It's that ego-driven stuff that makes the board such a drag again and again (that has been going on for months, I guess for approximately 2 years even, it just gets worse, it's a slow development). It's not about free speech, your highest deity on the other side of the pond (yup yup, I won't make any political statements here now, but there'd be plenty when even the supreme court went in a totally wrong direction to "guarantee" - which I guess means "safe" - what they/some of you here think "free speech" is...) - anyway, if we're all effin grown-ups, as some think, please also revert to old-fashioned virtues like decency and politeness now and then, not just to your goddam free speech! It gets so pathetic every once in a while! As for "couw" being a phantom, it's just plain ridiculous what you state there, Chris. Couw used to have a profile with much more info before Allen Lowe started trolling him and other displeasant things about the board got worse. Couw is no phantom, many of us know his name (you know it, too, it has been posted in this very thread also), many know where he lives, what he does, how many kids he has etc. etc. By the way, just to prevent you from attacking me as a phantom: the very same applies to me. I went "anonymous" after the dreadful che thing (where most yanks thought it was just about "free speech", too, I assume? at least a little support from overseas took a looooooooong time coming, I can assure you, and it was painful). If you want to get to know us, interact with us, too, not just with yourself, the other similarly hyped-up semi-Gods of this board, or your own ego... you can talk to us normal useless, unknowing ignorant posters, too, if you want, it's quite easy in fact, even we have found out how to do it. (Yes, free speech and class system, partly self-imposed by other awe-struck dumbos like me, that seems to be no opposition then... almost british, I presume... good anglo-saxon traditions living on...) So now then, fire away, drive us all away by your rude (no, not witty very often, alas, and not funny at all) behaviour and make the board an all american ego display if you like... A last note: too bad it's just you who posted in here... might get a worng impression, you could even stylize yourself to some kind of martyr, but let me assure you, you're in pretty good company in your ego-country... there are others there and I guess everyone knows whom I'm talking of, more or less... doesn't matter anyway if no one sees it but a few of us old-fashioned retarted yurpeeans who couldn't swim well enough to make it over the pond. Now fire away - language I've used may be a bit too harsh here and there (remember, english is a foreign language to some of us! We could gladly continue in German if you'd prefer - and no, I'm no nazi, I'm swiss, I just live from stolen gold that my grandfather... etc) - anyway I do think I generally managed to express what are actually my thoughts on this point.