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Thanks for sorting out things, Big Al - appreciated!

played some oldish rattish stuff a few minutes ago, very nice one: The first album has Roscoe, Dave Burrell, Silva and Cyrille, plus Shepp on one track, the second spotlights Moncur as the lone horn, in front of Beb Guerin and two unknown (to me, that is) musicians, Fernando Martins (p) and Nelson Serra de Castro (d). Both were recorded in fall 1969 in Paris for BYG.

ah, found the previous thread: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=38586

"misssing" that is: compared to earlier CD reissues of that previous 4CD box (which had one cut not on any of the single CDs if memory serves me right?), not compared to the original albums, of course - the inclusion of the original albums and nothing else more is the point of this reissue series.

Which in my opinion is a loss for "Getz/Gilberto #2" where several instrumental tracks (by the excellent band with Gary Burton if I remember correctly) were added to the original album tracks. What else is missing? "Jazz Samba Encore" had one alternate (or two? no big loss I guess), "Jazz Samba" none, the old CD of "Getz/Almeida" had I think one bonus track (not an alternate).

I'll bet he bought in bulk off of zweitausendeins, who had this set for about 30 euros, back in the day ! yup, that's how I got it... crazy that was, holy holy! but that was the small ("cube" they call it, I think) version, with a scaled down booklet and mini type for the information, and none of the liners, just bare-bones, discography, tracklist and all in b/w, even the miniature pics of the original albums... not that I cared much back then, as I was still unfamiliar with most of Pepper's work, but now, as I grew to love his music, I'd of course prefer having the big box with large thick book and all...

oh, and Niko - a good example for guys who didn't get along outside of music: Gerry Mulligan and Chet Baker - but on stage or in the studio, at least for the short period the original Mulligan quartet lasted, they got along great! I guess that's not very uncommon, though it does strike me as weird, too, that guys who can't stand each other would play together for a long time... but then in the end playing music is also a way of making a living, and we all had jobs were we had to stand pricks of all kinds and act as if we got along at least sort of ok with them...

Yes, Kronberg might indeed be the best of Mangelsdorff's sax playing sidemen! Lauer never quite struck me as that great a player, either (his band with Michel Godard though is of course interesting, if only from the instrumentation and Godard's freakish tuba playing!), same for Sauer - he's one of those tough, hard-edged Coltrane followers, and there are millions of those, so to stand out really would be difficult anyway... his recent duo partnership with young pianist Michael Wollny though seems to be rather nice.

how about these sessions now compiled on a Fresh Sound CD: Scott's Fling (RCA Victor LJM 1022) Jimmy Nottingham (tp) Billy Byers (tb) Eddie Wasserman (ts) Danny Bank (bar) Milt Hinton (b) Osie Johnson (d) New York, December 18, 1954, January 7 & 12, 1955 Abstraction No. 1 Autumn Nocturne But Not for Me Finger Poppin' Blues Forty-Second Street Glad to Be Unhappy Let my Fingers Go! Lucky to Be Me Love is Here to Stay Requiem for "Lips" Sunday Scene Three Short Dances for Solo Clarinet Tony Scott Septet (RCA EPA 596) Jimmy Nottingham (tp) Kai Winding (tb) Tony Scott (cl) Eddie Wasserman (ts) Danny Bank (bar) Milt Hinton (b) Osie Johnson (d) New York, December 28, 1954 E4VB5492 Late Show E4VB5493 Ridin' High E4VB5494 The Blue Room E4VB5495 Vendome E4VB5496 Lullaby of Birdland Tony Scott (Vic EPA 705) same, Billy Byers (tb) replaces Kai Winding New York, December, 1954 Body and Soul Friday the Thirteenth My Melancholy Baby Squaw with no Reservation Just playing this now for the first time, and before that I played "Sung Heroes" again. Some very good stuff on the latter, but also the septet sessions (reissued as "Fingerpoppin'", FSR-CD 415, 2006) contain some very nice music, I find. Some that immediately makes one listen, quite surprising and fresh, I find. Btw, the Tony Scott page (tonyscott.it) seems to be down, I wanted to check out the disco there.

That and "Tensions" or "One! Tension" or whatever was its original title are the best, in my opinion. The quintet was a great BAND, lots of great things going on, lots of earthy grooves, singing solos, free-ish stuff etc. The later music is different, less... fun? Less playful? Well, I guess not really, but it has a different vibe to it. It's not of lesser quality or anything, it's just that I don't connect to it so easily. Somewhere halfway is the Live in Tokyo/Live at Dug's or whatever that one's really called, that's a quartet album (quintet minus Kronberg, leaving Heinz Sauer on saxes) and it gets freeer (and less focused), compared to the earlier quintet albums. Anyway, except for United Jazz + Rock Ensemble, almost anything Mangelsdorff did is worth listening, in my opinion, and I'll be very happy to replace my old burns of the old "Three Originals" sets with these new boxes (I only had the trio one of the three originals like that, never had the other one, so most of this stuff is still new to me!)

yeh, it keeps raining and then it stops again and then it rains again etc... I'm quite sure this is the beginning of the end...

Yes indeed - those spoilt americans! I considered 13$ from True Blue a steal for years, before I got internet and noticed they were rather expensive...

tomorrow never dies...

ah well, Zurich is still standing... but maybe it will take another few minutes for us to get swallowed by that black hole or what? (black hole sun? flash from the past...) seems the CERN was involved in the development/invention of the WWW? didn't know that - funny discussions going on on newspaper pages, for instance here (in german): http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/wissen/technik...38647#kommentar

some info about Bataille (not even the wiki is for the faint-hearted... take this as a warning): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Story_of_the_Eye

Sade? Bataille's "Histoire de l'oeil"?

interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banned_books

Allen Lowe's forthcoming film's book?

Also what about William Carlos Williams? Allen Ginsberg's "Howl"?

Carl Van Vechten's "Nigger Heaven"?

Got the Dig Ben box yesterday (bought it rather cheaply from some amazon marketplace vendor) - will take me a while to take it in, even more so as I bought some more montmartre webster from dan gould's sale (the black lions, one of the two discs combining those three lps, one of which I own and love - the second of those (Jan 31, 1965 recordings, I think) I have on order as well, and the other Black Lion is from later in 1965 - all with Drew, NHOP and Alex Riel, one of the tightest backing bands Ben had in his later years, and a mighty swinging one! Me loves some late Ben! Those Holland sessions on that Blue Note 2CD set are great, too! I don't care if it's the best Ben or if it's "great" music at all, I just love that grand playing style of Webster's, on fast romps (Perdido, Sunday, stuff like that) as well as his glorious ripe ballad style. Ben to me is like an old single malt that gets better and better as the years pass by.

My copy was waiting for me when I got home last night - looks tasty!

And it all could have been fit onto three 3-CD sets, 9 CD's total, rather than two 5CD sets and two 2CD sets, 14 CD's total. Feels a little exploitative in that sense, and a change from the other MPS sets I think. No, they're being sold very cheaply (the 4CD sets by George Duke and Herbolzheimer cost around 50$ here, which is about half the prize such 4CD sets usually cost, so their decision not to fill up the CDs doesn't bother me the least! Thanks a lot for filling in the details, I was posting from work and didn't have time to google it all up! The two big ones look great, the live is on its way, and it's only a question of time until the solo one will be on order, too! As Paul Secor said, a good one indeed! This is one of the few of these MPS batches from some years back that remain available, alas...

the live set is: Albert Live in Montreux and Trilogue - Live the solo is: Trombirds, Solo, Tromboneliness can't recognize all the albums of the two larger sets.

In time for the 80th birthday of Albert Mangelsdorff (Sept 5, 1928 - July 25, 2005), Universal is delivering the goods again. If their other MPS boxes (George Duke, Art Van Damme etc) are an indication, these should be nice reissues! Here are some infos: http://www.jazzecho.de/imposante_cdedition...8.08_140046.jsp The main thing in short: Two 5CD sets, two 2CD sets, 15 albums alltogether, remastered, with original artwork and liners. Albums included: Zo-Ko-Ma (finally!), Never Let It End, The Wide Point, A Jazz Tune I Hope, Trilogue - Live! etc. As of this writing, I have the 2CD Live set on order, will report once I get it! Covers & tracklists (all taken from jazzecho.de): Albert Mangelsdorff - Mangelsdorff Originals Vol. 1 (CD) artist: Attila Zoller, Colin Wilkie, Albert Mangelsdorff Quartet, Albert Mangelsdorff, Albert Mangelsdorff Quintett 2008 MPS-Records | CD 060251779747 CD 1 [1.] Zores Mores 5:42 [2.] Feeling-in And Filling-in In Villingen 4:10 [3.] Ach! Tavia / Skertzo / Alicia's Lullaby 6:26 [4.] At Twighlite 5:54 [5.] Struwwelpeter 4:35 [6.] Alat's Mood 4:50 [7.] Freeline Fräulein 4:41 [8.] Danke For The Memory 4:01 [9.] Rumpelstilzchen 4:33 CD 2 [1.] Icy Acres 4:10 [2.] Fourth Flight 7:04 [3.] Snowy Sunday 7:01 [4.] Willow And Rue 4:23 [5.] Lament 3:29 [6.] Ich armes Maidlein klag mich sehr 6:42 [7.] Sweet Primroses 5:11 CD 3 [1.] Wide Open 3:48 [2.] Never Let It End 9:50 [3.] Certain Beauty 9:18 [4.] 13th Color 6:56 [5.] Open Mind 4:22 [6.] Roitz And Spring 7:16 [7.] Nachwort 1:56 CD 4 [1.] Trombone Suit 9:35 [2.] Mother Someplace 7:23 [3.] Uli's Dance 4:41 [4.] Ice-Nine 9:51 [5.] A Certain Beauty 9:23 CD 5 [1.] Wobbling Notes And Fluted Crackle 14:18 [2.] Grive Musicienne 5:42 [3.] Birds Of Underground 11:37 [4.] Xenobiosis 11:42 Albert Mangelsdorff - Mangelsdorff Originals Vol. 2 (CD) artist: Albert Mangelsdorff, Joachim Kühn, Gunter Hampel, Pierre Favre, Mumps, Albert Mangelsdorff Trio 2008 MPS-Records | CD 060251779753 CD 1 [1.] The Up And Down Man 7:23 [2.] Mayday Hymn 5:37 [3.] Oh Horn! 6:10 [4.] I Mo' Take You To My Hospital And Cut Your Liver Out 7:11 [5.] Mood Indigo 4:50 [6.] The Wide Point 6:32 [7.] For Peter 2:08 CD 2 [1.] Rainbow Road 4:13 [2.] Ant Steps On An Elephant's Toe 6:08 [3.] Take Your Hit Kit 4:38 [4.] Schwwweeet: My New Friend (No. 294), Freedom Of The Universe (No. 284), Kisses (No. 291), Hot (No. 293) 10:25 [5.] Fuga mit Orgelpunkt von Schnee 5:01 [6.] The Barriers On The Way To You 2:44 [7.] In A Sentimental Mood 4:54 [8.] Supraconductivity 2:25 [9.] Medieval Percussion Song 4:09 [10.] Ringelvier 3:56 CD 3 [1.] A Matter Of Taste 8:33 [2.] Old Love Never Rusts 4:26 [3.] Amber / Electric Waltz 7:12 [4.] Sparrow Knows 5:53 [5.] The Strange Tale Of Mr. Misster 4:24 [6.] But The Accordion Stays 9:19 CD 4 [1.] Wart G'schwind 8:55 [2.] Once We're Here 2:18 [3.] A Jazz Tune I Hope 7:59 [4.] Kommentar zu "Hamburger Idylle" 2:52 [5.] Lapwing 8:16 [6.] Goma 1:11 [7.] Street Of Loneliness 4:55 [8.] Three Card Molly 8:29 CD 5 [1.] Hüpf Thema 8:31 [2.] Des'sch Too Much 6:23 [3.] Otherwise 6:58 [4.] Loose, Moose, Blues 14:54 [5.] Give Me Some Skin 7:05 Albert Mangelsdorff - Mangelsdorff Live (CD) artist: Albert Mangelsdorff 2008 MPS-Records | CD 060251779742 CD 1 [1.] Trilogue 6:02 [2.] Zores Mores 8:43 [3.] Foreign Fun 7:53 [4.] Accidental Meeting 9:38 [5.] Ant Steps On An Elephant's Toe 9:49 CD 2 [1.] Dear Mr. Palmer 16:02 [2.] Mood Azur 6:08 [3.] Stay On The Carpet 6:10 [4.] Rip Off 16:35 Albert Mangelsdorff - Mangelsdorff Solo (CD) artist: Albert Mangelsdorff 2008 MPS-Records | CD 060251779743 CD 1 [1.] Blues Of A Cellar Lark 11:03 [2.] Trombirds 3:40 [3.] Yellow Hammer 4:07 [4.] Introducing Marc Suetterlyn 3:38 [5.] Espontaneo 12:04 [6.] Sing A Simple Song For Change 3:34 [7.] Do Your Own Thing 8:55 [8.] Tromboneliness 6:25 [9.] Creole Love Call 5:42 [10.] Bonn 7:22 CD 2 [1.] Questions To Come 2:44 [2.] Marc Suetterlyn's Boogie 3:22 [3.] Für Peter 5:41 [4.] Brief Inventions 3:02 [5.] Sit And Think 0:53 [6.] Responsory 5:14 [7.] Für G.K. 1:07 [8.] Föhnhammer 1:58 [9.] Nexus 5:08 [10.] Der alte Dreiviertel 4:51 [11.] Lost And Found 0:56 [12.] Rooty Toot 7:24 [13.] Brief Impressions Of Brighton 2:43 [14.] What Did The Bird Say? 1:34 [15.] Bone Blues 5:17 [16.] J.C. Was Here 1:32 [17.] Give Me Some Skin 1:04