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I agree, and yet it seems with this series you take the good with the bad: for every vintage (Terry Gibbs) there's another re-issue of another Coltrane album. I'll never understand it either, and since I can't really do anything about it, just keep buying the ones that interest me in hopes that the record company gets the message (put out more stuff that hasn't been issued previously, quit bombarding us with endless Coltrane repackages!) Well, I certainly agree with you, but almost all record companies, even jazz oriented ones, still pitch to the middle. Despite all the many reissues, Coltrane, Monk and Miles Davis must continue to outsell all the obscure artists that are on their first go around. If they really aimed at the Mosaic niche for instance, most would go under. Frustrating I know. I agree, and yet it seems with this series you take the good with the bad: for every vintage (Terry Gibbs) there's another re-issue of another Coltrane album. I'll never understand it either, and since I can't really do anything about it, just keep buying the ones that interest me in hopes that the record company gets the message (put out more stuff that hasn't been issued previously, quit bombarding us with endless Coltrane repackages!) Well, I certainly agree with you, but almost all record companies, even jazz oriented ones, still pitch to the middle. Despite all the many reissues, Coltrane, Monk and Miles Davis must continue to outsell all the obscure artists that are on their first go around. If they really aimed at the Mosaic niche for instance, most would go under. Frustrating I know. I also agree. I think the last major undertaking of getting lesser known items out in the catalogue died with the Verve Elite Editions. Even the LPR series (which also seems dead) yielded quite a few items that hadn't been issued on cd too, but the Originals series clearly seems to be a re-packaging of items that have already been reissued with an unissed item tossed in here and there; a real disappointment Well, of course you're right (and Lon too, in the quote below) - but it's so frustrating with Verve, there'd be so many good things and often the only way to get them would be order from Japan or buy Spanish/Andorran crap - that's a sorry state of affairs! Flurin, I would wager the Ascension has both takes on it; the version in the box set (Volume 3) certainly does. I know that we'll keep seeing Trane and Miles etc. over and over. They are the only sure things the labels have. And I must say, I like having the "lp facimile" aspect of these reissues (because I've had the albums) and the sound is the best yet. That's interesting, Lon - and quite a departure (though they can explain it by the fact that both editions have seen original release by mistake... for the purists though there ought to be two identical discs with no information which version is on it... )

I'll be interested in the Getz and maybe the Blakey and Ella. Reading the above I got the impression the Blakey would have Lee and Lucky on the same date... that would have been weird... too bad these silly LP reproductions don't complete sessions! And then there's hope for Gato's Chapter 3, I have Chapters 1 & 2 (in the great "Latino America" 2CD package with some fine bonus material), and Chapter 4 is out already in the Originals series. The Coltranes will be silly, too... only one take of Ascension on the CD of the same name, and the great live track (as well as one or two studio bonus tracks) omitted of "Coltrane Quartet Plays..." (which is a great album!). "New Thing at Newport" is ok for the Shepp portion of it, but the Coltrane portion has just been repackaged together with his 1963 concert on this disc: That disc has an additional title from (I think) the 1965 concert, previously unreleased (I think) and that title will of course again not be on the upcoming "Originals" reissue... Why the hell, with the demise of CD sales and their constant lamentos, why the hell don't they reissue stuff that makes sense and hasn't been reissued seven times before? Those Impulse Master digipack reissues from the late 90s are great, with nice booklets, additional titles and all - no need to replace them at all!

Ubu, did you go ahead and order it from amazon.fr? If not, where? I like Grappelli, but I want it because I'm a hopeless fanatic about that series! greg mo Yes, but as a European (geographically spoken only... politically Switzerland is, well... somewhere remote up in the mountains, I guess), I often order there, it's a neighbouring country and their prizes often seem better than on amazon.de (which doesn't sell "Nearness of You" either, btw). And yes, I'm crazy about this series, too - I have all the single discs (minus some that I have as part of box-sets or in other, better editions, i.e. the Pres, the Roach and "Ascenseur pour l'echafaud"), and the three previous "hors série" sets. I could not afford the four boxes when they were around cheap, alas... and I have none of the compilations (catalogue plus cd sampler, cd/remix + dvd package, plus belles chansons) that mostly re-packaged previously available material.

well, I was posting under the assumption that Aric just mixed things up or forgot... surely he knows this concert, as it includes some of the very best recordings ever made by Mobley!

strings? well, i guess the harp has strings, but also chambers' bass... grant green's guitar was stringed, too on "workout" - so yes or no, depending what you mean by "strings" (or wait, was hank wearing a str... well, never mind...)

"Morning Song" is very good! I got a copy two weeks ago and gave it three spins in a row! Good arrangements, very fine playing by Menza, and an interesting rhythm section with Fritz Pauer and Pierre Favre (who can rarely be heard in such straight contexts). There's also this one, the only other Menza I have, pretty good as I remember: http://www.jhmrecords.ch/de/katalog/index_a.php

Chuck, no chance in trying and convince Mr. Weston of a release of those 1978 recordings today?

Mr.Houn and his very difficult to find music -at last these three italian recordings- need to be more widely known in my opinion. A Select with his Soul Notes and hopefully many unpublished music should be a dream for me. He is heavy on some political issue maybe not anybody care about, but he's an awesome performer, arranger and composer (in the spirit of Mingus and Ellington). Sadly he's ill in these days. I strongly wish he will be better since he's a real artist. Best wishes mr.Houn. Keep on fighting. I don't know Fred Houn, but two Soul Note releases are available here: http://www.camoriginalsoundtracks.com/site...p;idartist=8027

I've had mine on order for months now! Got a shipping notification a few days ago, hope to have it waiting for me at home now, too!

finally... #1 - Sounds like Tristano? Very nice, how with this quite rigid rhythmic conception it swings like hell! Very nice piano solo, including some dissonant stuff... trombone, hm, I don't think I know of any Tristano date with trombone - oh wait, is that Eddie Bert and this is from Ronnie Ball's great Savoy album? So that would be Ted Brown, not Warne, yeah, sounds a bit rougher and isn't that... how do you call that, nuanced? Straigher rhythmic conception (more like Konitz than Marsh I think)? Great one! #2 - Wow! I like this a lot, that strumming bass rhythm opens up a whole wide area and the horns interweaving lines, very nice, particularly the alto! (The tenor in the right channel also gets an almost alto-like sound, or is it an alto as well?) No idea who this could be though I guess the bassists' sound should give it away... he does sound familiar, but I can't pin it down. And then slowly the groove tightens and there's a fixed meter... very well done! And again the alto, nice sinewy lines, good sound, not of the fat kind I often love, but not thin either, rounded and with a bit of acid. And then it all breaks up again... great track! #3 - A modern adaption of Tristano here? Sort of... the trumpet has a very nice sound, alto is good as well, and it's nice to have guitar (instead of piano). Good to hear short and concise solos, also not just the horns but a bass-solo in between, nice touches. #4 - Groovy opening... but then not really to my liking. Though in the end the guitar player might be someone I usually like of course and I could be embarassed. #5 - Great sound on trumpet! Interesting arrangement with harp and strings. No clue who the trumpet player could be though... #6 - More boppish stuff, organ and solid tenor. Good tenor, less sure about the guitar... #7 - Derek Bailey! Ain't he great! Even when doing that free stuff (he usually did!) he has that wonderful hollow body sound on his guitar! I love his solo music, it's some of the most beautiful music I've encountered so far, and I mean beautiful totally conventional here. #8 - What's this again, Blue'n'Boogie? Repeating... more trombone, nice! Very good one! Is this from the Jay Jay/Stitt date? Yeah, I guess so - great piano solo (John Lewis then?). Great track! And quite a change of pace after Derek! #9 - Gee, what's this? The tune sounds familiar, but I'm clueless - great drumming! #10 - More cool guitar, strings again, nice how it builds, modulates, sort of a minimalist arrangement. Lovely bass entrance! #11 - Big band music, very fine solos by trumpet, trombone and then good tenor, and nice drumming all the time, driving the band along. Ah, there comes some baritone, too, good! #12 - Great drum intro! Alto has a lovely sweet sound. Interesting one! Is it just one drummer or are there two? The stereo spread is a bit weird... is this a World Saxophone Quartet thing with a drummer added? The timbres the saxes create are great! Tenor goes apeshit but the ensemble keeps it rooted with the drums booting along.

Yes, true! I first bought "Someday My Prince Will Come" after all the boxes were out and it was quite clear that the Mobley parts of it would never be on any box... marvellous album! And the material is great, too! (It's 6CDs of live and one of studio material btw, but I guess it would have all fit onto 5-6 CDs in a box-set).

Yeah, very good one! I got into Weston mainly via his great series of Universal France/Gitanes album from the late 80s and 90s (Volcano Blues, Saga, Spirits of the Ancestors, etc) and a few earlier ones (the CTI, the Dawn and the Monterey '66 album). Buying the Mosaic Select was quite a revelation! I love the two albums on disc 3, but this one is outstanding as well! And it's a pleasure to hear Griffin in such a cool setting!

Mobley has some stunning moments there (on Pfrancing I think? Or was it Oleo?), and the rhythm section really smokes! Also "Concierto de Aranquez" might be even better here than on "Sketches of Spain"! Plus I'm a total sucker for "Teo", that one just smokes, up to the end, and to me, it could go on for ten more minutes!

Yeah, it took me several years to get into 20s jazz and early Armstrong... I got the Columbia Hot Fives & Sevens box years ago, but only after several listens (with much time passing in between) I got to appreciate it and then later on actually enjoy it. In the meantime my listening had changed to include a lot of pre-war jazz (Condon and all those folks around him, Wild Bill Davison, Pee Wee Russell, etc, Lee Wiley, Teagarden etc) and that helped me to take the step back to the early stuff... and of course listening to Mosaics is always a big help and an eye and ear-opener to me - in this case the Bix/Tram/Tea, and then I found some of Bix' Masters of Jazz discs which mainly include Whiteman recordings - concentrating on the solo voice of one artist can make it easier to get into such music that seems strange and well, foreign (as in "the past is a foreign country... the did things differently there" or how that quote goes).

For international customers, smaller sets are much nicer to buy - orders under 100$ can be shipped surface and often slip by the customs. That includes sets of 3-5 discs only, alas (used to be up do 6CD sets, but not since their last prize raise). That may be part of the fast selling... but also generally, I'd be happy to see more 4CD and 5CD sets. Of course if they go for a big body of work, sets will be larger and I'll still buy them, but I love some of the smaller sets from earlier years (Thad Jones, Jones/Lewis, Sam Rivers, Illinois Jacquet, Byrd/Adams, Curtis Fuller - just a few that come to mind immediately).

A member here has used the cover of Idris Ackamoor's 2CD compilation "Music of Idris Ackamoor, 1971-2004" for a long time. I finally bought me a copy of it, outstanding music! http://www.emrecords.net/records/00077.html It contains tracks from the great albums he did with the Pyramids, as well as later recordings, and it includes a few unreleased things, as well as a great booklet with lots of photos and notes by Ackamoor himself. Very well-done. CDbaby has three discs of Ackamoor's available: http://cdbaby.com/found?allsearch=Idris+Ac...chsubmit=Search Anyone is familiar with any of those? And this label here is supposed to reissue the three albums by the Pyramids this year: http://www.locustmusic.com Anyone has any additional info on these upcoming reissues? there's also this one (out in bloggity sphere), seems it's not scheduled for reissue, probably this was just some kind of test pressing?

http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...st&p=123133 Maybe I could come over to your place and you'll play some early Kenny G for me? Or (get your ammo out) some of that kitschy PMG stuff... now that's a guy I never got into, although "Question and Answer" with Holland and Haynes is pretty good, and 80/81 has some fine moments, too... and of course the first album with Jaco... but that's about it, none of his "main" stuff does anything for me.

Why Coltrane is THE paradigm... no one would dare and make a fool of himself by stepping out and saying he pee on Love Supreme (ok, some might not dig the final two years, but hey, that's only a small portion they would say - though I'd say it's an essential portion that showed him developping and searching further beyond what he'd done before, and is also an indication that by 65/66 he was not content to just go on doing what he did from roughly 62-64/5). But someone once was bold enough to say he hates Miles... read on here, great thread (seriously): http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=7784

Braxton has a huge oeuvre - I guess everybody will find some stuff in there that s/he can't connect to... but I have a feeling he should be treated like a giant of contemporary music (not just jazz, music in general). Though how would I really know... Some of his stuff is just great fun to listen to (anything by his quartet with Crispell, for insance, or for a more recent example, the two volumes of duos with Andrew Cyrille on Intakt), but some can be rather hard to take in, such as his solo work (which is I guess "idiosyncratic"... for those inclined to think so, it will also contain ample "proof" that Mr. Braxton is technically inept as far as playing a saxophone goes...), and then there's stuff that most here (including me) just might never get around listening (his composed works for piano, to name an example). And yes, Mr. DB, I'll look into some early Kenny G. (but only if you invite me over and offer me a few beers along with your playing your early Kenny G. discs for me!)

Just got "Nearness of You" and gave it a first spin last night. Nice one, far from essential though... (but I think in my book Grappelli in general rates as "far from essential", so...)

Taylor a few years later really sounded good to me - like on those sessions from Europe (A Day in Copenhagen with Dexter/Slide Hampton from 1969 is a great example, just reissued), really hotter and more outgoing than in the 50s. I prefer PJJ on recordings from those years.

Happy Birthday! Sorry to be late, but I'll make up by spinning your disc again soon!

What about the Monk Riverside 2CD set? I never ever saw any K2 over here, so I have the Monk as part of the 15CD and that recent 2CD set (used to have the OJCCD as well). I must have missed that earlier discussion!

hm, I don't know... maybe Getz was just all crazy... it's frightening how he plays on those airchecks with Herman, considering his age!

Play some of his early stuff - the quartets with Haig and Silver on Roost for instance!