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Over the weekend, the Louis Prima portion of the Prima/Manone set, and disc 1 of the Dizzy (+ related Verve dates by him). Now: the great Wingy Manone portion of the Prima/Manone, almost done with the final disc, the booze version of "I've Got a Note" is indeed fun, he he

Digging into this one again... I played the Prima parts back when I got this (must have been a while after it was running low but it seems I didn't post anything about it back then). Anyway, very enjoyable music! The small groups with Pee Wee Russell are the best part of it, I think! Now I just finished disc 3 with the first Wingy (how is that pronounced anyway, as in "wing" or with a "j" as in "joe"?), and I took out the 1927-1934 Classics and I'm a bit puzzled, as there are some dates that aren't in the Mosaic - why is that so? I did read some of the notes in the booklet, but I may have overread it... Ah, I get it's the 1931 Vocalion ownership divide again? Too bad! The Mosaic is from 2002, shortly after that Universal opened their vaults for them...) The dates in question are: Joe "Wingy" Manone and his Club Royale Orchestra Wingy Manone (cnt,vcl), Wade Foster (cl), Bud Freeman (ts), Jack Gardner (p), Gene Krupa (d) Chicago, September 4, 1928 C-2292 Downright Disgusted C-2293 Fare Thee Well Wingy Manone (tp,vcl), Frank Teschmacher (cl), George Snurpus (ts), Art Hodes (p), Ray Biondi (g), Augie Schellange (d) Chicago, December 17, 1928 C-2682-B Trying to Stop My Crying C-2683 Isn't There a Little Love ? Then there are these two, done for Gennett: Barbecue Joe and his Hot Dogs Wingy Manone (tp,vcl), George Walters (cl), Joe Dunn (ts), Maynard Spencer (p), Dash Burkis (d) Richmond, Indiana, August 28, 1930 16949-B Tin Roof Blues (unissued) GS16950-C Shake That Thing GS16951 Tar Paper Stomp [Wingy's Stomp] 16952 Up the Country (unissued) Bob Price (tp-1), Ed Camden (tp-1), Miff Frink (tb), Orville Haynes (tu) added, unknown (bj) added. Richmond, Indiana, September 19, 1930 17058 Up the Country Blues GN17059-E Tin Roof Blues GN17060 Weary Blues (wm vcl) 17061 Big Butter and Egg Man (1) All four dates (minus the two unissued titles from the third, of course) are on Classics 774 (Wingy Manone and His Orchestra 1927-1934). (edited to add fourth date, sorry for my goof!)

Gheorge, you have to check out at least some later Thompson! For the fifties, I guess the best are the Paris dates (with Solal or Renaud), the Savoy albums (and one on Atlantic) with Milt Jackson, or the great material out on Impulse (and now pirated by Lonehill and/or Fresh Sound), two albums with trio/quintets on a CD, and another CD wtih two Oscar Pettiford albums featuring Lucky, Gigi Gryce and others in a slighly smaller than usual big band. For the sixties, there are "Lucky Strikes!", his two Tivoli albums (some with organ, though not the greatest organ playing you'll hear) out on a Fresh Sound twofer, or this new Uptown release. Thompson's sound changed a lot, and somehow - as niko observed - the soprano got harder and fuller in sound, and the tenor got lusher and softer, as the years passed. There's some mighty fine playing on both horns on the Uptown package! A little note on the Uptown: isn't it strange that there are several columns of "footnotes", but no numbers to link them in the text? Also the booklet of my set isn't fold straight. And the booklet is so big, it will eventually be damaged, no matter how careful you may get it out of the jewel case... some sloppy production in the finishing there, if you ask me... a pity, as this is such a great set, musically!

I started playing this again over the weekend, but didn't get any further than disc 1... the thing is, I always get side-tracked and want to hear the rest of Dizzy's output for Granz in those years (in between the first two albums on disc 1 of the Mosaic, he recorded a huge load of other great sessions). So I played discs 3-5 of the Granz Jam Sessions, the very fine Dizzy/Getz album, Afro, and then started with the big band sides from 1956/57... to be continued... (btw, I'm well aware I skipped the date with Benny Carter... but those four discs of Verve Carter sessions are something else I'll want to listen in full again!) Right now, I'm having disc one of the Prima/Manone disc - last time I played this I wasn't half as much into Condon, Russell, Teagarden, Freeman, Manone et. al. - having a ball now! (And as I type this Prima sings about having a ball with spaghetti... he he - must be catesta's fault! )

Why does everyone think the Roach/Brown/Rollins albums are so superior to the Roach/Brown/Land ones? Really beats me! I think "Study in Brown" is quite a bit better than the one they did under Rollins' name for Prestige, for instance!

Happy Birthday! :party:

He he, de par ma chandelle verte! Thanks everybody! Mike, sounds like a fun party you had there!

Thanks Aggie! I'm flattered! As for the photo, I hope it won't end up that bad... Thanks also to Holy Ghost (hey, "Ghosts" is my ringtone these day, he he....) and Free (time to play your CD again soon... still waiting for a new one )

Thanks Adrian! Just played disc 3 and now halfway into disc 4 of the Norman Granz Jam Session box - good stuff! And some coffee and several newspapers, just like I enjoy a Saturday afternoon...

Thanks Niko & David!

Thank you Dan & serioza! Joyeux anniversaire au Roi Ubu! The Swiss post offices are to be congratulated too for delivering the book in time for your birthday! It was not planned this way but I am bery glad they delivered the package on this day to be remembered! Enjoy being 30! This should be a glorious year! Eh bien, j'éspère que oui! Merci, Guy!

das heisst imfall gopferteckel! (aber schwiizertütsch schriibe gaht eh nöd... baaaaaseldiiitsch erscht rächt nöd, das verschaat ja kei sau.... he he he) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Thanks a lot, Lon & marcello! And kinuta, thanks to you as well! I enjoy your contributions in the on-going film discussions! Myself, I find it harder and harder to actually say much of intelligence about films, but I still try my best. As for "Woman in the Dunes", I missed it when it shortly made the regular theatres here, in a re-edition of some sort, but it's out on DVD, and it seems to be quite the masterpiece, so eventually I'll get me a copy of it...

Thank you Barak! Time for shower, coffee and newspapers now -

btw, Billf - The Limey by Steven Soderberg is a mighty fine film, starring Terence Stamp! Do check it out if you get a chance!

Thank you Bentsy! You know, I still have the Fargo 2CD set you sold me for such a good prize several years back... I got the Duke box in the meantime, but the notes and all in the 2CD set are too nice to give it away... Thank you to the limey brigade, too A generous bunch of guys there - good to have you around here! As for the movies, Bill, I caught "Les bas-fonds" last night (it's after Maxim Gorky's novel "Night Asylum" or whatever it's called in English). Not one of the best, but Gabin was great! No film today, I'm afraid, but maybe on Monday again ("La grande illusion", though I migth skip as I know it and have it on DVD, too). Also thanks to brownie, whose package with the St. Quentin jazz book reached me just in time - time to train my French a bit...

I played discs 1-4 of the Bud Shank set yesterday - lovely music, all of it interesting, and some parts of it very, very good! Looking forward a lot to playing disc 5 now, with Carmell Jones!

I think I'd go with "Freedom Now", but it beats me why "A Study in Brown" hasn't been mentioned. That one has Harold Land on tenor (later to be replaced by Rollins), and I think it's at least as great as was the Brown/Roach quintet with Rollins! Land's End always gives me the goosebumps! And there's "Cherokee" and "Sandu", too...

Bumping this up because of my comments in the "what mosaic are you enjoying right now"-thread... I played the Hawkins/Terry date again, and ok, it's nice enough... but Hawkins in 1962 in top form could still create those wonderful, driving, neverending, swinging and absolutely compelling/stringent* lines that make you gasp for air even before he himself has to take new breath... He does that on "Today and Now", for instance, and if he's in top form, he gets almost too much for me - in fact I sometimes don't listen to such recordings of his for a long time, because I just don't feel like wanting to deal with this kind of specific Hawkinsian energy... Anyway, on this particular album, Hawkins sounds out of breath and not that full of ideas, too... he plays short lines, takes long breaks, and whe enters again it's not like there's a big surprise or a genuine or attractive twist, instead it's just the next lick, it seems to me. *) I don't know the right translation, "zwingend" in German - what I mean is that when he's at his best, everything sounds like it just goes where it has to go - even though we don't know where else he could have gone in a given improvisation/solo, I get the impression that he took exactly the one choice that was right, so perfect do his creations seem. As for the other things contained, I think my other comments came across a bit too negatively... the Herb Ellis session (re-played those last night, too) are indeed nice, but nothing all that surprising in there (and Roy shows off a bit too much...). Buddy Tate is pretty good here though! And I think it's the best of the Buck Clayton albums that he takes part in, too. Will have to play the one with Moore/Rushing again though. The Marlowe Morris sides struck me as pretty lacklustre if not just boring. I said before that the Braff sides were very, very enjoyable - a stylist with his own sound and conception that was pretty much out of its time (he was young, not one of the older generation of swing players having a second bloom). Very strong playing there, and great Dave McKenna, too! The Jacquet is lovely as well, I like his own Mosaic a lot, and while there's plenty of lyrical and bluesy playing there, on this later album he sounds even more relaxed. The Burrell dates are nice, too, but as I said, I still wonder why they didn't include the other date(s? didn't check if it's just one) with Leo Wright. And of course, the Webster/Edison I haven't mentioned before really - that one comes off beautifully (quite contrary the Hawkins/Terry). Webster just sounds great there! I do have very much of a soft spot for late Webster though, owning his Storyville box and the Black Lions, too.

You should try "Preminado" then... migthy fine trio album (I know you don't like trios... but this has Elvin Jones, so you might consider it a quartet if that makes it easier, he he)

Gee, I could have skipped buying "In New York" if this thread would have been upped a few weeks back... but the other Barry Harris/Charles Davis CD I bought, "Reflections" on Red, is pretty nice:

Sorry to read this - my condolences!

Played almost the entire Columbia Small Group set over the past few days. Some pretty nice, some nice and some pretty drab stuff... beats me why they included that tired Hawkins/Terry date but then omitted the Burrell sessions with Leo Wright (maybe they thought Wrights intonation was even worse than Hawkins' tiredness? Not even Terry sounds good on that date!) I think the best of it may be the Ruby Braff session, some great playing there, for sure! This won't be a favourite box here, but it's nowhere as bad as regretting to have it (don't write PMs, I'll not sell...)

actually, i did pray, since i believe atheist prayers count twice... all the best to your daughter and you! Good one... I guess I should pray some then, too... Hope this will all get straightened out without any harm getting done to your daughter, Al!

Yeah, it's an album fetishist thing again, I guess - or maybe just laziness. It's just a bit of a pity to see this - I mean it's cool that 2001 carries these new L+R reissues, and it's even cooler that these do exist in the first place, but it would just be nicer in my opinion if the new CDs would include bonus material if there is some - even more so in such a case, where there's more material from the very same sessions!

here's the info: Jutta Hipp and her German Jazzmen - Cool Dogs and Two Oranges (MGM E3157, L+R LR41006) Emil Mangelsdorff (as) Joki Freund (ts) Jutta Hipp (p) Hans Kresse (b) Karl Sanner (d) Frankfurt, April 13, 1954 Simone Anything Goes Yogi Cool Dogs Frankfurt Bridges Two Oranges Emil Mangelsdorff, Joki Freund out same date Lover Man [not on L+R] Diagram [not on L+R] There's also this one: Jutta Hipp and her Quintet - New Faces-New Sounds from Germany (Blue Note BLP5056, L+R LR41006) Emil Mangelsdorff (as) Joki Freund (ts) Jutta Hipp (p) Hans Kresse (b) Karl Sanner (d) Frankfurt, April 24, 1954 100-3 Blue Skies [not on L+R] 100-4 Mon Petit 100-6 Cleopatra [Chloe-Patra] 100-7 Variations 101-3 Ghost of a Chance (JF out) 101-4 Laura (EM out) 102-2 Don't Worry 'bout Me (EM,JF out) 102-3 What's New ? All titles also on Blue Note (Jap)BN0014, (Jap)DY5806-1 seems to be a bit of a hackjob, the L+R CD, as it omits three titles...