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Mythic Sound (LP/CD MS 6008-1) has a 16:19 version that ends during Bud's second solo. The Fontana (LP 683.903ZL) and Black Lion (CD BLCD-760121) editions had a 5:25 excerpt that starts during that solo and goes on to the end of the tune. The same Pablo disc (PACD-2310-978-2) that has the full "Hot House" also has the only complete version of "Salt Peanuts" from the same date (without Griffin). The date is between Aug. 8 and Aug. 14. There are other Edenville sessions where the dates are known somewhat more exactly... the whole discography is a mess, I'd love to get some complete tapes, even if some of the music might be desultory... but as things are, the three Pablo discs seem to offer some of the best material from the Mythic Sound set (which was far from complete, too... and contained incomplete dates and in some cases it seems incomplete/shortened tracks, too)

Sounds like an alto, but sounds so much like Griffin on tenor that I think it's a tenor indeed. And yes, the speed came to mind, too - the whole sound of these recordings is pretty bad and a sharp/fast pitch might well explain the illusion of an alto. What about the bassist/drummer now? I'm confused... got to play that full "Hot House" now as well (it's on the Pablo CD "Bebop" only).

I'll buy CD (or LP), never bought any MP3 so far... part of the dead breed, I'm afraid.

Can you confirm my belief that Griffin is playing alto on Wee? Will have to listen again to that particular track... but with the discussion here faintly in memory, I did think that Griffin's tenor sounded kind of high at least once while listening. The sources all says it's tenor (including the source that rectifies the perennially wrong Gervais/Hayat information).

Finally looked on AMG - the Swiss Radio Days releases were from the 1960 band with Shorter. I don't see any indication this has been issued officially but as it turns out a FLAC copy was posted almost three years ago on Dime. So no need for a 64 KB download. But if you don't do Dime or missed it, this is an excellent set. The Swiss Radio Days series on the TCB label is legit and is offering some great music! Should be bought, not (illegally) downloaded! http://www.tcb.ch/cms/cms.cgi?prm=Green%20Spine%20%28Swiss%20Radio%20Days%20Jazz%20Series%29&short=1&cfg=1&sort=a&tmpl=style|style|id&list=style|artist|catnr There are a few there that I still need...

On these Edenville sessions, the info on all releases is botched! Jacques Gervais is the bassist, Al "Big" Jones is the drummer (on "Straight No Chaser" w/Griffin, which again ran for 14:54 before the bass solo was edited out - it runs 13:41 on all releases). Guy Hayat is the drummer on the other released cuts (with Gervais still on bass). Just happened to play some of this music yesterday - some great, relaxed playing from Bud, and some amazing Griffin!

Giorgio Gaslini!

Broadway Swings Again / The Jonah Jones Quartet (Capitol T 1641)

Great news, Chuck! I fell in love with Hal when I first heard him on "The Hal Russell Story", one of the most unlikely ECM albums I've heard... got the Bomba CD of "Hal Russell NRG Ensemble" and the Nessa CD of the album with Tyler, will be great to have the third piece, too! Completely missed this thread when you started it! Oh, and thanks a lot for the fascinating post #14 up here! Most interesting! I've heard the Daley RCA LP, would love to get hold of a copy!

Willie "The Lion" Smith - Commodore Classics

uhm... looking again (and approaching the end of the disc), BOTH versions of "Darktown Strutter's Ball" are included!

Willie "The Lion" Smith - The Many Faces of Jazz Vol. 30 (Vogue CMDINT 9736) Some nice music! Solos, duos with drummer Wallace Bishop and a few trio/quartet sides with Buck Clayton, Bishop plus Claude Luter (all of the band sides are here, except for the unissued version of "Darktown Strutter's Ball" - which is mis-printed as "Darktown Stutter's Ball" on the discography on the backcover, but spelt correctly in the tracklisting).

Although a version did exist in the 1960s, I'd argue they were really a band of the 1970s...the first record was 1971, off the top of my head... Now the Blue Notes... which was my next proposition... I see these as kind of a continuum... McGregor, Dudu, Feza, Dyani, Miller, Moholo... it might be very true though that in the 60s they were mostly still struggling and marginalized, while in the 70s they played more often and - probably the two went hand-in-hand - more european (british) musicians joined the ranks... "Very Urgent" and "Up to Earth" are the McGregor albums to consider, "Blue Notes Legacy - Live in South Africa" and some other early stuff by the Blue Notes, then, too... there'd be more from South Africa, of course!

The Blue Notes, too, of course!

How about Chris McGregor, the Brotherhood of Breath?

Take a look at this offer. ... which is one of the growing pile of stinkin' cheapo sets for the crapper ...

Yeah, I use ImgBurn for DVDs and data CDRs and DVDs, too. Very good programme... never looked into burning audio CDRs with it.

Thanks a lot for these links! Will have a closer look!

ok, but why does it come up in the Fru/Bru-thread? me slow, me dumb, me no get it....

@Allen: what Morton CD? Jelly Roll with Fru?

Nero drove me crazy... Burrrn is my software of choice, too. Weird that it won't work with Windows 7 but ImgBurn will - I think they're coming from the same guys... might be a combination of drives, installation, setups, whatever. My internal drive (Windows Vista) won't work with Burrrn either but my external burner never failed me.

I strongly echo the feelings expressed above about the years 1963-65, or maybe rather 1962-66 or even '67 pr '68. "Demon's Dance" is growing here! And "Let Freedom Ring" should be included, too! So it's BN all the way... of course the band with Draper and Webster Young is wonderful, too - but much of the Prestige music sounds somewhat rough and unfinished to me. Rough Jackie remained, his intense delivery was there all the time... but the music on those albums with Tolliver, Walter Davis, Hutcherson, Moncur... those are my favorites.

Got to play me some Kenton (and Christy) again soon... me dig that stuff! Thanks for all the music and r.i.p. Mr. Rugolo.

Looks like the collaboration with Prince and a compilation of already-released guest shots/cameos Miles did on various albums of the time. Hm, that's definitely not worth 50$... but I strongly assume the price will come down quite some. These 5CD (or 4CD) sets seem to go rather for 25-30€ lately. Packaging is standard, booklet probably none too great, so...

jpc is usually *very* reliable. And very easy to deal with if there are any issues. Can't guarantee for 100% fulfillment of orders though, haven't ordered anything too special/rare/japanese/expensive there.