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r.i.p. Leon Spencer

I'm spinning it again... it has a nice after hours, bluesy feel to it. Very lose. And Al Levitt's rather special, too... 'course he was on half of Wilen's debut, "Tilt", already... would have enjoyed some more room for Gourley, too - a bit less "Night in Tunisia"-riffin', but hey, it's good fun! I can see this one slowly growing on me!

Also style wins over substance... or as Mr. Sangrey put it: their presentation suggests much more substance than there really is. Not that I know this very release, but I've seen some of them (and bought a couple, too... the Quincy and Mingus Birdland ones were just too good to pass - the Quincy makes a big mess of the liners, though, not quoting and unquoting properly). Anyway, the individual Candid discs seem to be in print, so there's no need for this crappy set.

Bumping this thread up... just gave the recent Impulse 2-on-1 twofer a first spin and enjoyed it! Enjoyed reading this thread, too - thanks for the ride, guys! Got to dig out the Kahn book and read the pages on the album again.

Got my disc today, gave it a first spin - nice one. Nothing too big though... it's a bit on the short side (36 or so minutes) and sounds like a lose jam over large parts. But hey, more Barney is a good thing!

Happy Birthday, Roy Haynes! Just found this bit from an interview published a year ago:

Yeah, and there's no such thing as a right to be able to listen to all of it, all the time. Now whether that's a good thing or not is an entirely different question - but not one that Werner Uehlinger has to find an answer to. Certainly I'd be more than happy to see more of the older titles in print, but then how much demand is there, really? We know of plenty of things with small runs that do remain in print for years (that's true for many hat titles as well), so it really seems keeping the backlist in print is hardly feasible for a small label such as hat. Also while I am romantic enough to dig the idea of handing over tapes and rights to the artists, that would be suicidal. Remember, there's market and there's some rules (again: whether that's a good thing... etc), and if you want to survive, you have to play along mostly. Uehlinger seems to be fairly successful doing just that, at least in my book. One more thing: I know many have little to no interest in recent recordings by hat - they just want all the Braxton, Taylor, Lacy et. al. in print all the time... that's really too bad, as there's plenty of good stuff that Uehlinger puts out! Furthermore, he still wants to focus more on releasing new music, instead of turning hat into mainly a reissue label. That's his call, after all. We can rant about it, we can be disappointed, we can ask questions (serious and silly ones) - but it's his label after all. Talk about responsability and bringing stuff back to the public, keeping it accessible etc... those are important and difficult questions, to which I have no answers, and it seems no one has. Where are the majors there? What are they doing to keep the cultural legacy alive? Nothing. And they do swim in money (well, at least they did for some four or five decades). I guess one ought to be a bit more thoughtful in demanding these things from small record labels, that - again - see it as their goal to document current musical tendencies and developments, rather than turning into a museum of their own past.

Crap. Werner and Pia seperated, he went on alone with Hat, her name disappeared. End of story. Moms seems to be on quite a wrong track here, sorry.

The guy told me on the phone that they have a whole pile of the box there... so it's not gone yet. I was afraid it was... it's not too commonly found on the internets. Also, to me it obviously feels a bit cheaper :-)

Rang up the shop and they will send replacement discs... they got a whole stack of the box, it seems. It's not exactly cheap there, but shipping within Switzerland's free and it was the best offer I could find, after all: http://www.phono-schop.ch/product_info.php/info/p4332_Osterwald-Hazy.html

Very much in the same boat... the Dixon and Hemphill CDs are amazing, and more of the same will be most welcome! Fischer is someone into whose music I've been meaning to dig deeper for some time anyway (and Daley is still a most amazing perspective, even though I've known about it for a little while now!). The Carmell Jones sounds like a good idea to me as well - would love to hear it!

sip yo hand? why, do dey love singles?

I would love to catch Sonny again, but certainly not with a douchebag such as Sting... always thought he was a lousy bassist and wished he'd gotten a better bass player on his early albums (and lost interest alltogether somewhen late in the 90s).

Listening to the 4CD set now... it's very nice, but I'm totally out of luck. While playing mostly works, this seems to be a case of CDs that have been damaged by way of some sort of chemical process... the box was still sealed, but the CDs really look horrible, with spots and areas that look scratched. Some tracks won't play (and I've not reached the end of disc 3 yet, which looks worst) and only one of the discs would copy in EAC without any errors. Guess I'll have to ring up the shop where I bought it and ask what to do (I've bought it w/invoice, so I've not yet paid anything for it, luckily). But the package, book and all, is splendid, and I do enjoy the music a lot! Some great tenor playing from Dennis Armitage (never heard of him before), lots of fine trumpet from Hazy (he was one of the first in Switzerland to grasp bebop, as far as I know), and plenty of good Höllerhagen... and now I've just reached the tracks were Werner Dies steps in for Höllerhagen, and he delivers some fine alto solos right away, too!

Happy Birthday, Paul! :party:

just sent an email, too!

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That's my preferred terminology. (In case anyone always wanted to know...) Stain Doll? That's when you pull out of the Warm Valley just in time? As for the marketing discussion... that kind of thinking seems to be a major reason why so many things are in such a rotten state these days... and why many non-thinking folks don't even seem to take notice of that. And I did finally cave in and order the box... albeit having the Mosaic as well as LP and CD of "Stepping Stones".

It's there indeed (#1 on side 4, "Untitled Lewis Original", clocking in - the label says - at 3:43)

I was kind of underwhelmed, too... and "Round Midnight" isn't even the best tune.

sounds good enough for me!

He's often too elegant for my likings... but some of the Jazz in Paris discs should be around cheaply and the Cole Porter one is fine!

No Facebook here, either... sounds kind of clear to me that the FB crowd would mostly endorse DLs, but the others aren't heard there... if it comes out on CD, I won't hesitate! Biggest and baddest possible sounds great to me! (Where's that box with all the 1964 European tour concerts, anyway?!) What about the actual "My Favorite Quintet"? One of the most elusive Mingus albums, for sure... would it be included as well? And the well-known part of the Town Hall concert, too? Would be kind of pointless to not include the entire recordings in a box!

I've got three of the hats and just ordered the impressive Adkins disc from hat (w/Lossing), too. Still need the Blaser though... Lossing sounds like a pretty interesting guy to me, but I got to do some close listening...

feghing brilliant, thanks! In said interview they mention some 10 step process of improv Lee came with, anyone know anything about this? Probably related to Mingus' cat toilet training program (which has but four steps though)