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Remember even according to the new EU regulations anything recorded and first released prior to late 1961 remains in the P.D. in Europe and even by U.S. standards anything recorded prior to early 1943 (currently) is P.D. in the U.S. (70 years!). And even a 1943 cutoff date covers quite a lot of those "Chronogical" platters. In short, most of the swing era definitely has gone P.D. by now. I know ... I was just having a joke on forum rule # something (which I do understand, but it continues to lead to absurd situations).

(it's bootlegs, so no links please)

Yeah, I know you're new ... forgot about the disgusting Hitler stuff, but I generally prefer to see older threads revived rather than having multiple threads on the same topic. I do use this site as kind of an archive every now and so often, and the more threads you have on one topic, the more difficult it gets to locate any information. But anyway, it's no biggie

Sorry, but I kind of don't get the point why this thread goes on when there's another one with lots of discussion. Might just be me though ...

It's a nice one. They could have added another album (Cohn's "Mr. Music", but then it has only Newman and not Green). While there's some sameness, there's plenty of nice stuff going on, mainly by Cohn and Newman of course, but trombonists Frank Rehak and Urbie Green have their spots, too, and Henry Coker (on the Green album only, alas) made my head turn several times ... also Gene Quill on Cohn's "Jazz Workshop" album, which closes the set (and I think is it's highlight). Not essential stuff by any stretch, not even very good all the way through - but enjoyable, Basie-inspired, swinging small group jazz.

Yes indeed!

Yes, I enjoy some of it very much. I think Roulette Basie is overall a bit more to my liking, but the early sessions with Quinichette are mighty enjoyable and the band with Gus Johnson might have been the best edition of the NT band ever ... so, yes indeed! But the eight CDs do have some sameness and I'd probablly not want to listen to it all in one day.

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disc one, but I guess I'll just go right through it all!

I'm playing my Cohn/Newman/Green right now ... also had to get the Pendulum on top of that, was good on the rest. The Ellington single is nice, but I still wouldn't want to miss the expanded edition of the actual concert as a companion! Oh, and as usual I even posted in the that announced to the world that the Basie Verve box was running low, so everything's okay

Okay, the pre-order price of € 40.- includes shipping in Europe and is good until the end of January only! Will get me one before then! For those reading German, there's also this book that's just been published: there's a preview on amazon - link

I am still trying to find that CD for an acceptable price. Does it even exist? Sorry I couldn't help back then ... all those shops are now closed But yes, it does exist!

what a great photo! too bad McGriff is cut off!

Oh, I didn't even notice that! But I think these "discothèque idéale" boxes are of French origin generally and it's not even on amazon.fr yet .... the site with most information is amazon.de and it has a release date of February 8, 2013: http://www.amazon.de/Vogue-Jazz-20-Albums-Originaux/dp/B0087PI57K

Well, it's not out yet, so it might indeed be rather troublesome to already find it I'll have to wait and see and hear about packing first ... only the Bechet material I don't have. Can't quite figure out which sessions might be contained, but I've got a pair of LPs of French material and the Jazz in Paris disc and I guess that's quite enough of French Bechet for me. Also have the great album with Solal of course ... but it seems that one's not among those mentioned.

I guess this one deserves it's own thread! Detailed contents can be found here: http://www.discogs.com/Various-Long-Story-Short/release/4170007 Trost is offering a subscription price of 40€ through February (not sure if "shipping included" applies to all orders, just sent them a mail myself, inquiring about details), later the set will be 45€ plus shipping. http://www.trost.at/news/

That has happened before several times ... I guess they stumble over another few dozen copies of a box they assume had sold out and just put it back up for a moment. I stroke lucky with the Herman Capitol box that way. Though I really wish the Art Hodes and the Commodores and the studio Roulette Basie would turn up again

Has the Basie Verve (#223) been on the "last chance" list for longtime? Hadn't noticed (or already forgotten again since I've long owned it). Also right now the Tolliver and Onzy Matthews Selects show up on both lists. Got my Newman/Cohn/Green and Pendulum Selects last week, so I'm safe for the moment.

Thanks! But this makes me scratch my head ... they did, after all, add some things not part of the previous series (Django and Bechet at least), and some discs - provided the list above is complete, which I guess it's not - will be *very* short, the Konitz one for instance, what, 20 minutes? I'm sure it contains more, if not all of the previous "Saxophone Collection", making it a 3-albums-disc and hence helping them arrive at 35 ... but then the Haynes/Jones combines two sessions previously on the 54 Sessions and one of the Piano Collection discs, while the Thomas contains another of those from the 54 Sessions, and would hence again be very short if it does not contain anything else. Anyway, there's probably no need for me to get it, I think I've got all the music and those black digipacks usually display the original album art, too, although in rather small reproductions usually.

coming up, no details yet, but I assume it's made up of stuff that was out before (thrown together with little investment, or else they couldn't do it for that price): will be interested to hear details about the art (and if there's a good booklet), never got one of those boxes yet, just some single discs that were sold (and dirt-cheap) separately here ... amazon links: http://www.amazon.fr...x/dp/B0087PI57K http://www.amazon.com/Vogue-Jazz-20-Albums-Originaux/dp/B0087PI57K http://www.amazon.co...x/dp/B0087PI57K http://www.amazon.it...x/dp/B0087PI57K http://www.amazon.de...x/dp/B0087PI57K the last one has a price, which is 42€ - quite a bargain if it's indeed 35 discs ... if it's indeed original albums, they must re-pack most of the black "Original Vogue Masters" discs, I guess ...

Ha, I'm not alone thinking this, then! Here's a nice little - I remember some pretty fun threads and discussions

No, I think he was worst than most in being a heavy pusher -- and someone who tried to and often did destroy the careers of those who blew the whistle on him. That puts him in a special category well beyond his peers. Yes, that's exactly my impression. He's not the only one by far, of course, and he's not the only asshole either, but he's the worst of the bunch. Let's hope brownie's right. One clear sign seems that speed has come down quite a bit on the 2012 tour if I remember right. I don't follow cycling closely at all, but I used to cycle professionally for several years in my (pre-)teens and I still somehow feel connected a little bit.

http://grammarist.com/usage/lead-lede/ Thanks Larry, appreciated! This thread is the very first time I noticed this word.

Yep. At least as far as Jazz Unlimited goes, I was always under the assumption it was doing PD/boot releases. Their "Miscellaneous Miles" disc was such a shady affair (but contains some mighty good stuff, needless to say!) - it's now part of a Storyville 2CD set with the Zurich set. It's a two-sided thing for me ... one the one hand, why shouldn't a fine label such as Storyville not make use of PD material (selling it in the US is different thing!), on the other hand it kind of leaves me with a crying eye if they don't do it right ... but anyway, their ongoing re-packing activities don't throw the best of lights at them (even though I personally enjoy plenty of those newer packages, having missed out on much of their original release activitie).

It's truly pathetic, isn't it? I wonder if cycling will ever really get over all this sh*t. I guess that won't happen if the officials in the know will remain unbothered. What totally adds to the disgust I feel about Armstrong is how he crushed his critics. And those stories of sending text messages with "sorry" in it ... what an asshole!