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How much music is there on the Powell disc? Can anybody provide timings? These ARE pricy ... and I think I won't get the Dolphy. I'd be all for a 2CD set of the entire sessions though, but this one seems to be a bit expensive for a few alternates and not that much music (I know there's one new tune there, too, but 40$ for one tune, by all my love for Dolphy ...)

Harpsichords, hammered dulcimers and squeeze boxes and a mistle toe? May I get the links, please, even if I can't promise adding much to the discussion? I'll try though! Oh, I see you planned me in already ... kewl! I've not been active in BFTs lately, too many new discs around to check out, and too little time ... but then has that ever been different since that doomed day when I finally signed up to the ol' BNBB? I guess some day I'll send you all some cheques

well, Mosaic sent me a big box, too ... but that one's less unexpected, I guess

Disc three now ... love this group! Nothing against Horn and Pisano, but as far as the cello quintet goes, nothing beats the original line-up, Collette is such a wonderful musician, and the chemistry is perfect. Maybe the Horn/Pisano line-up just didn't get to be recorded in a representative way, I don't know ... but the stuff seems - by comparison - too short, too organized.

Anyone has any idea what's going on with these? I've probably received ten re-scheduled delivery dates ... and funny enough I already DID get the Ellington disc (the prev. unissued track is rough around the edges but nice), that by now again is only to be released in late January: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00E4V08KS/

definitely not for me ... though I'm sure there'd be some good music to discover there

Sad news indeed, but as with others I rarely order from the US anymore nowadays.

Would have been all over this set some three or four years ago ... got all the albums on single discs (including "Showtime", btw), so there's no need. But yes, the early albums are wonderful indeed and most of the later ones have some fine stuff, too. My top favorite probably is "Chicken Skin Music".

Yeah, I'd be all for a good reissue of the trio date ... too bad they didn't include it in the Mosaic!

Thanks indeed, Larry - very interesting points! And yes, that last paragraph ... dare I say that like that old recordings regain some kind of aura? I mean honestly, for me, music was always 95% solitary listening ... and after all there are moments were discovering something that was preserved and has been saved over from another era is turning into a one-time, life-changing experience ... or a crazy mind-fuck turning things you thought you knew upside down. Of course that can happen in concerts, too, the intensity level of the live experience is hard to beat ... but not necessarily an advantage as far as being in the right mood (is that a romantic notion? or just a commodity?) and ready to "receive".

Discs one and two ... and if I get insomnia, disc three, too ... one of my first four or five Mosaics and I dearly love the original quintet sides with Collette, Hall, Katz and Smith ... what a great band! And how great to hear all the live material!

damn - r.i.p. http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2013/11/26/rip-chico-hamilton/ http://tedpanken.wordpress.com/2013/11/26/r-i-p-chico-hamilton-september-20-1921-november-25-2013-two-wkcr-interviews-and-a-downbeat-blindfold-test/

Yeah, I know ... but I still hate such moronic and gratuitous insinuations - but then they might be mannerisms, who knows ... I promise not to do no more effin' (oops) swearin' for a minute now

So don't go worrying about your hunches of Black Anti semitism being defended here. Maybe explore why you can't see the execrable reverse racism arguments of the aforementioned writers/musicians -whose whole musical identities were/are based on Black Music history- for what it truly is. Gimme a break, willya? I'm not willing to be accused of racism by you. If you find it in my posts, in my language, fine, go point it out - if not, shut the fuck up now and take your crusade elsewhere. I'm sure your line of reasoning isn't plain wrong, I'm sure what you're pointing out is actually taking place - but I'm not the one to attack here. So you'll speak up when it's supposedly Black Anti-semitism rearing it's head. But quietly let it all be business as usual when it's a more insidious kind. No, that's my point: I fucking don't and would appreciate if you'd stop right there and now of insinuating such things. Thank you. I'm not the board police that has to keep freedom of speechers going into racist debates from stopping to do so, I by far don't read all that is going on (and frequently miss the "hot* discussions in the "in print" corner). Just because there's no statement of mine anywhere does not allow the conclusion that I agree.

Ralph Towner or Bill Connors on ECM ... Joe Pass ... those all might not be to everybody's liking. One that I enjoyed a lot (got it last year, a few months before his premature death):

So don't go worrying about your hunches of Black Anti semitism being defended here. Maybe explore why you can't see the execrable reverse racism arguments of the aforementioned writers/musicians -whose whole musical identities were/are based on Black Music history- for what it truly is. Gimme a break, willya? I'm not willing to be accused of racism by you. If you find it in my posts, in my language, fine, go point it out - if not, shut the fuck up now and take your crusade elsewhere. I'm sure your line of reasoning isn't plain wrong, I'm sure what you're pointing out is actually taking place - but I'm not the one to attack here.

Thanks Allen, no problem about the shipping - I might combine with one or both of the books, will get in touch off list then.

I've by now played almost every disc from this boy and enjoyed it a lot!

Thanks for the update, Allen. Very much enjoy Rudd's playing, wherever he pops up.

Can a drum drum machine robot rush time? And does a robot singer need auto tune?

Okay, fine - and thanks. I just had hunches of "black anti-semitism" being defended here as a valid expression of opinion - and that is indeed a thing to worry about in my book ... maybe I mis-read some posts, but then that may again be the usual "freedom of speech" gap between americans and europeans.

Not sure why my posts had to go since I was trying to express a sincere concern about this very discussion.

I discussed it all in detail with David Wild before posting here - my copy misses a couple of dozen (prob. glossy) "inserted" (un-numbered) photo pages. That's just fact. And I hate to discover this so late in the game ... waiting for Routledge to answer my inquiry now. And no, definitely no hardcover needed I'd say, though it helps keeping the book in good shape (it's about 2 inches thick and comes in A4 format, close to US letter format - the US edition might be letter, what do I know ... but the yurpeen one should have them photos, too).

Definitely want it, but only in a month, I'm afraid ...

As for drummers rushing ... Monk used Art Taylor for a while, too